Re: The Simple Permissive License, v0.1

2002-02-09 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
Tina Gasperson wrote: Everyone is permitted to use, modify, and redistribute this software, provided the above copyright notice and this permission notice are included with all copies, modifications, and redistributions. I think you need a warranty disclaimer. Here is the shortest free

Re: The Simple Permissive License, v0.1

2002-02-09 Thread Mahesh T Pai
- begin text of The Simple Permissive License v0.1 - Copyright (c) [YEAR] [AUTHOR NAME] Permission is hereby granted to any person to use this software in any way, including to modify it and redistribute it, subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this

License for web application

2002-02-09 Thread Emiliano
Hi all, I'm looking for an appropriate license for my web application. Basically, I like the GPL, but since it's a web application a competitor could easily take my code, modify the lot, and offer it as a service by deploying it on his own server. Since his clients would only see the generated

RE: The Simple Permissive License, v0.1

2002-02-09 Thread Mikko Valimaki
Hello, I think your simple versions can be simplified even further. What about this: (C) [year] [author] Copying, distribution and modification of this software is allowed. No warranty: use at your own risk. You don't need to say anything about things that are default in copyright law. It

Re: The Simple Permissive License, v0.1

2002-02-09 Thread Randy Kramer
Mikko Valimaki wrote: You don't need to say anything about things that are default in copyright law. It is default that author's 'moral rights' including the copyright notice may not be removed unless the work is substantially modified. So, if the work is substantially modified, the

Re: Advertising Clauses in Licenses

2002-02-09 Thread Russell Nelson
Bruce Perens writes: I think there needs to be language added to the OSD, protecting the user and developer from odd burdens that the licensor wishes to impose upon them. Are you volunteering to write this language yourself, or volunteering someone else? -- -russ nelson

Re: All these licenses and business models

2002-02-09 Thread Russell Nelson
John Cowan writes: Also they sell mice, which must surely be an insignificant part of their revenue, but why would they do it if it didn't make money for them? Actually, Microsoft's hardware division is quite profitable. The last figure that I heard was that it provided one third of the

Re: License for web application

2002-02-09 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
What I want to accomplish is that if someone deploys a changed version of my application he'd be required to publish those changes (or at least send them to me and license me to use them in my free version), and that the visitors of the generated pages would have a way to identify the

Re: The Simple Permissive License, v0.1

2002-02-09 Thread John Cowan
Mikko Valimaki scripsit: You don't need to say anything about things that are default in copyright law. It is default that author's 'moral rights' including the copyright notice may not be removed unless the work is substantially modified. The U.S., complying grudgingly with the terms of

Re: Advertising Clauses in Licenses

2002-02-09 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bruce Perens writes: I think there needs to be language added to the OSD, protecting the user and developer from odd burdens that the licensor wishes to impose upon them. Russ Nelson: Are you volunteering to write this language yourself, or

Re: The Simple Permissive License, v0.1

2002-02-09 Thread David Johnson
On Saturday 09 February 2002 10:33 am, Randy Kramer wrote: So, if the work is substantially modified, the copyright notice can be removed? In that case I think I'd want something to keep my name on it as the original author, despite substantial modification -- maybe with a pointer to where

Re: License for web application

2002-02-09 Thread David Johnson
On Saturday 09 February 2002 03:34 am, Emiliano wrote: What I want to accomplish is that if someone deploys a changed version of my application he'd be required to publish those changes (or at least send them to me and license me to use them in my free version), and that the visitors of the

Re: Advertising Clauses in Licenses

2002-02-09 Thread Bruce Perens
Someone please tell Russ his qmail is rejecting me. Bruce -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: APSL and Microsoft Broad Source License

2002-02-09 Thread David Johnson
On Saturday 09 February 2002 01:26 pm, Christian Gross wrote: Can someone please tell me what the difference is and why the APSL is considered Open Source and why the Microsoft License is not? The APSL allows you to use the software for commercial use, provide you submit any modifications

Re: APSL and Microsoft Broad Source License

2002-02-09 Thread Christian Gross
Please excuse my ignorance again... But here is the paragraph from the APSL 2.1 You may use, reproduce, display, perform, modify and distribute Original Code, with or without Modifications, solely for Your internal research and development and/or Personal Use, provided that in each instance:

Re: APSL and Microsoft Broad Source License

2002-02-09 Thread Christian Gross
(Sorry my email cut me off by accident) Please excuse my ignorance again... But here is the paragraph from the APSL 2.1 You may use, reproduce, display, perform, modify and distribute Original Code, with or without Modifications, solely for Your internal research and development and/or

Re: Advertising Clauses in Licenses

2002-02-09 Thread Randy Kramer
Bruce, Ok, presumably this will do it. Randy Kramer Bruce Perens wrote: Someone please tell Russ his qmail is rejecting me. Bruce -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3 -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: APSL and Microsoft Broad Source License

2002-02-09 Thread Christian Gross
At 15:29 09/02/2002 -0800, David Johnson wrote: On Saturday 09 February 2002 02:48 pm, Christian Gross wrote: 2.1 You may use, reproduce, display, perform, modify and distribute Original Code, with or without Modifications, solely for Your internal research and development and/or Personal

Re: APSL and Microsoft Broad Source License

2002-02-09 Thread David Johnson
On Saturday 09 February 2002 03:32 pm, Christian Gross wrote: I saw that too and I thought hey no problem. But then 2.2.a explicitly states: (a) You must satisfy all the conditions of Section 2.1 with respect to the Source Code of the Covered Code; Which would say, sure you can deploy

Re: The Simple Permissive License, v0.1

2002-02-09 Thread Justin Chen-Wells
I'm not sure you guys really want to chop out all the stuff about implied warranties and so forth. I know it makes the license long and that's contrary to what yo'ure trying to do, but without explicitly disclaiming the implied warranties of fitness to purpose and merchantability, you are