### [Lift] Re: Wolfram Alpha integration for Lift

Hey Greg, Im not sure there is a description of exactly what is possible, but this video is probally the best example i've seen of what it can do: http://is.gd/10DWl Furthermore, probably checkout the api documentation as thats ultimately what we'll need to model - its a custom xml structure that has to be able to handle various responses. http://www.wolframalpha.com/developers.html What do you think? Cheers, Tim On Jun 13, 1:20 am, Meredith Gregory lgreg.mered...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, Thanks for the prompt. Can you point me to a description of what's possible with W|A? i can put together a draft that you can then rev. Best wishes, --greg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Lift group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

### [Lift] Re: Wolfram Alpha integration for Lift

Greg, If you have any thoughts on effective ways to model this query grammar id be interested in your thoughts :-) Cheers, Tim On Jun 11, 10:38 pm, Meredith Gregory lgreg.mered...@gmail.com wrote: All, Thanks for all this input. It certainly helps me see the value-prop better. Best wishes, --greg On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Kris Nuttycombe kris.nuttyco...@gmail.comwrote: I sort of see Wolfram Alpha as simply an incredibly sophisticated calculator instead of an information discovery tool. What were you trying to compute about polyadic pi-calculus? Alpha seems to be trying to put all sorts of different kinds of data into a common, hugely high-dimensional space so that you can perform computations on it, where your computations are expressed in a mix of mathematical and natural language. There are certainly a lot of things that it's not useful for yet, but it's a tremendously interesting problem. Kris On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Meredith Gregorylgreg.mered...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, Thanks for the response. i'll have to noodle on that one. Off the top of my head, i'm usually in this loop Initially, usually badly formulated question Get information sources Reformulate question Loop So, i don't really see much difference between the two, except by use. i will think about it, though. Best wishes, --greg -- L.G. Meredith Managing Partner Biosimilarity LLC 1219 NW 83rd St Seattle, WA 98117 +1 206.650.3740 http://biosimilarity.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Lift group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

### [Lift] Re: Wolfram Alpha integration for Lift

Tim, Thanks for the prompt. Can you point me to a description of what's possible with W|A? i can put together a draft that you can then rev. Best wishes, --greg On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.euwrote: Greg, If you have any thoughts on effective ways to model this query grammar id be interested in your thoughts :-) Cheers, Tim On Jun 11, 10:38 pm, Meredith Gregory lgreg.mered...@gmail.com wrote: All, Thanks for all this input. It certainly helps me see the value-prop better. Best wishes, --greg On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Kris Nuttycombe kris.nuttyco...@gmail.comwrote: I sort of see Wolfram Alpha as simply an incredibly sophisticated calculator instead of an information discovery tool. What were you trying to compute about polyadic pi-calculus? Alpha seems to be trying to put all sorts of different kinds of data into a common, hugely high-dimensional space so that you can perform computations on it, where your computations are expressed in a mix of mathematical and natural language. There are certainly a lot of things that it's not useful for yet, but it's a tremendously interesting problem. Kris On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Meredith Gregorylgreg.mered...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, Thanks for the response. i'll have to noodle on that one. Off the top of my head, i'm usually in this loop Initially, usually badly formulated question Get information sources Reformulate question Loop So, i don't really see much difference between the two, except by use. i will think about it, though. Best wishes, --greg -- L.G. Meredith Managing Partner Biosimilarity LLC 1219 NW 83rd St Seattle, WA 98117 +1 206.650.3740 http://biosimilarity.blogspot.com -- L.G. Meredith Managing Partner Biosimilarity LLC 1219 NW 83rd St Seattle, WA 98117 +1 206.650.3740 http://biosimilarity.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Lift group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

### [Lift] Re: Wolfram Alpha integration for Lift

Wolfram Alpha is WAY COOL ! I wish I could help but my spare time is problematic. Maybe I could help sporadically? Would you be ok with that? Br's, Marius On Jun 11, 7:02 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote: Hey chaps, Im going to start work on integration with the wolfram alpha engine that i've of late become most obsessed with as its the coolest thing since sliced bread...http://www.wolframalpha.com/ New branch here:http://github.com/dpp/liftweb/tree/wip-tim-wolframalpha Anyone else in the commit team interested in working on this with me? Cheers, Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Lift group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

### [Lift] Re: Wolfram Alpha integration for Lift

Sounds cool, I agree that there is much awesome in Alpha. How do you see this integration planning out? On Jun 11, 12:02 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote: Hey chaps, Im going to start work on integration with the wolfram alpha engine that i've of late become most obsessed with as its the coolest thing since sliced bread...http://www.wolframalpha.com/ New branch here:http://github.com/dpp/liftweb/tree/wip-tim-wolframalpha Anyone else in the commit team interested in working on this with me? Cheers, Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Lift group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

