Re: [License-discuss] GPL and proprietary WebAPIs

2011-12-27 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Tzeng, Nigel H. nigel.tz...@jhuapl.edu wrote: I'm trying to find an appropriate licensing strategy for our company, and I'm expressly trying to prevent and understand the sort of shims that seem to be standard industry practice.  If our work can't be protected

Re: [License-discuss] GPL and non-GPL binaries in one distribution

2012-01-12 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Rick Moen r...@linuxmafia.com wrote: Quoting Henrik Ingo (henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi): On this topic there are many opinions out there and little case law, but personally I've always thought that if the FSF as the author of the GPL thinks something

Re: [License-discuss] GPL and non-GPL binaries in one distribution

2012-01-12 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: In that, the only way the opinion of the license's author really seems to factor into things once the license has already been written is as a contribution to the common understanding of the license.  For that purpose,

Re: [License-discuss] BSD, MIT [was Re: Draft of new OSI licenses landing page; please review.]

2012-04-06 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:35 PM, John Cowan co...@mercury.ccil.org wrote: do not belong in a first-class list here in 2012. Apache fills the same purpose[1] (permissive license) while being better drafted and properly handling patents. Without getting into other issues, I'd hope we can

Re: [License-discuss] proposal to revise and slightly reorganize the OSI licensing pages

2012-06-11 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Bruce Perens br...@perens.com wrote: On 06/10/2012 10:49 PM, Rick Moen wrote: I believe this is entirely consistent with what I said, Bruce. You even said 'Read caselaw.' I think we need to come to grips to the fact that it may be possible for GPL software

Re: [License-discuss] proposal to revise and slightly reorganize the OSI licensing pages

2012-06-11 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Bruce Perens br...@perens.com wrote: On 06/11/2012 12:18 AM, Henrik Ingo wrote: To be clear, NuSphere did not embed MySQL in their product, rather they embedded closed source components into MySQL Per Eben's testimony, the Gemini storage engine, using

Re: [License-discuss] Can copyrights be abandoned to the public domain?

2012-08-16 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Johnny Solbu joh...@solbu.net wrote: On Friday 17 August 2012 02:15, Russ Nelson wrote: but it's clear that OSI Approved Open Source contributions from people who live in countries that claim Moral Rights is inferior to people who live in countries which

Re: [License-discuss] Can copyrights be abandoned to the public domain?

2012-08-16 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Henrik Ingo henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Johnny Solbu joh...@solbu.net wrote: On Friday 17 August 2012 02:15, Russ Nelson wrote: but it's clear that OSI Approved Open Source contributions from people who live in countries

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-14 Thread Henrik Ingo
Hi fred I think what you are asking for guidance on, is outside the mandate of osi, and fsf too. The time delayed license should of On 14 Aug 2013 19:24, fred trotter fred.trot...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am sending this to both FSF and OSI people. Please tolerate my use of the various

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-14 Thread Henrik Ingo
license is then outside the osi mandate to support, and off topic for this list. Henrik On 14 Aug 2013 20:40, Henrik Ingo henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi wrote: Hi fred I think what you are asking for guidance on, is outside the mandate of osi, and fsf too. The time delayed license should of On 14

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-15 Thread Henrik Ingo
proposal relates to balancing business vs Open Source community interests. I am asking this mailing list for help crafting a proprietary license. It is certainly ironic but not at all off-topic. -FT On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Henrik Ingo henrik.i...@avoinelama.fiwrote: Sorry

Re: [License-discuss] Can OSI take stance that U.S. public domain is open source?

2014-05-03 Thread Henrik Ingo
That's an interesting angle to bite on... Does the US government grant itself patents, and if so, what does it do with those patents? On 3 May 2014 06:45, Richard Fontana font...@sharpeleven.org wrote: On Fri, 02 May 2014 14:55:55 -0500 Karl Fogel kfo...@red-bean.com wrote: This thread on

Re: [License-discuss] Can OSI take stance that U.S. public domain is open source?

2014-05-04 Thread Henrik Ingo
The analoguous explanation for why cc0 didn't qualify is that it explicitly said you get rights a and b but not c, with c a necessary right to copy and use the software. It should be obvious that - even if you'd disagree wrt patents - at least for some values of c that is clearly not open source.

Re: [License-discuss] Can OSI take stance that U.S. public domain is open source?

2014-05-04 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Richard Fontana font...@sharpeleven.org wrote: On Sat, 3 May 2014 22:07:19 +0300 Henrik Ingo henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi wrote: Does the US government grant itself patents, Yes. and if so, what does it do with those patents? Many are licensed

Re: [License-discuss] Can OSI take stance that U.S. public domain is open source?

