Re: RMS on OpenMotif

2000-08-22 Thread Matthew C. Weigel
On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, David Johnson wrote: will not be defined by the Windows98 user, but by the typical user of Unix (since that is the platform for Motif), who would have a radically different perception of what an OS is. If you're going to get into legal terms, then no, Unix does not have

Re: RMS on OpenMotif

2000-08-21 Thread Matthew C. Weigel
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, John Cowan wrote: Ironically, that restriction excludes nearly all the commercial GNU/Linux distributions. They typically include some non-free software--an unfortunate policy--and hardly any of them fits the criterion specified in the Motif

Re: RMS on OpenMotif

2000-08-21 Thread Richard Stallman
Ironically, that restriction excludes nearly all the commercial GNU/Linux distributions. They typically include some non-free software--an unfortunate policy--and hardly any of them fits the criterion specified in the Motif license. The OpenMotif

Re: RMS on OpenMotif

2000-08-21 Thread David Johnson
On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, you wrote: For terms not defined in the license (such as "operating system"), it would be easy for whoever brought the lawsuit to argue that using the term according to precedent -- i.e., as in the Microsoft vs. US case, which would be everything on the CD from the

RMS on OpenMotif

2000-08-20 Thread John Cowan
rtheless, there are probably in practice no kernels which conform to this definition but not to the OSD. Someone might want to make a snapshot of the FAQ as it currently stands, in case it becomes necessary in a court test which hinges on the interpretation of the license. OpenMotif license: http://

Re: RMS on OpenMotif

2000-08-20 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, John Cowan wrote: RMS writes (copied here under a claim of fair use): Here are some of the problems of the Motif license: It claims that you accept the license merely by "using" Motif. Only a shrink-wrap license or something similar can do that, and