Re: Copyright Act preempts the wave theory of light

2004-02-12 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED], Can we stop these posts already? About 280KB worth of e-mail has now be exchanged in discussing this topic, including the 'amusing' spin-off discussions. It's certainly an important topic, if for no other reason

Re: Why? Re: Will we be sued?

2003-12-30 Thread Nathan Kelley
To John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] and OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Nathan Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED], All good advice, Larry :-) No no no no no no no. It is *not* advice. It is *not* advice. It is only education! Although this posting was written

Re: Why? Re: Will we be sued?

2003-12-29 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Jan Dockx [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: David Presotto [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Jan Dockx [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Lawrence E. Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Are we really afraid that we will be sued for damages by something we give away for free (as in free

Re: That Notorious Suit (Slightly OT)

2003-10-30 Thread Nathan Kelley
To Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Nathan Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Nathan Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED], I had never heard of this stumbling block (not to say that it wasn't there). But I've never heard of someone not wanting to use a GPL

That Notorious Suit (Slightly OT)

2003-10-29 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, By That Notorious Suit I mean the ongoing drama between The Santa Cruz Operation and International Business Machines over breach of contract. I appears that the GnU General Public License, as part of routine proceedings in the case, is to be examined:

Re: That Notorious Suit (Slightly OT)

2003-10-29 Thread Nathan Kelley
To Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Nathan Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED], By That Notorious Suit I mean the ongoing drama between The Santa Cruz Operation and International Business Machines over breach of contract. To be picky, Santa Cruz Operation

Re: That Notorious Suit (Slightly OT)

2003-10-29 Thread Nathan Kelley
To Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Nathan Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED], 1) Within your scenario, you should also consider the *probability* of the GPL being found wanting. This is an important point

Re: discuss: Jaluna Public License 1.1

2003-03-04 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Benoit Poulot-Cazajous [EMAIL PROTECTED], Please consider the Jaluna Public License 1.1 for approbation. This license can be found at : http://www.jaluna.com/developer/jpl-1.1.html This license is derived from the Mozilla Public License 1.1,

Re: Antiwar License

2003-03-03 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Sergey Goldgaber [EMAIL PROTECTED], A recent Slashdot article, U.S. Army's Future Combat System Will Run Linux, http://slashdot.org/articles/03/03/02/0216215.shtml?tid=103tid=163 has made me wonder if there could be some way to prevent the military

Re: discuss: No Warranty License.

2003-02-28 Thread Nathan Kelley
To Justin Chen-Wells, Rod Dixon J.D. LL.M. and OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Justin Chen-Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Nathan Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Justin Chen-Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Rod Dixon J.D. LL.M. [EMAIL PROTECTED], On the other hand supposing some

Re: discuss: No Warranty License.

2003-02-27 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Anonymous Poster, From: David Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED], I have concluded that the No Warranty License does not conform to the Open Source Definition. The offending clause is as follows: If the following disclaimer of warranty and liability is not

Re: Question about GPL with exception

2003-02-27 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Arnaud Quette [EMAIL PROTECTED], We (MGE UPS SYSTEMS) would like to release some code under GPL with exception (file header at the end of this mail), and we need to have confirmation about some points to do things cleanly and surely: 1) As the GPL

Re: discuss: No Warranty License.

2003-02-27 Thread Nathan Kelley
To Justin Chen-Wells, From: Nathan Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Justin Chen-Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED], This violates Item 5 of the OSD, which states that The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons.. By not granting equal rights to users, distributors and open

Re: Approval Requested for AFL 1.2 and OSL 1.1

2002-11-23 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Mahesh T Pai [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Lawrence E. Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Almost every country specifies that suits for damages should be brought at the place of residence / business of the defendant. You can rarely contract out of that. That

Re: Approval Request: RPSL 1.0

2002-11-08 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Rob Lanphier [EMAIL PROTECTED], Here is a link to the RealNetworks Public Source License (RPSL): http://www.helixcommunity.org/content/rpsl We'd like to submit this for consideration as an OSI-certified license. I have read the RealNetworks

Re: [OT] gstephan@assawompset.com

2002-10-26 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Nathan Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sorry to post an OT message, but I wanted to know if other subscribers that post here get a return message from the Assawompset mail system something like this (headers appear to be legitimate

