Re: Formal Request for Approval: Simplified Artistic License

2002-10-28 Thread Robert Samuel White
. I do not expect any more changes to be made. I feel this license is solid and ready to undergo review by the OSI Board. PACKAGE_NAME LICENSE (Simplified Artistic License) Preamble Copyright COPYRIGHT_HOLDER, COPYRIGHT_YEAR. All Rights Reserved. The intent of this document is to state

Formal Request for Approval: Simplified Artistic License

2002-10-27 Thread Robert Samuel White
[My apologies if you receive this twice; I thought I sent it in text format the first time...] This is a formal request that the OSI Board approve the license I have created, the Simplified Artistic License. I have patiently listened to all feedback regarding this license and adjusted

Re: Formal Request for Approval: Simplified Artistic License

2002-10-27 Thread David Johnson
From my perspective, this license meets the Open Source Definition. I do have some minor comments. - Redistributions of the Package in source form must retain the original copyright notices and associated comments that are included at the beginning of each source file, denoted as an

Re: Simplified Artistic License [osd]

2002-10-15 Thread Nathan Kelley
) it contains too many conditions that I do not feel are necessary. ...for the new Simplified Artistic License, created in response to the resistance to approving the license despite the license being OSD compliant, and promises to the author that it would happen: I believe that there is a need

Re: Simplified Artistic License [osd]

2002-10-14 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Oct 08, 2002, Robert Samuel White ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Larry, I can't afford an attorney, as you already know. And I cannot use one of the existing licenses because it does not feel right to me to do so. These are constraints imposed by you. You're welcome to live with the

RE: Simplified Artistic License [osd]

2002-10-08 Thread Robert Samuel White
, outdated? Refer to the original post with this same subject line. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Nathan Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 8:38 PM To: Robert Samuel White Subject: Re: Simplified Artistic License [osd] To Robert Samuel White, From: Robert

RE: Simplified Artistic License [osd]

2002-10-08 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
- First and foremost, I want a license which is less complicated than the existing licenses. You're entitled to that, but we've warned you to consult an attorney. Complexity is related to enforceability. Attorneys will almost certainly not recommend your license to their clients because it

RE: Simplified Artistic License [osd]

2002-10-08 Thread Robert Samuel White
believe that this discussion has long reached its usefulness and should be ended now. -Original Message- From: Lawrence E. Rosen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 3:45 PM To: 'Robert Samuel White'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Simplified Artistic License [osd

Re: Moral Rights (was Simplified Artistic License (A Proposed Compromise))

2002-10-07 Thread Russell Nelson
Bruce Dodson writes: You misunderstood me, Larry. I was not saying that YOU were trying to discourage RSW from pursuing approval. On the contrary I was surmising, without putting words in your mouth, that you'd agree that this would be unconscionable. As for Russ and others, I

Re: Moral Rights (was Simplified Artistic License (A Proposed Compromise))

2002-10-07 Thread Lewis Collard
Russell Nelson sez: In any case, I'm very suspicious of this term: - Use of any form whatsoever must retain the three automatically generated META tags for all HTML output; these tags indicate that the page was generated by eNetwizard and directs users to more information

Re: Moral Rights (was Simplified Artistic License (A Proposed Compromise))

2002-10-06 Thread Bruce Dodson
To: 'Russell Nelson' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Simplified Artistic License (A Proposed Compromise) I've decided to just forget it. I'm going to use my license and forget about OSI approving it. I didn't want this much controversy. I was very patient and listened to every one's

RE: Moral Rights (was Simplified Artistic License (A Proposed Compromise))

2002-10-06 Thread Robert Samuel White
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moral Rights (was Simplified Artistic License (A Proposed Compromise)) I don't know if this is quite what Larry was saying, but I for one consider it an unfair tactic to try to discourage RSW from seeking approval. Russ and other board members may think he is misguided

RE: Moral Rights (was Simplified Artistic License (A Proposed Compromise))

2002-10-06 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
I don't know if this is quite what Larry was saying, but I for one consider it an unfair tactic to try to discourage RSW from seeking approval. Russ and other board members may think he is misguided in believing that others will want to use his license, and might even be right, but that

Re: Moral Rights (was Simplified Artistic License (A Proposed Compromise))

