Re: click, click, boom

2001-09-28 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
I agree with Matt that almost above all the open source community should value the spirit of openness. Having said that, I think that to the extent that OSI can foster an environment where the open source community continues to rise to the next level of extending the benefits of open source

Re: click, click, boom

2001-09-26 Thread Greg London
Rick Moen wrote: begin Greg London quotation: Look, nobody's going to force-feed common sense to people who don't want to read the OSD in the spirit intended. One has to find one's own. If someone puts out a bunch of source code under the MIT license, and the distro is OSI certifiable,

Re: click, click, boom

2001-09-26 Thread Rick Moen
begin Greg London quotation: If someone puts out a bunch of source code under the MIT license, and the distro is OSI certifiable, there is nothing to prevent someone else from redistributing it in binary form only. Their only penalty is that they lose OSI certification. _Licences_ are

Re: click, click, boom

2001-09-26 Thread Matthew C. Weigel
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Rick Moen wrote: The DFSG (and thus the OSD) were indeed abstracted out from several popular licences (if I remember accounts by Bruce P.). As adopted by I'd like to restate this. Prior to the formation of the OSI, the free software community was an open, friendly place

Re: click, click, boom

2001-09-26 Thread Greg London
Rick Moen wrote: begin Greg London quotation: If someone puts out a bunch of source code under the MIT license, and the distro is OSI certifiable, there is nothing to prevent someone else from redistributing it in binary form only. Their only penalty is that they lose OSI

Re: click, click, boom

2001-09-26 Thread M. Drew Streib
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 10:55:36AM -0400, Greg London wrote: With 26 licenses, some of them extremely long, most people will not read all of them,nor understand the implications of them. I skipped over to the OSD, read that, and assumed that I could pick any approved license, and the OSD

Re: click, click, boom

2001-09-26 Thread Rick Moen
begin Greg London quotation: _Licences_ are OSD-certified. Software is open-source or not, in accordance with its nature (including but not limited to licensing). http://www.opensource.org/docs/certification_mark.html The OSI Certified mark applies to software, not to licenses. Was

click, click, boom

2001-09-25 Thread Greg London
Ah, several items just fell into place. 1) The OSD and the OSI approved licenses (AL) are totally independent. 2) Some of the OSI AL's also happen to meet the OSD definition, and some do not. But OSI does not determine this. 3) OSI approved it's licenses not because of how they measured

Re: click, click, boom

2001-09-25 Thread M. Drew Streib
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 09:03:18PM -0400, Greg London wrote: 6) You can use an OSI approved license and not be OSI certified. See, this clears up a -whole- lot of confusion. I thought the OSD was somehow related to the approved OSI licenses. Instead, OSI approved its first four licenses

Re: click, click, boom

2001-09-25 Thread Rick Moen
begin Greg London quotation: Ah, several items just fell into place. Yes, but they didn't fit. Look, nobody's going to force-feed common sense to people who don't want to read the OSD in the spirit intended. One has to find one's own. The DFSG (and thus the OSD) were indeed abstracted out

Re: click, click, boom

2001-09-25 Thread Russell Nelson
Greg London writes: 1) The OSD and the OSI approved licenses (AL) are totally independent. Nope. You are confused. Have you figured out where yet? -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | It's a crime, not an act 521