[Lift] Re: Stax

2009-06-24 Thread Meredith Gregory
Jon,

Sweet!

Best wishes,

--greg

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:11 PM, jon  wrote:

>
> I was able to get the latest lift-example application deployed without
> a problem: http://helloworld.hoffrocket.staxapps.net/.  It's running
> against a mysql DB that they're hosting, not h2.
>
> I got an nginx 502 gateway down with a more substantial app, but their
> log files were all blank, so I have no idea what the problem was.
>
> Their deployment mechanism is war/ear based (ear built locally, then
> uploaded).  It would be cool if they supported standard mvn layouts
> and could just build your war from source.  I'm on a 512kb max upload
> and lift-example took 5 minutes to deploy.
>
> - Jon
>
> On Jun 24, 4:21 pm, Tim Nelson  wrote:
> > I think they use Gant.http://gant.codehaus.org/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:10 PM, fan...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Tim Nelson a écrit :
> > > [...]
> > > > I did install their SDK and from what I can tell it's basically some
> > > > Groovy scripts that use Ant + Ivy.
> >
> > > Gradle perhaps ?http://www.gradle.org/
> >
> > > --
> > > Francois Armand
> > >http://fanf42.blogspot.com
>
> >
>


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[Lift] Re: Stax

2009-06-24 Thread jon

I was able to get the latest lift-example application deployed without
a problem: http://helloworld.hoffrocket.staxapps.net/.  It's running
against a mysql DB that they're hosting, not h2.

I got an nginx 502 gateway down with a more substantial app, but their
log files were all blank, so I have no idea what the problem was.

Their deployment mechanism is war/ear based (ear built locally, then
uploaded).  It would be cool if they supported standard mvn layouts
and could just build your war from source.  I'm on a 512kb max upload
and lift-example took 5 minutes to deploy.

- Jon

On Jun 24, 4:21 pm, Tim Nelson  wrote:
> I think they use Gant.http://gant.codehaus.org/
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:10 PM, fan...@gmail.com  wrote:
>
> > Tim Nelson a écrit :
> > [...]
> > > I did install their SDK and from what I can tell it's basically some
> > > Groovy scripts that use Ant + Ivy.
>
> > Gradle perhaps ?http://www.gradle.org/
>
> > --
> > Francois Armand
> >http://fanf42.blogspot.com

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[Lift] Re: Stax

2009-06-24 Thread Tim Nelson
I think they use Gant. http://gant.codehaus.org/

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:10 PM, fan...@gmail.com  wrote:

>
> Tim Nelson a écrit :
> [...]
> > I did install their SDK and from what I can tell it's basically some
> > Groovy scripts that use Ant + Ivy.
>
> Gradle perhaps ? http://www.gradle.org/
>
>
> --
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>
> >
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[Lift] Re: Stax

2009-06-24 Thread fan...@gmail.com

Tim Nelson a écrit :
[...]
> I did install their SDK and from what I can tell it's basically some 
> Groovy scripts that use Ant + Ivy.

Gradle perhaps ? http://www.gradle.org/


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[Lift] Re: Stax

2009-06-24 Thread Meredith Gregory
David,

Cool. About 6 weeks ago i started down the path of evaluating them, but saw
no free service and stopped; and then the GAE noise began.

Best wishes,

--greg

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:08 PM, David Pollak <
feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com> wrote:

> They will have a free level
>
> On Jun 24, 2009 11:46 AM, "Naftoli Gugenheim" 
> wrote:
>
> Anyone know what kind of pricing they have? Do they have a free level like
> GAE?
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, David Pollak <
> feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Timothy Perrett
>>  wrote: >> >> >> A...
>>
>> > Lift, the simply functional web framework http://liftweb.net >
>> Beginning Scala http://www.apress.c...
>>
>
> >
>


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[Lift] Re: Stax

2009-06-24 Thread David Pollak
They will have a free level

On Jun 24, 2009 11:46 AM, "Naftoli Gugenheim"  wrote:

Anyone know what kind of pricing they have? Do they have a free level like
GAE?

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, David Pollak <
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> > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Timothy Perrett
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[Lift] Re: Stax

2009-06-24 Thread Tim Nelson
Although it's not in the docs, they do have a Lift 1.0 template that's at:
http://stax-downloads.s3.amazonaws.com/app-templates/0.3/lift-1.0.zip

This is normally downloaded automatically by their SDK, but you can download
it directly if you want to see what's in it without installing the SDK.

I don't see any reason that one couldn't make a new Maven archetype that is
Stax compatible.

However, it appears that, currently, you are required to use their SDK to
deploy apps. This was intentional on their part as they were worried users
would be turned off if they tried to load existing apps and had problems
with them, since there are certain limitations. There are problems with
Grails apps at the moment because it has it's own build system that
conflicts with Stax's SDK and they are working on an API that would allow
using a separate build system that calls the Stax API for deployment. This
would probably allow for a Maven plugin to be built for deploying Stax apps.

