Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-28 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Sean Chittenden said on Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 08:07:51PM -0700,: I think if I were to remove the following from the clause, (ex: the GNU Public License, hereafter known as the GPL), the discussion wouldn't have been nearly as involved. *sigh* On the contrary, the words in

Re: Termination for Patent Action

2003-09-28 Thread 'Arnoud Engelfriet'
Lawrence E. Rosen wrote: Arnoud Engelfriet responded: Actually it goes much further. If you sue any author of any AFL- licensed software for patent infringement, you lose all rights to *all* AFL-licensed software, as well as all rights to all other software with that same poison pill

Re: Creating Open Source Software for the Insurance Industry

2003-09-28 Thread Russell Nelson
This sounds like a question for the Free Software Business mailing list, rather than the open source initiative license approval committee. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the submission address; [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the subscription address. -russ James McGovern writes: My employer has asked me to

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-28 Thread Russell Nelson
Sean Chittenden writes: Correct, but the BSD license does not ensure that all software developed will be available under terms friendly for businesses, which goes back to the point of me writing the OSSAL. Neither does the OSSAL. Anybody can make changes to OSSAL-licensed code and not

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-28 Thread Russell Nelson
Mike Wattier writes: The OSI is a political organization yeah.. and IMHO this is the very reason that many who want to support the Open Source community, will not do so. It is slowly becoming a cheerleading section for the GPL. Not really. The GPL is legally troubled. It attempts

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-28 Thread Russell Nelson
Brian Behlendorf writes: It's not flame bait. Show me an open source license that specifies that each user pay the copyright holder for use. You could have a license which specifies that each user have to pay the copyright holder when they get the software from the copyright holder. It

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-28 Thread John Cowan
David Presotto scripsit: As an aside, it might have been less inflamatory if the license has said ``if source of the program and any derivatives is distributed under an inheritive license (e.g. GPL), it must ALSO be distributed under this license.'' Then Sean would always have access to

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-28 Thread Russell Nelson
Sean Chittenden writes: Because I believe that if I provide, as an example, a programming language and someone writes a module for that language, the least that the module author can do is release the module under business friendly terms. If someone writes a module for my lang but

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-28 Thread Russell Nelson
Sean Chittenden writes: What I'm trying to understand is why you say that incorporating BSD code in a proprietary product is a good thing and simulataneously say that incorporating BSD code in a GPL product is a bad thing. Changes made to the BSD code by the authors of the

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-28 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
Sean Chittenden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Changes made to the BSD code by the authors of the GPL product are changes that are available only under the GPL. Yes, and changes made to the BSD code by the authors of a proprietary product are changes that are only available to the authors