[Lift] Re: Is Lift the right tool for us?

2009-04-21 Thread Derek Chen-Becker
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Charles F. Munat wrote: > > In Rails I wrote an extensive library of CRUD functionality that I used > to build CRUD apps very quickly. My views were reduced to a few lines of > code, controllers even more so. For example, a controller that had 350 > lines of code

[Lift] Re: Is Lift the right tool for us?

2009-04-21 Thread Charles F. Munat
Jeppe Nejsum Madsen wrote: > Do you think you'll surpass your Rails speed? If yes, can you explain > what elements contribute to this? I'm not sure, but I think so. Then again, it's difficult to say, because I'm doing more. There is definitely a bit less boilerplate for me with Lift, but not

[Lift] Re: Is Lift the right tool for us?

2009-04-21 Thread Timothy Perrett
I too used to do a lot of rails dev... Granted my lift apps take me *slightly* longer to produce, but only by a bit. However, they do take a lot less time to deploy and maintain because my platform is not leaking like the proverbial rusty bucket ;-) Cheers, Tim On 21/04/2009 20:15, "Jeppe Nejsu

[Lift] Re: Is Lift the right tool for us?

2009-04-21 Thread Clemens Oertel
> If your project is more than a simple app (as I'm certain it is), I > would go with JPA. Record is not ready yet, and Mapper is pretty > limited. For example, AFAIK Mapper doesn't do many-to-many > associations. > I've had a lot of success with JPA/Hibernate, and it's getting pretty > solid in

[Lift] Re: Is Lift the right tool for us?

2009-04-21 Thread Jeppe Nejsum Madsen
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Charles F. Munat wrote: > > Yeah, it's always "nice to get some"... :-) > > As a former Rails developer, I'll say this: I don't think I'm yet quite > as fast in Lift as I was in Rails, but I'm getting there. A lot of this > has had to do with switching mindset fro

[Lift] Re: Is Lift the right tool for us?

2009-04-21 Thread Jeppe Nejsum Madsen
Thanks for the swift reponse. A few comments inline On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 7:51 PM, David Pollak wrote: [...] > I don't know Lift/Scala either but I've always liked the clean, simple >> syntax of SML (did a fair share of SML programming back in the CS classes >> :-), so FP is not uncommon to

[Lift] Re: Is Lift the right tool for us?

2009-04-21 Thread Charles F. Munat
Yeah, it's always "nice to get some"... :-) As a former Rails developer, I'll say this: I don't think I'm yet quite as fast in Lift as I was in Rails, but I'm getting there. A lot of this has had to do with switching mindset from Ruby to a more Java-ish approach. For you, as a Java developer,

[Lift] Re: Is Lift the right tool for us?

2009-04-21 Thread David Pollak
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Jeppe Nejsum Madsen wrote: > Hello, > > I've been lurking on this list for a while and trying out small things with > Lift/Scala but thought I would ask the more experienced people around here > before digging much deeper. First some background: > > I've been writi