### [Lift] Re: Wolfram Alpha integration for Lift

Oh and people that are not Lift committers could potentially join? I'm sure there are lots of talents in Lift community. Br's, Marius On Jun 11, 7:02 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote: Hey chaps, Im going to start work on integration with the wolfram alpha engine that i've of late become most obsessed with as its the coolest thing since sliced bread...http://www.wolframalpha.com/ New branch here:http://github.com/dpp/liftweb/tree/wip-tim-wolframalpha Anyone else in the commit team interested in working on this with me? Cheers, Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Lift group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

### [Lift] Re: Wolfram Alpha integration for Lift

Hey Ty, Essentially the wolfram API is a REST / XMLRPC hybrid, so my plan is to model a scala abstraction around Apache HTTP (similar to the paypal integration) - speaking of which, i might actually abstract some of the common factories out of lift-paypal into lift-util if applicable. The interesting challenge will be that with wolfram, it can return a whole bunch of things, they could be graphs, text, sound - so i'll need some abstract way of making that presentable - perhaps some decoupled thing with a core communication group, then some lift specific abstractions for hooking into bind() or something... I've not figured it out yet in my head, so any thoughts are most welcome. Cheers, Tim On Jun 11, 6:16 pm, TylerWeir tyler.w...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds cool, I agree that there is much awesome in Alpha. How do you see this integration planning out? On Jun 11, 12:02 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote: Hey chaps, Im going to start work on integration with the wolfram alpha engine that i've of late become most obsessed with as its the coolest thing since sliced bread...http://www.wolframalpha.com/ New branch here:http://github.com/dpp/liftweb/tree/wip-tim-wolframalpha Anyone else in the commit team interested in working on this with me? Cheers, Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Lift group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

### [Lift] Re: Wolfram Alpha integration for Lift

Tim, Could you enlighten me on the coolness of Wolfram Alpha? My initial forays and comparison to Google were depressingly unfavorable, but excellent if you're looking for some humor. See the summary below. Best wishes, --greg My standard test of a search engine: polyadic pi-calculus Google result: first hit is the Edinburgh tutorial prepared by Milner, still the best reference Wolfram Alpha: *Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input. Related inputs to try: pi.* This test, by the way, should be right in W|A's sweet spot. My next test: phred weasley Google result: Did you mean: *fred* weasleyhttp://www.google.ca/search?hl=enclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialhs=ePUei=T0gxSvHvF8nRjAfzn5S2Bwsa=Xoi=spellresnum=0ct=resultcd=1q=fred+weasleyspell=1and then several links to Harry Potter W|A result: *Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input. Related inputs to try: Wesley.* My next test: fred weasley Google result: the top Harry Potter sites W|A result: Interpreting weasley as wesley -- -- Assuming Fred (female) | Use Fred (male)javascript:applyAssumption(1,'*DPClash.GivenNameE.fred-_*FredUnitedStatesMaleName-')instead -- -- -- Input interpretation:[image: Fred (female given name) | Wesley (male given name)] -- -- Latest information for US births:[image: | Fred | Wesley\nrank | 985th (1929) | 194th (2008)\nfraction | 1 in 21277 people (0.0047%) (1929) | 1 in 1058 people (0.094%) (2008)\nnumber | 54 people per year (1929) | 2033 people per year (2008)] -- -- History for US births:Log scalejavascript:asynchronousPod('pod.jsp?id=MSP41119646i0hb5a62fg04fe211d660aid2aas=61',%20'0300','fred+weasley','',0) Morejavascript:asynchronousPod('pod.jsp?id=MSP41219646i0hb5a62fg058i0506e54df6b4es=61',%20'0300','fred+weasley','',0) Fraction:[image: Fraction] On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.euwrote: Hey Ty, Essentially the wolfram API is a REST / XMLRPC hybrid, so my plan is to model a scala abstraction around Apache HTTP (similar to the paypal integration) - speaking of which, i might actually abstract some of the common factories out of lift-paypal into lift-util if applicable. The interesting challenge will be that with wolfram, it can return a whole bunch of things, they could be graphs, text, sound - so i'll need some abstract way of making that presentable - perhaps some decoupled thing with a core communication group, then some lift specific abstractions for hooking into bind() or something... I've not figured it out yet in my head, so any thoughts are most welcome. Cheers, Tim On Jun 11, 6:16 pm, TylerWeir tyler.w...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds cool, I agree that there is much awesome in Alpha. How do you see this integration planning out? On Jun 11, 12:02 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote: Hey chaps, Im going to start work on integration with the wolfram alpha engine that i've of late become most obsessed with as its the coolest thing since sliced bread...http://www.wolframalpha.com/ New branch here: http://github.com/dpp/liftweb/tree/wip-tim-wolframalpha Anyone else in the commit team interested in working on this with me? Cheers, Tim -- L.G. Meredith Managing Partner Biosimilarity LLC 1219 NW 83rd St Seattle, WA 98117 +1 206.650.3740 http://biosimilarity.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Lift group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