There's more details in this post from their forum:
http://developer.stax.net/forum/topics/grails-help-me-and-i-can-help

I did install their SDK and from what I can tell it's basically some Groovy
scripts that use Ant + Ivy.

Tim

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:43 AM, David Pollak <
feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Timothy Perrett 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Agreed - this does really look very good... DPP, do you know how they
>> are doing the generation of applications? I guess they must have some
>> templating system and im just wondering if its something like our
>> existing archetypes and if they could be modified to become "stax
>> compatible" or whatever.
>
>
> I don't know, but this is a good question to ask them.
>
>
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Tim
>>
>> On Jun 24, 3:03 pm, "marius d."  wrote:
>> > Would be neat to have a Lift application template when creating a new
>> > stax app. And the fact they are using Amazon EC2 is really great.
>> >
>> > Br's,
>> > Marius
>> >
>> > On Jun 24, 4:53 pm, David Pollak 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Folks,
>> > > The folks in the ESME project have been hosting demo versions of ESME
>> onhttp://stax.net/
>> >
>> > > I had the pleasure of speaking with the CEO of
>> > > Stax yesterday.  I really like his vision of where he wants to take
>> > > Stax.  Plus, I think that Stax offers everything that GAE offers plus
>> > > a lot more flexibility and potential future growth.
>> >
>> > > One of the things I'm not so good with is figuring out the details of
>> > > what is needed for a given technology to be useful for an audience as
>> > > broad as the Lift community... I don't know what kinds of things are
>> > > necessary to have on the toolchain.
>> >
>> > > Could a few of you play with Stax and put together a list of stuff
>> you'd
>> > > like to see in Stax with respect to Lift.  Having that list will help
>> guide
>> > > the Stax folks to making Lift support even better.
>> >
>> > > Thanks,
>> >
>> > > David
>> >
>> > > --
>> > > Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net
>> > > Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
>> > > Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp
>> > > Git some:http://github.com/dpp
>>
>>
>
>
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[Lift] Re: Stax

2009-06-24 Thread Naftoli Gugenheim
Anyone know what kind of pricing they have? Do they have a free level like
GAE?

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, David Pollak <
feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Timothy Perrett 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Agreed - this does really look very good... DPP, do you know how they
>> are doing the generation of applications? I guess they must have some
>> templating system and im just wondering if its something like our
>> existing archetypes and if they could be modified to become "stax
>> compatible" or whatever.
>
>
> I don't know, but this is a good question to ask them.
>
>
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Tim
>>
>> On Jun 24, 3:03 pm, "marius d."  wrote:
>> > Would be neat to have a Lift application template when creating a new
>> > stax app. And the fact they are using Amazon EC2 is really great.
>> >
>> > Br's,
>> > Marius
>> >
>> > On Jun 24, 4:53 pm, David Pollak 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Folks,
>> > > The folks in the ESME project have been hosting demo versions of ESME
>> onhttp://stax.net/
>> >
>> > > I had the pleasure of speaking with the CEO of
>> > > Stax yesterday.  I really like his vision of where he wants to take
>> > > Stax.  Plus, I think that Stax offers everything that GAE offers plus
>> > > a lot more flexibility and potential future growth.
>> >
>> > > One of the things I'm not so good with is figuring out the details of
>> > > what is needed for a given technology to be useful for an audience as
>> > > broad as the Lift community... I don't know what kinds of things are
>> > > necessary to have on the toolchain.
>> >
>> > > Could a few of you play with Stax and put together a list of stuff
>> you'd
>> > > like to see in Stax with respect to Lift.  Having that list will help
>> guide
>> > > the Stax folks to making Lift support even better.
>> >
>> > > Thanks,
>> >
>> > > David
>> >
>> > > --
>> > > Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net
>> > > Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
>> > > Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp
>> > > Git some:http://github.com/dpp
>>
>>
>
>
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[Lift] Re: Stax

2009-06-24 Thread David Pollak
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Timothy Perrett wrote:

>
> Agreed - this does really look very good... DPP, do you know how they
> are doing the generation of applications? I guess they must have some
> templating system and im just wondering if its something like our
> existing archetypes and if they could be modified to become "stax
> compatible" or whatever.


I don't know, but this is a good question to ask them.


>
>
> Cheers, Tim
>
> On Jun 24, 3:03 pm, "marius d."  wrote:
> > Would be neat to have a Lift application template when creating a new
> > stax app. And the fact they are using Amazon EC2 is really great.
> >
> > Br's,
> > Marius
> >
> > On Jun 24, 4:53 pm, David Pollak 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Folks,
> > > The folks in the ESME project have been hosting demo versions of ESME
> onhttp://stax.net/
> >
> > > I had the pleasure of speaking with the CEO of
> > > Stax yesterday.  I really like his vision of where he wants to take
> > > Stax.  Plus, I think that Stax offers everything that GAE offers plus
> > > a lot more flexibility and potential future growth.
> >
> > > One of the things I'm not so good with is figuring out the details of
> > > what is needed for a given technology to be useful for an audience as
> > > broad as the Lift community... I don't know what kinds of things are
> > > necessary to have on the toolchain.
> >
> > > Could a few of you play with Stax and put together a list of stuff
> you'd
> > > like to see in Stax with respect to Lift.  Having that list will help
> guide
> > > the Stax folks to making Lift support even better.
> >
> > > Thanks,
> >
> > > David
> >
> > > --
> > > Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net
> > > Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
> > > Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp
> > > Git some:http://github.com/dpp
> >
>


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[Lift] Re: Stax

2009-06-24 Thread Timothy Perrett

Agreed - this does really look very good... DPP, do you know how they
are doing the generation of applications? I guess they must have some
templating system and im just wondering if its something like our
existing archetypes and if they could be modified to become "stax
compatible" or whatever.

