Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-15 Thread Henrik Ingo
Fwiw, I don't mind having this discussion on this list. It's not that far off topic and you're not the first to try. Still it's my opinion that it's outside osi competence to advice or recommend the part of your endeavor that is a proprietary license. Henrik On 15 Aug 2013 04:10, fred trotter

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-15 Thread fred trotter
Several of the licenses on the current OSI list (including some licenses recommended by automated license recommendation tools touted around here) already are Open Source But They Suck Anyway. OSI and FSF both have proven to be sometimes bad judges of license suckiness. Would it be prudent

Re: [License-discuss] Endorsement clause?

2013-08-15 Thread David Woolley
On 15/08/13 03:44, ldr ldr wrote: 3. Once every quarter (4 months) of active use [defined as 10 users], an email endorsement to address must be sent stating total number of users; and preferably company the installation is associated with. It's a field of endeavour restriction. It restricts

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-15 Thread fred trotter
Eben, As always I feel like I have to apologize for my language skills when responding to you. This is so elegantly written it almost seems rude to write replies throughout... nonetheless: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Eben Moglen mog...@softwarefreedom.orgwrote: Whatever the truth of

Re: [License-discuss] Endorsement clause?

2013-08-15 Thread Gervase Markham
On 15/08/13 03:44, ldr ldr wrote: What are your thoughts on the existence and wording of an endorsement clause? Here is what I am thinking, if I choose to amend the BSD license: Are you attempting to keep your licence open source/free? If so, your clause 3 fails that test. Gerv

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-15 Thread John Cowan
fred trotter scripsit: This is more an issue of brand maintenance. Lets say I create license called Fred's Unusually Nice License and then I convince everyone in the investor/developer communities that this is a good way to make money and still make Libre software in the end. But then someone

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-15 Thread Tzeng, Nigel H.
It is difficult to sustain a major release cycle of 6 months and have any significantly new capabilities at each release cycle. Easier at the beginning as you're ramping up but once you have a mature product it strikes me as incremental. The low hanging fruit has been built, new capabilities

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-15 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting fred trotter (fred.trot...@gmail.com): The mandate for this list is facilitate constructive discussion of open source licensing and further the goals of the OSI. Your argument is that this list only exists to determine whether a given license meets the definition of Open Source, and