### [Lift] Re: Wolfram Alpha integration for Lift

Hey Greg, Im not sure that drawing comparisons to google is right? IMO, they dont do the same job...? I see why one would see similarities, but isnt google's purpose to find the sources of information, where as wolfram's aim is to provide an objective set of answers based on human input; http://www.wolframalpha.com/about.html Cheers, Tim On Jun 11, 7:14 pm, Meredith Gregory lgreg.mered...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, Could you enlighten me on the coolness of Wolfram Alpha? My initial forays and comparison to Google were depressingly unfavorable, but excellent if you're looking for some humor. See the summary below. Best wishes, --greg My standard test of a search engine: polyadic pi-calculus Google result: first hit is the Edinburgh tutorial prepared by Milner, still the best reference Wolfram Alpha: *Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input. Related inputs to try: pi.* This test, by the way, should be right in W|A's sweet spot. My next test: phred weasley Google result: Did you mean: *fred* weasleyhttp://www.google.ca/search?hl=enclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:en...and then several links to Harry Potter W|A result: *Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input. Related inputs to try: Wesley.* My next test: fred weasley Google result: the top Harry Potter sites W|A result: Interpreting weasley as wesley -- -- Assuming Fred (female) | Use Fred (male)javascript:applyAssumption(1,'*DPClash.GivenNameE.fred-_*FredUnitedS tatesMaleName-')instead -- -- -- Input interpretation:[image: Fred (female given name) | Wesley (male given name)] -- -- Latest information for US births:[image: | Fred | Wesley\nrank | 985th (1929) | 194th (2008)\nfraction | 1 in 21277 people (0.0047%) (1929) | 1 in 1058 people (0.094%) (2008)\nnumber | 54 people per year (1929) | 2033 people per year (2008)] -- -- History for US births:Log scalejavascript:asynchronousPod('pod.jsp?id=MSP41119646i0hb5a62fg04fe2 11d660aid2aas=61',%20'0300','fred+weasley','',0) Morejavascript:asynchronousPod('pod.jsp?id=MSP41219646i0hb5a62fg058i05 06e54df6b4es=61',%20'0300','fred+weasley','',0) Fraction:[image: Fraction] On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.euwrote: Hey Ty, Essentially the wolfram API is a REST / XMLRPC hybrid, so my plan is to model a scala abstraction around Apache HTTP (similar to the paypal integration) - speaking of which, i might actually abstract some of the common factories out of lift-paypal into lift-util if applicable. The interesting challenge will be that with wolfram, it can return a whole bunch of things, they could be graphs, text, sound - so i'll need some abstract way of making that presentable - perhaps some decoupled thing with a core communication group, then some lift specific abstractions for hooking into bind() or something... I've not figured it out yet in my head, so any thoughts are most welcome. Cheers, Tim On Jun 11, 6:16 pm, TylerWeir tyler.w...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds cool, I agree that there is much awesome in Alpha. How do you see this integration planning out? On Jun 11, 12:02 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote: Hey chaps, Im going to start work on integration with the wolfram alpha engine that i've of late become most obsessed with as its the coolest thing since sliced bread...http://www.wolframalpha.com/ New branch here: http://github.com/dpp/liftweb/tree/wip-tim-wolframalpha Anyone else in the commit team interested in working on this with me? Cheers, Tim -- L.G. Meredith Managing Partner Biosimilarity LLC 1219 NW 83rd St Seattle, WA 98117 +1 206.650.3740 http://biosimilarity.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Lift group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

