Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-06 Thread Kevin Fleming
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Zluty Sysel wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion. > All options will be considered but our original hope was to be able to > require attribution to everybody with some exceptions (i.e. certain > customers). > This is not a 'waiver', it's a

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-02 Thread Zluty Sysel
Thanks for the reply. On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: > On 01/10/15 14:27, Zluty Sysel wrote: >> distributed) product. Given this, let me rephrase: Can we allow these >> customers not to reproduce the BSD license text even if our AUTHORS >> file contains

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-02 Thread Zluty Sysel
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Gervase Markham wrote: > On 02/10/15 14:26, Zluty Sysel wrote: >> What if we accepted contributions from individuals but only >> "acknowledged" their work in a special "THANKS" or "ACKNOWLEDGEMENT" >> file without modifying at all the "(c)

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-02 Thread Gervase Markham
On 02/10/15 14:26, Zluty Sysel wrote: > What if we accepted contributions from individuals but only > "acknowledged" their work in a special "THANKS" or "ACKNOWLEDGEMENT" > file without modifying at all the "(c) TheCompany" in the license > itself and therefore not granting any ownership rights to

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-02 Thread David Woolley
On 02/10/15 10:22, Gervase Markham wrote: * Pick a project license which does not require attribution (that basically means a Public Domain dedication); or Public domain dedication is impossible in Europe. There is some doubt as whether it is even possible in the USA. The nearest you would

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-02 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Zluty Sysel wrote: > The problem comes with acknowledging the usage of this codebase in > binary distributions. Some of the future users of this source code are > also our current customers, and some of these customers do not want to >

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-02 Thread Gervase Markham
On 02/10/15 11:05, David Woolley wrote: > Public domain dedication is impossible in Europe. There is some doubt > as whether it is even possible in the USA. The nearest you would get is > something like CC0, which attempts to disclaim as much IPR as it is > possible to disclaim. That is indeed

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-02 Thread Zluty Sysel
Hi there, Thanks for the reply. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Philippe Ombredanne wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Zluty Sysel wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> After conquering many hurdles along the way, it looks like the company >> I am a part

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-02 Thread Gervase Markham
On 01/10/15 14:27, Zluty Sysel wrote: > distributed) product. Given this, let me rephrase: Can we allow these > customers not to reproduce the BSD license text even if our AUTHORS > file contains names and email addresses of people outside of our > company? Because that's really all we're after

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-02 Thread Zluty Sysel
Hi there, Thanks for the reply. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:33 PM, Henrik Ingo wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Zluty Sysel wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> After conquering many hurdles along the way, it looks like the company >> I am a part of

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-02 Thread Gervase Markham
On 02/10/15 15:36, Zluty Sysel wrote: > So just to be sure, if the contributors waiver their ownership rights, > then the 3-clause BSD stands and if users do not acknowledge usage of > the software in their binary distributions it is up to the company to > choose whether to enforce or not that

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-02 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
Can we allow these customers not to reproduce the BSD license text even if our AUTHORS file contains names and email addresses of people outside of our company? Because that's really all we're after here, allowing certain customers not to have to mention that they are using our libraries. If

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-02 Thread Zluty Sysel
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote: >> Can we allow these >> customers not to reproduce the BSD license text even if our AUTHORS >> file contains names and email addresses of people outside of our >> company? Because that's really all we're after

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-02 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Stephen Paul Weber (singpol...@singpolyma.net): > If you want to be open source and do not want to require > attribution, why not consider or similar? Like most recent licences that aim to be more minimal than MIT/X11 License and Fair License (both OSI Certified,

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-02 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Zluty Sysel (zluty.sy...@gmail.com): > What if we accepted contributions from individuals but only > "acknowledged" their work in a special "THANKS" or "ACKNOWLEDGEMENT" > file without modifying at all the "(c) TheCompany" in the license > itself and therefore not granting any ownership

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-01 Thread Philippe Ombredanne
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Zluty Sysel wrote: > Hi all, > > After conquering many hurdles along the way, it looks like the company > I am a part of is willing to release a good part of the source code we > own as open source software. Before we do that though there

[License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-09-30 Thread Zluty Sysel
Hi all, After conquering many hurdles along the way, it looks like the company I am a part of is willing to release a good part of the source code we own as open source software. Before we do that though there are a couple of outstanding issues that I was hoping someone on this mailing list could

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-09-30 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Zluty Sysel wrote: > Hi all, > > After conquering many hurdles along the way, it looks like the company > I am a part of is willing to release a good part of the source code we > own as open source software. Before we do that though there