RE: Effect of the MySQL FLOSS License Exception?

2004-06-17 Thread Lawrence Rosen
Glen Low wrote: [Humor aside, if the code I'm linking with MySQL is on their approved FLOSS list, what functionally is the difference between MySQL being LGPL and it being GPL + FLOSS Exception?] Probably no difference at all. This entire matter has been blown way out of proportion because of

Re: Effect of the MySQL FLOSS License Exception?

2004-06-17 Thread Martin Konold
Am Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2004 06:43 schrieben Sie: Hi, IIRC it's only the client-side code which has the FLOSS exception. The actual database engine is purely GPL. The position of MySQL AB is different. They say to their customers that creating an application which uses MySQL via their API

Re: Effect of the MySQL FLOSS License Exception?

2004-06-17 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Lawrence Rosen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): This entire matter has been blown way out of proportion because of the insistence of some that the reciprocity conditions of the GPL or LGPL reach to something more than derivative works. But if you read the actual terms of both licenses carefully

Re: Effect of the MySQL FLOSS License Exception?

2004-06-17 Thread Zak Greant
Greetings All, It is good to see some additional discussion about this, even if it is a bit belated. ;) In way of a brief update, the exception is currently being reviewed by our lawyers and then should be going through to our CEO for approval. If there is feedback that we can incorporate

Re: Effect of the MySQL FLOSS License Exception?

2004-06-17 Thread Zak Greant
On Jun 16, 2004, at 22:43, John Cowan wrote: No Spam scripsit: Gill decides to make all of Abcess BSD licensed and incorporates MySQL code in it. The Abcess code is reasonably independent from the MySQL code but they are definitely intermingled, linked together in an executable. He merrily

Re: Effect of the MySQL FLOSS License Exception?

2004-06-17 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Zak Greant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): This is close to correct. The FLOSS licensing for the MySQL clients was the LGPL, while the server was GPL'd. Both were available under proprietary terms as well. I should have remembered that, and plead fatigue. Good point. I think that everyone

Re: Effect of the MySQL FLOSS License Exception?

2004-06-17 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Zak Greant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Actually, v0.2 of the exception will apply to both client and server. My personal opinion is that, given the multifarious ways for a sufficiently motivated large organization to crush us like the uppity bugs that we are, we should not lose too much

Re: Effect of the MySQL FLOSS License Exception?

2004-06-17 Thread Zak Greant
Greetings Larry and All, On Jun 16, 2004, at 23:56, Lawrence Rosen wrote: Glen Low wrote: [Humor aside, if the code I'm linking with MySQL is on their approved FLOSS list, what functionally is the difference between MySQL being LGPL and it being GPL + FLOSS Exception?] Probably no difference at

Re: Effect of the MySQL FLOSS License Exception?

2004-06-17 Thread Alex Rousskov
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Zak Greant wrote: The idea of being able to draw a clear line between derivative and collective works based on treating the Program as a black box with hooks for connectivity makes me very uncomfortable. Why does it make you very uncomfortable? It is generally a

RE: Effect of the MySQL FLOSS License Exception?

2004-06-17 Thread Lawrence Rosen
Zak Greant wrote: The idea of being able to draw a clear line between derivative and collective works based on treating the Program as a black box with hooks for connectivity makes me very uncomfortable. It is generally a relatively trivial task to create a GPL-licensed wrapper that allows

Re: Effect of the MySQL FLOSS License Exception?

2004-06-17 Thread nospam+pixelglow . com
All, esp. Zak: I have found much to admire in MySQL, Trolltech and Sleepycat's dual licensing schemes, in particular I believe it fuels innovation rather than maintenance, while still admirably supporting open sharing. But that's just my opinion. Obviously I'm contemplating using something