### [Lift] Re: Wolfram Alpha integration for Lift

Tim, Thanks for the response. i'll have to noodle on that one. Off the top of my head, i'm usually in this loop - Initially, usually badly formulated question - Get information sources - Reformulate question - Loop So, i don't really see much difference between the two, except by use. i will think about it, though. Best wishes, --greg On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.euwrote: Hey Greg, Im not sure that drawing comparisons to google is right? IMO, they dont do the same job...? I see why one would see similarities, but isnt google's purpose to find the sources of information, where as wolfram's aim is to provide an objective set of answers based on human input; http://www.wolframalpha.com/about.html Cheers, Tim On Jun 11, 7:14 pm, Meredith Gregory lgreg.mered...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, Could you enlighten me on the coolness of Wolfram Alpha? My initial forays and comparison to Google were depressingly unfavorable, but excellent if you're looking for some humor. See the summary below. Best wishes, --greg My standard test of a search engine: polyadic pi-calculus Google result: first hit is the Edinburgh tutorial prepared by Milner, still the best reference Wolfram Alpha: *Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input. Related inputs to try: pi.* This test, by the way, should be right in W|A's sweet spot. My next test: phred weasley Google result: Did you mean: *fred* weasley http://www.google.ca/search?hl=enclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:en.. .and then several links to Harry Potter W|A result: *Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input. Related inputs to try: Wesley.* My next test: fred weasley Google result: the top Harry Potter sites W|A result: Interpreting weasley as wesley -- -- Assuming Fred (female) | Use Fred (male)javascript:applyAssumption(1,'*DPClash.GivenNameE.fred-_*FredUnitedS tatesMaleName-')instead -- -- -- Input interpretation:[image: Fred (female given name) | Wesley (male given name)] -- -- Latest information for US births:[image: | Fred | Wesley\nrank | 985th (1929) | 194th (2008)\nfraction | 1 in 21277 people (0.0047%) (1929) | 1 in 1058 people (0.094%) (2008)\nnumber | 54 people per year (1929) | 2033 people per year (2008)] -- -- History for US births:Log scalejavascript:asynchronousPod('pod.jsp?id=MSP41119646i0hb5a62fg04fe2 11d660aid2aas=61',%20'0300','fred+weasley','',0) Morejavascript:asynchronousPod('pod.jsp?id=MSP41219646i0hb5a62fg058i05 06e54df6b4es=61',%20'0300','fred+weasley','',0) Fraction:[image: Fraction] On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.euwrote: Hey Ty, Essentially the wolfram API is a REST / XMLRPC hybrid, so my plan is to model a scala abstraction around Apache HTTP (similar to the paypal integration) - speaking of which, i might actually abstract some of the common factories out of lift-paypal into lift-util if applicable. The interesting challenge will be that with wolfram, it can return a whole bunch of things, they could be graphs, text, sound - so i'll need some abstract way of making that presentable - perhaps some decoupled thing with a core communication group, then some lift specific abstractions for hooking into bind() or something... I've not figured it out yet in my head, so any thoughts are most welcome. Cheers, Tim On Jun 11, 6:16 pm, TylerWeir tyler.w...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds cool, I agree that there is much awesome in Alpha. How do you see this integration planning out? On Jun 11, 12:02 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote: Hey chaps, Im going to start work on integration with the wolfram alpha engine that i've of late become most obsessed with as its the coolest thing since sliced bread...http://www.wolframalpha.com/ New branch here: http://github.com/dpp/liftweb/tree/wip-tim-wolframalpha Anyone else in the commit team interested in working on this with me? Cheers, Tim -- L.G. Meredith Managing Partner Biosimilarity LLC 1219 NW 83rd St Seattle, WA 98117 +1 206.650.3740 http://biosimilarity.blogspot.com -- L.G. Meredith Managing Partner Biosimilarity LLC 1219 NW 83rd St Seattle, WA 98117 +1 206.650.3740 http://biosimilarity.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Lift group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