Re: Copyright

2002-10-25 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Graham Bassett [EMAIL PROTECTED], There is authority to show that, at least by analogy, equity could allow such specific performance. Multiple developers could be joined in an action or the open community or communities who have overseen the

Re: a proposed change to the OSD

2002-10-25 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'm going to propose a change the Open Source Definition at our board meeting next Thursday. It is simply this: 0) A license may not restrict use or modification of a lawfully obtained copy of a work. Anybody

[OT] gstephan@assawompset.com

2002-10-25 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, Sorry to post an OT message, but I wanted to know if other subscribers that post here get a return message from the Assawompset mail system something like this (headers appear to be legitimate): - The addresse had permanent fatal errors -

Re: Simplified Artistic License [osd]

2002-10-15 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Robert Samuel White [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED], Larry, I can't afford an attorney, as you already know. And I cannot use one of the existing licenses because it does not feel right to me to do so. These are

Re: Simplified Artistic License

2002-10-04 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers and Robert Samuel White, I have read the Simplified Artistic License. Robert, it mostly complies with the OSD, although I would look into three additional, minor points: (1) The license should define Derived in the Definitions. (2) The license should

Re: discuss: OCLC Office of Research Open Source License

2002-10-02 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED], [ Please discuss this license. -russ ] Dears Sirs, We are submitting the OCLC Office of Research Public License 2.0 as a candidate for OSI Certification. Feel free to post the license to the license-discuss

Re: discuss: Update for Submitted License

2002-09-20 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion Subscribers, From: Stefan Wachter [EMAIL PROTECTED], (Note: I've removed the HTML tags and cleaned up the layout since there was no HTML-encoded version of the original message. I have left the entire license intact in case you want to use the plan-text version.)

Correction (was: Re: discuss: Update for Submitted License)

2002-09-20 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers, From: Stefan Wachter [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Nathan Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED], 4. You may use the Package, a Modified Package, or a non-commercial product that contains the Package or a Modified Package in a commercial environment, e.g. a commercial

Re: discuss: Modified Artistic License (eNetwizard Content Application Server)

2002-08-31 Thread Nathan Kelley
, the license is now, is believe, OSD compliant. Cheers, Nathan. Nathan Kelley | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: variable notification display req.'s

2002-08-30 Thread Nathan Kelley
redistributors from exercising their 'open' rights under the license. Cheers, Nathan. Nathan Kelley | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: discuss: Modified Artistic License (eNetwizard Content Application Server)

2002-08-30 Thread Nathan Kelley
programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale. If this were fixed, I would welcome this license into the list of Approved Licenses. Cheers, Nathan. Nathan Kelley | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Query on a P2P EULA

2002-08-29 Thread Nathan Kelley
you can show that your software has and is being used for purposes aside from transfers of multimedia files. Cheers, Nathan. Nathan Kelley | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- license-discuss

Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-05 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Nathan Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Abe Kornelis [EMAIL PROTECTED], I have read the Bixoft Public License (proposal version). I believe that it is consistent with the Open Source Definition, and meets the requirements for OSI

Re: Academic Free License

2002-06-27 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribers, From: Lawrence E. Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED], I am submitting the accompanying Academic Free License for your review and for OSI approval. The online copy of the license is at http://www.rosenlaw.com/afl.html. I have read the Academic

Re: [discuss] License Approval Request: Macromedia Open Source License

2002-06-21 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribers, From: Tom Harwood [EMAIL PROTECTED], Macromedia, Inc., would like to obtain OSI certification for its Open Source License. The Macromedia Open Source License is based on the IBM Public License, with the following changes per our

Re: Revised Version of Public Scripting License

2002-06-21 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribers, From: Joshua Colson [EMAIL PROTECTED], In response to David Johnson's concerns regarding the Public Scripting License, we have amended sections and added others, hopefully addressing many of the concerns which he had. The amended

Re: [discuss] License Approval Request: Macromedia Open Source Li cense

2002-06-21 Thread Nathan Kelley
To Tom Harwood [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Tom Harwood [EMAIL PROTECTED], From: Tom Harwood [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thanks, everyone, for your comments. I am summarizing the discussion for Macromedia's Legal department and for the management, my understanding of the issues is: (1) changed IBM