Re: [Lightning-dev] Peer Selection

2017-12-13 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning Stan, Money is safe when network is down only if you only pay out of your node. Once you receive, it is possible for your counterparty to transmit an invalid old state where it owns more money than you do. Then you need to monitor the blockchain for invalid closings of channel st

Re: [Lightning-dev] Peer selection

2017-12-13 Thread William Casarin
ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev writes: > Good morning Stan, > >>How to I discover nodes - is there any UI to see nodes currently >>running on the network ? > > There are no UIs to my knowledge. Current LN programs keep track of this in > their databases, although each one varies in detail. Presumab

Re: [Lightning-dev] Peer Selection

2017-12-13 Thread Stan Kladko
Thank you - this is lots of information !) > You would also have to make your outgoing channels private (not sent by node > gossip) so that others will not route through you. If I would have only a single outgoing channel I would not have to make it private ? Correct? There is no way to route t

Re: [Lightning-dev] Peer selection

2017-12-13 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning Stan, The protocol allows nodes to be behind Tor hidden services (.onion domain names). Tor hidden services automatically have NAT punching and firewall traversal, as long as the firewall allows Tor protocol to go through. I do not know if there are already LN software that actual

Re: [Lightning-dev] Peer Selection

2017-12-13 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning, >>If you have a reason to open a channel to an arbitrary node, then other nodes >>have a reason to open a channel to an arbitrary node, which might be you. >>Even if the >network grows large, that > also means there are more participants who might >decide, via whatever heuristic,

Re: [Lightning-dev] Peer selection

2017-12-13 Thread Stan Kladko
Thank you Presumably many nodes will be behind firewalls. Are there any firewall traversal mechanisms included (or some type of an overlay network)?) On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 2:53 PM, ZmnSCPxj wrote: > Good morning Stan, > >>How to I discover nodes - is there any UI to see nodes currently >>r

Re: [Lightning-dev] Peer selection

2017-12-13 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning Stan, >How to I discover nodes - is there any UI to see nodes currently >running on the network ? There are no UIs to my knowledge. Current LN programs keep track of this in their databases, although each one varies in detail. Presumably their individual main developers know how to

Re: [Lightning-dev] Lightning-dev Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9

2017-12-13 Thread Stan Kladko
> If you have a reason to open a channel to an arbitrary node, then other nodes > have a reason to open a channel to an arbitrary node, which might be you. > Even if the network grows large, that > also means there are more > participants who might decide, via whatever heuristic, to channel to

Re: [Lightning-dev] Peer selection

2017-12-13 Thread Stan Kladko
I see - thank you. How to I discover nodes - is there any UI to see nodes currently running on the network ? > 3. How do I find out if someone wants to connect to me? > The node connects to yours and sends channel funding messages. In this case there is some kind of an UI where I can accept or