Cheers, Tim

On Jun 24, 3:03 pm, "marius d."  wrote:
> Would be neat to have a Lift application template when creating a new
> stax app. And the fact they are using Amazon EC2 is really great.
>
> Br's,
> Marius
>
> On Jun 24, 4:53 pm, David Pollak 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Folks,
> > The folks in the ESME project have been hosting demo versions of ESME 
> > onhttp://stax.net/
>
> > I had the pleasure of speaking with the CEO of
> > Stax yesterday.  I really like his vision of where he wants to take
> > Stax.  Plus, I think that Stax offers everything that GAE offers plus
> > a lot more flexibility and potential future growth.
>
> > One of the things I'm not so good with is figuring out the details of
> > what is needed for a given technology to be useful for an audience as
> > broad as the Lift community... I don't know what kinds of things are
> > necessary to have on the toolchain.
>
> > Could a few of you play with Stax and put together a list of stuff you'd
> > like to see in Stax with respect to Lift.  Having that list will help guide
> > the Stax folks to making Lift support even better.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > David
>
> > --
> > Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net
> > Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
> > Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp
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[Lift] Re: Stax

2009-06-24 Thread David Pollak
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Mark Lynn  wrote:

>
> Can you use actors with Stax?
>

Yes.  And MySQL, so there's no persistence lock-in like with BigTable.


> My understanding was that GAE could not support actors.
>
> Mark Lynn
> Sabado Technologies
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:53 AM, David Pollak wrote:
>
> Folks,
> The folks in the ESME project have been hosting demo versions of ESME on
> http://stax.net/
>
> I had the pleasure of speaking with the CEO of
> Stax yesterday.  I really like his vision of where he wants to take Stax.  
> Plus, I think that Stax offers everything that GAE offers plus a lot more 
> flexibility and potential future growth.
>
>
> One of the things I'm not so good with is figuring out the details of what is 
> needed for a given technology to be useful for an audience as broad as the 
> Lift community... I don't know what kinds of things are necessary to have on 
> the toolchain.
>
> Could a few of you play with Stax and put together a list of stuff you'd
> like to see in Stax with respect to Lift.  Having that list will help guide
> the Stax folks to making Lift support even better.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>
> --
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> Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
> Follow me: http://twitter.com/dpp
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>
>
>
>
>
> >
>


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[Lift] Re: Stax

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Lynn

Can you use actors with Stax? My understanding was that GAE could not  
support actors.

Mark Lynn
Sabado Technologies


On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:53 AM, David Pollak wrote:

> Folks,
>
> The folks in the ESME project have been hosting demo versions of  
> ESME on http://stax.net/
>
> I had the pleasure of speaking with the CEO of Stax yesterday.  I  
> really like his vision of where he wants to take Stax.  Plus, I  
> think that Stax offers everything that GAE offers plus a lot more  
> flexibility and potential future growth.
>
> One of the things I'm not so good with is figuring out the details  
> of what is needed for a given technology to be useful for an  
> audience as broad as the Lift community... I don't know what kinds  
> of things are necessary to have on the toolchain.
>
> Could a few of you play with Stax and put together a list of stuff  
> you'd like to see in Stax with respect to Lift.  Having that list  
> will help guide the Stax folks to making Lift support even better.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>
> -- 
> Lift, the simply functional web framework http://liftweb.net
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[Lift] Re: Stax

2009-06-24 Thread marius d.

Would be neat to have a Lift application template when creating a new
stax app. And the fact they are using Amazon EC2 is really great.

Br's,
Marius

On Jun 24, 4:53 pm, David Pollak 
wrote:
> Folks,
> The folks in the ESME project have been hosting demo versions of ESME 
> onhttp://stax.net/
>
> I had the pleasure of speaking with the CEO of
> Stax yesterday.  I really like his vision of where he wants to take
> Stax.  Plus, I think that Stax offers everything that GAE offers plus
> a lot more flexibility and potential future growth.
>
> One of the things I'm not so good with is figuring out the details of
> what is needed for a given technology to be useful for an audience as
> broad as the Lift community... I don't know what kinds of things are
> necessary to have on the toolchain.
>
> Could a few of you play with Stax and put together a list of stuff you'd
> like to see in Stax with respect to Lift.  Having that list will help guide
> the Stax folks to making Lift support even better.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>
> --
> Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net
> Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
> Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp
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