### [Lift] Re: Wolfram Alpha integration for Lift

I haven't played much with WolframAlpha, but I get the impression that it does better with quantitative results. For instance, if you were inclined to compare the number of people in Chicago to the number of people in Alaska you might create a query like this: http://www33.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=population+of+chicago+%2F+population+of+alaska Jeremy On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.euwrote: Hey Greg, Im not sure that drawing comparisons to google is right? IMO, they dont do the same job...? I see why one would see similarities, but isnt google's purpose to find the sources of information, where as wolfram's aim is to provide an objective set of answers based on human input; http://www.wolframalpha.com/about.html Cheers, Tim On Jun 11, 7:14 pm, Meredith Gregory lgreg.mered...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, Could you enlighten me on the coolness of Wolfram Alpha? My initial forays and comparison to Google were depressingly unfavorable, but excellent if you're looking for some humor. See the summary below. Best wishes, --greg My standard test of a search engine: polyadic pi-calculus Google result: first hit is the Edinburgh tutorial prepared by Milner, still the best reference Wolfram Alpha: *Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input. Related inputs to try: pi.* This test, by the way, should be right in W|A's sweet spot. My next test: phred weasley Google result: Did you mean: *fred* weasley http://www.google.ca/search?hl=enclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:en.. .and then several links to Harry Potter W|A result: *Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input. Related inputs to try: Wesley.* My next test: fred weasley Google result: the top Harry Potter sites W|A result: Interpreting weasley as wesley -- -- Assuming Fred (female) | Use Fred (male)javascript:applyAssumption(1,'*DPClash.GivenNameE.fred-_*FredUnitedS tatesMaleName-')instead -- -- -- Input interpretation:[image: Fred (female given name) | Wesley (male given name)] -- -- Latest information for US births:[image: | Fred | Wesley\nrank | 985th (1929) | 194th (2008)\nfraction | 1 in 21277 people (0.0047%) (1929) | 1 in 1058 people (0.094%) (2008)\nnumber | 54 people per year (1929) | 2033 people per year (2008)] -- -- History for US births:Log scalejavascript:asynchronousPod('pod.jsp?id=MSP41119646i0hb5a62fg04fe2 11d660aid2aas=61',%20'0300','fred+weasley','',0) Morejavascript:asynchronousPod('pod.jsp?id=MSP41219646i0hb5a62fg058i05 06e54df6b4es=61',%20'0300','fred+weasley','',0) Fraction:[image: Fraction] On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.euwrote: Hey Ty, Essentially the wolfram API is a REST / XMLRPC hybrid, so my plan is to model a scala abstraction around Apache HTTP (similar to the paypal integration) - speaking of which, i might actually abstract some of the common factories out of lift-paypal into lift-util if applicable. The interesting challenge will be that with wolfram, it can return a whole bunch of things, they could be graphs, text, sound - so i'll need some abstract way of making that presentable - perhaps some decoupled thing with a core communication group, then some lift specific abstractions for hooking into bind() or something... I've not figured it out yet in my head, so any thoughts are most welcome. Cheers, Tim On Jun 11, 6:16 pm, TylerWeir tyler.w...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds cool, I agree that there is much awesome in Alpha. How do you see this integration planning out? On Jun 11, 12:02 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote: Hey chaps, Im going to start work on integration with the wolfram alpha engine that i've of late become most obsessed with as its the coolest thing since sliced bread...http://www.wolframalpha.com/ New branch here: http://github.com/dpp/liftweb/tree/wip-tim-wolframalpha Anyone else in the commit team interested in working on this with me? Cheers, Tim -- L.G. Meredith Managing Partner Biosimilarity LLC 1219 NW 83rd St Seattle, WA 98117 +1 206.650.3740 http://biosimilarity.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Lift group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en

### [Lift] Re: Wolfram Alpha integration for Lift

I sort of see Wolfram Alpha as simply an incredibly sophisticated calculator instead of an information discovery tool. What were you trying to compute about polyadic pi-calculus? Alpha seems to be trying to put all sorts of different kinds of data into a common, hugely high-dimensional space so that you can perform computations on it, where your computations are expressed in a mix of mathematical and natural language. There are certainly a lot of things that it's not useful for yet, but it's a tremendously interesting problem. Kris On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Meredith Gregorylgreg.mered...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, Thanks for the response. i'll have to noodle on that one. Off the top of my head, i'm usually in this loop Initially, usually badly formulated question Get information sources Reformulate question Loop So, i don't really see much difference between the two, except by use. i will think about it, though. Best wishes, --greg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Lift group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

### [Lift] Re: Wolfram Alpha integration for Lift

All, Thanks for all this input. It certainly helps me see the value-prop better. Best wishes, --greg On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Kris Nuttycombe kris.nuttyco...@gmail.comwrote: I sort of see Wolfram Alpha as simply an incredibly sophisticated calculator instead of an information discovery tool. What were you trying to compute about polyadic pi-calculus? Alpha seems to be trying to put all sorts of different kinds of data into a common, hugely high-dimensional space so that you can perform computations on it, where your computations are expressed in a mix of mathematical and natural language. There are certainly a lot of things that it's not useful for yet, but it's a tremendously interesting problem. Kris On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Meredith Gregorylgreg.mered...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, Thanks for the response. i'll have to noodle on that one. Off the top of my head, i'm usually in this loop Initially, usually badly formulated question Get information sources Reformulate question Loop So, i don't really see much difference between the two, except by use. i will think about it, though. Best wishes, --greg -- L.G. Meredith Managing Partner Biosimilarity LLC 1219 NW 83rd St Seattle, WA 98117 +1 206.650.3740 http://biosimilarity.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Lift group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---