2002-10-06 Thread Bruce Dodson
' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Robert Samuel White' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Russell Nelson' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 9:00 PM Subject: RE: Moral Rights (was Simplified Artistic License (A Proposed Compromise)) I don't know if this is quite what Larry was saying

RE: Moral Rights (was Simplified Artistic License (A Proposed Compromise))

2002-10-06 Thread Robert Samuel White
Guys, it's no biggie...really! -Original Message- From: Bruce Dodson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 12:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Robert Samuel White'; 'Russell Nelson' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moral Rights (was Simplified Artistic License

Re: Simplified Artistic License

2002-10-04 Thread Nathan Kelley
To OSI License Discussion subscribers and Robert Samuel White, I have read the Simplified Artistic License. Robert, it mostly complies with the OSD, although I would look into three additional, minor points: (1) The license should define Derived in the Definitions. (2) The license should

RE: Simplified Artistic License

2002-10-04 Thread Robert Samuel White
feedback. I'd appreciate it... Thanks! eNetwizard Content Management Server License (Simplified Artistic License) Preamble Copyright Robert Samuel White, 1998-2002. All Rights Reserved. The intent of this document is to state the conditions under which eNetwizard Content Management

RE: Simplified Artistic License

2002-10-04 Thread Robert Samuel White
]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 9:46 AM To: OSI License Discussion Cc: Robert Samuel White Subject: Re: Simplified Artistic License To OSI License Discussion subscribers and Robert Samuel White, I have read the Simplified Artistic License. Robert, it mostly complies with the OSD, although I would

RE: Simplified Artistic License [osd]

2002-10-04 Thread Robert Samuel White
(Simplified Artistic License) Preamble Copyright Robert Samuel White, 1998-2002. All Rights Reserved. The intent of this document is to state the conditions under which eNetwizard Content Management Server (Package), and derivatives of that collection of files created through textual modification

Simplified Artistic License

2002-10-03 Thread Robert Samuel White
If it would please Russ, and the OSI, then I propose accepting a template of my license, which could be called the Simplified Artistic License. I believe that there is a need for it, for several reasons: (1) the Artistic License has some archaic conditions within it, (2) it has too many

Simplified Artistic License

2002-10-03 Thread Robert Samuel White
If it would please Russ, and the OSI, then I propose accepting a template of my license, which could be called the Simplified Artistic License. I believe that there is a need for it, for several reasons: (1) the Artistic License has some archaic conditions within it, (2) it has too many

Re: Simplified Artistic License (A Proposed Compromise)

2002-10-03 Thread Robert Samuel White
for my desires. And I think that others would want to use this license as well. So I propose the Simplified Artistic License. I posted a copy of the template for it to the list, but I think that it can be simplified even further, by removing the definitions section of the license, since these words

Re: Simplified Artistic License

2002-10-03 Thread Robert Samuel White
Dear Russ, When you say that you would have a problem with that language now in reference to something written in the Artistic License, it only reinforces one of the original reasons why I have asked for approval of the Simplified Artistic License. The Artistic License had its place, and maybe

Re: Simplified Artistic License (A Proposed Compromise)

2002-10-03 Thread Russell Nelson
Robert Samuel White writes: I can understand your point of view, I just wonder if you can see mine? Of course. Do you understand that I see your point of view, and that I'm trying to help you achieve your goal? I am an artist. I develop software, and that's what I love doing. I also

RE: Simplified Artistic License (A Proposed Compromise)

2002-10-03 Thread Robert Samuel White
, 2002 5:01 PM To: Robert Samuel White Subject: RE: Simplified Artistic License (A Proposed Compromise) Robert Samuel White writes: There are some things I like about the Academic Free License, then there are many things that I do not like... Do you really want me to go into it? Yes

RE: Moral Rights (was Simplified Artistic License (A Proposed Compromise))

2002-10-03 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
. What's wrong with the AFL, for example, as an alternative to RSW's Simplified Artistic License? Why doesn't trademark law give RSW the artistic protection he desires? These are not just idle questions intended to give you one more hurdle to overcome; your answers are vitally important so we can

Re: Simplified Artistic License

2002-10-03 Thread David Johnson
On Thursday 03 October 2002 10:02 am, Robert Samuel White wrote: - If the source code was modified in any way, each file that was modified must include the statement this file was modified from its original version along with appropriate comments indicating how and why the file was modified;