Re: [License-discuss] [FTF-Legal] Reverse Engineering and Open Source Licenses

2015-03-06 Thread David Woolley
On 06/03/15 09:09, Reincke, Karsten wrote: Why do I only say ‘very similar’ instead of ‘equal’. The problem with your summary is this: you do not talk about the license text! Your term “combined work” DOES NOT OCOUR in The problem with your approach is that you do not talk about the spirit

Re: [License-discuss] [FTF-Legal] Reverse Engineering and Open Source Licenses

2015-03-06 Thread Tzeng, Nigel H.
Well, the provided text in the document does not appear to me to be conclusive that permitting reverse engineering is not required from LGPL users. There¹s interesting analysis of the wording but the real ³missing step² for me would be that your analysis would actually hold up in a court of law.

Re: [License-discuss] [FTF-Legal] Reverse Engineering and Open Source Licenses

2015-03-06 Thread Lawrence Rosen
Nigel and others, We needn't rely on some DT document to justify our reverse engineering. Here is what EFF says we can do in the United States: https://www.eff.org/issues/coders/reverse-engineering-faq Perhaps we can rely on their well-researched legal analysis for now. Someone complained

Re: [License-discuss] [FTF-Legal] Reverse Engineering and Open Source Licenses

2015-03-06 Thread Reincke, Karsten
Dear Mr. Tilly; On a first glance, your mail seems to be clear an reasonable. Unfortunately you are impeding the everyday work of those who want and must convince and support their companies, employees and colleagues to use free software compliantly. Let me explain, how your obstruction comes

Re: [License-discuss] [FTF-Legal] Reverse Engineering and Open Source Licenses

2015-03-06 Thread Cinly Ooi
Dear Larry I have no doubt about your legal expertise and experience, but I think generally speaking using something legally reverse-engineered in one jurisdiction in another jurisdiction where that specific act of reverse-engineering is illegal is at the minimum, problematic. This is

Re: [License-discuss] [FTF-Legal] Reverse Engineering and Open Source Licenses

2015-03-06 Thread Ben Tilly
There is a significant problem with the abbreviated version that you wish I had said. I believe your analysis is wrong when you concluded that dynamic linking is enough to escape the reverse engineering provision. It would therefore be a lie for me to say something like, But indeed, this

Re: [License-discuss] [FTF-Legal] Reverse Engineering and Open Source Licenses

2015-03-06 Thread Lawrence Rosen
Cindy Ooi wrote: It also impose a moral hazard: If one simply has to do the reverse engineering job in a country that permits the type of reverse engineering in order to be able to legally use the result anywhere, then we are merely constrained by the highest common factor of all