2014-05-04 Thread Henrik Ingo
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Re: [License-discuss] Fwd: Question regarding GNU Terms of use

2015-06-18 Thread Henrik Ingo
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Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-09-30 Thread Henrik Ingo
nrik -- henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi +358-40-5697354skype: henrik.ingoirc: hingo www.openlife.cc My LinkedIn profile: http://fi.linkedin.com/pub/henrik-ingo/3/232/8a7 ___ License-discuss mailing list License-discuss@opensource.org https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss

Re: [License-discuss] Orphan Works: Summary of proposed 17 USC 514

2015-12-04 Thread Henrik Ingo
reasonable compensation; and > > > > · Explicitly preserve the ability of users to assert fair use for uses > of orphan works. > > > > "Orphan Works and Mass Digitization": > http://copyright.gov/orphan/reports/o

Re: [License-discuss] Orphan Works: Summary of proposed 17 USC 514

2015-12-07 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Michael R. Bernstein <mich...@fandomhome.com> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Henrik Ingo <henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi> > wrote: >> This is interesting indeed. This is so unusual that I have to ask: >> what is the politic

Re: [License-discuss] open source licenses addressing malicious derivatives

2016-06-23 Thread Henrik Ingo
Cheers! > Sean > > > ___ > License-discuss mailing list > License-discuss@opensource.org > https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss > > -- henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi +358-

Re: [License-discuss] Fwd: Yet another question about using libraries with different licensed in OSS

2017-01-18 Thread Henrik Ingo
like your name! In my ancestral line some hundred years ago there was a sequence of men called Mikkel. And they were of course farmers. One was even called Mikkel Mikkelsson, as his father was Mikkel too. -- henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi +358-40-5697354skype: henrik.ingoirc: hingo www.openlife

Re: [License-discuss] Views on React licensing?

2016-12-12 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Tzeng, Nigel H. <nigel.tz...@jhuapl.edu> wrote: > On 12/6/16, 3:33 PM, "henrik.i...@gmail.com on behalf of Henrik Ingo" > <henrik.i...@gmail.com on behalf of henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi> wrote: >>The question isn't abou

Re: [License-discuss] Views on React licensing?

2016-12-13 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:17 AM, Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote: > Quoting Henrik Ingo (henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi): > >> Good to remember that CC0 is not an OSI approved open source license, >> precisely because it did not grant a patent license. >

Re: [License-discuss] Views on React licensing?

2016-12-06 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Tzeng, Nigel H. <nigel.tz...@jhuapl.edu> wrote: > On 12/5/16, 6:55 AM, "License-discuss on behalf of Henrik Ingo" > <license-discuss-boun...@opensource.org on behalf of > henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi> wrote: >>On Fri, Dec 2, 2

Re: [License-discuss] Views on React licensing?

2016-12-12 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 7:55 PM, Lawrence Rosen <lro...@rosenlaw.com> wrote: > Henrik Ingo wrote: > > MIT is on record as saying that the MIT license, which is otherwise > equivalent to the 2-clause BSD license, does *not* grant a patent license. I just wanted to catch

Re: [License-discuss] notes on a systematic approach to "popular" licenses

2017-01-10 Thread Henrik Ingo
rtant decision-making > factor, which made the idea plausible, but non-copyleft factors matter much > more than I once thought, and make simplifying to a "wizard" too hard for > OSI (though perhaps still plausible for a third party). > Documentation of what the copyleft spectrum is, what the key licenses on it > are, and what other factors might be relevant, is still a good idea, but are > secondary to getting the basic lists right. > > HTH- > > Luis > > > ___ > License-discuss mailing list > License-discuss@opensource.org > https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss > -- henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi +358-40-5697354skype: henrik.ingoirc: hingo www.openlife.cc My LinkedIn profile: http://fi.linkedin.com/pub/henrik-ingo/3/232/8a7 ___ License-discuss mailing list License-discuss@opensource.org https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss

Re: [License-discuss] Views on React licensing?

2016-12-05 Thread Henrik Ingo
i +358-40-5697354skype: henrik.ingoirc: hingo www.openlife.cc My LinkedIn profile: http://fi.linkedin.com/pub/henrik-ingo/3/232/8a7 ___ License-discuss mailing list License-discuss@opensource.org https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss

Re: [License-discuss] [Non-DoD Source] Groups/Communities

2017-01-05 Thread Henrik Ingo
t; Website: www.opensource.org > ___ > License-discuss mailing list > License-discuss@opensource.org > https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss -- henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi +358-40-5697354

Re: [License-discuss] New maintainer, changing license?

2017-07-29 Thread Henrik Ingo
b site, http://www.solbu.net > PGP key ID: 0x4F5AD64DFA687324 > > ___ > License-discuss mailing list > License-discuss@opensource.org > https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss > -- henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi +358-40-5697354skype: henrik.ingo

Re: [License-discuss] FreeAndFair license

2017-06-21 Thread Henrik Ingo
__ > License-discuss mailing list > License-discuss@opensource.org > https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss > -- henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi +358-40-5697354skype: henrik.ingoirc: hingo www.openlife.cc My LinkedIn p

Re: [License-discuss] I've been asked to license my open source project CC0

2017-11-10 Thread Henrik Ingo
will still have both the warranty and whatever patent license may be implied by the short ISC license. henrik -- henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi +358-40-5697354skype: henrik.ingoirc: hingo www.openlife.cc My LinkedIn profile: http://fi.linke