[License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread Rudy Lippan
Hello, I'm working on a project and have been struggling with finding a license for it. I currently have a very restrictive one (courtesy of my lawyer) but am aware that it very much would limit the interest in further development from the community. The bulk of the project is in place, and

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread David Woolley
Rudy Lippan wrote: So what I would like to do is tie the license of the software to the user of the software respecting the licenses of the community-distributed components they use, whether or not the individual component is eligible for copyright protection. You can't have a licence unless

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread Tom Callaway
On 10/06/2011 12:50 PM, Rudy Lippan wrote: There will also be a community aspect where individuals will develop and contribute components, just like every other open source project However, some of the contributed components may not be eligible for copyright protections. A component

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread John Cowan
Rudy Lippan scripsit: So what I would like to do is tie the license of the software to the user of the software respecting the licenses of the community-distributed components they use, whether or not the individual component is eligible for copyright protection. I would just ignore the

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread Rudy Lippan
Rudy Lippan wrote: So what I would like to do is tie the license of the software to the user of the software respecting the licenses of the community-distributed components they use, whether or not the individual component is eligible for copyright protection. You can't have a

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread John Cowan
Rudy Lippan scripsit: There may not be intellectual property in the components; however, there is work involved in their creation. That doesn't matter to the law. It takes a lot of work to alphabetize a list of millions of names, but the result is not in copyright in the U.S.; it is in the

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread David Woolley
Rudy Lippan wrote: There may not be intellectual property in the components; however, there is work involved in their creation. As such, I think it would be fair to be able to attribute the creator some level of control over the use use of the product. License may be the wrong term here, but

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread David Woolley
John Cowan wrote: You can't restrict how people use copyrighted works by reason of the copyright alone: you can only control how they copy, distribute, or modify them. I believe that may be true in the USA. Running a computer program is restricted under UK copyright law. -- David

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread Rudy Lippan
On 10/06/2011 12:50 PM, Rudy Lippan wrote: There will also be a community aspect where individuals will develop and contribute components, just like every other open source project However, some of the contributed components may not be eligible for copyright protections. A

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread Rudy Lippan
Rudy Lippan scripsit: I give you free use of a copy machine, but state that as a condition of use, you can't copy any of the books on shelf #3, even though a) I don't own the books and b) they are in the public domain. You can do that because you own the copy machine. But if a book is

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread John Cowan
Rudy Lippan scripsit: But if I own the the software (copy machine), could I state that as a condition of my allowing you to use the software that you will read the requirements(title page) of the components (books) and agree to abide by what it says before using it with the software (making

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread John Cowan
David Woolley scripsit: I believe that may be true in the USA. Running a computer program is restricted under UK copyright law. Technically it is copying in the U.S. too, but there is an automatic license to do such copying, as long as your possession of the software is lawful. -- John

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread Rudy Lippan
On Thursday, October 06, 2011 at 05:59:45 PM, John Cowan wrote: Rudy Lippan scripsit: But if I own the the software (copy machine), could I state that as a condition of my allowing you to use the software that you will read the requirements(title page) of the components (books) and

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread Rudy Lippan
On Thursday, October 06, 2011 at 05:06:58 PM, David Woolley wrote: Rudy Lippan wrote: There may not be intellectual property in the components; however, there is work involved in their creation. As such, I think it would be fair to be able to attribute the creator some level of