Re: [Lightning-dev] LN Summit 2023 Notes

2023-08-03 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 02:42:29PM -0400, Clara Shikhelman wrote: > > A different way of thinking about the monetary approach is in terms of > > scaling rather than deterrance: that is, try to make the cost that the > > attacker pays sufficient to scale up your node/the network so that you > >

Re: [Lightning-dev] LN Summit 2023 Notes

2023-08-02 Thread Clara Shikhelman
Hi AJ, A different way of thinking about the monetary approach is in terms of > scaling rather than deterrance: that is, try to make the cost that the > attacker pays sufficient to scale up your node/the network so that you > continue to have excess capacity to serve regular users. > > In that

Re: [Lightning-dev] LN Summit 2023 Notes

2023-07-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 09:56:11AM -0400, Carla Kirk-Cohen wrote: > Thanks to everyone who traveled far, Wolf for hosting us in style in > NYC and to Michael Levin for helping out with notes <3 Thanks for the notes! Couple of comments: > - What is the “top of mempool” assumption? FWIW, I think

Re: [Lightning-dev] LN Summit 2023 Notes

2023-07-26 Thread Antoine Riard
Hi Zeeman, > A proposal I made in the Signal group after the summit would be to not use MuSig2 signing for commitment transactions (== unilateral closes). > Instead, we add a tapscript branch that is just ` OP_CHECKSIGVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG` and use that for unilateral closes. > We only sign with

Re: [Lightning-dev] LN Summit 2023 Notes

2023-07-25 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
> > - For taproot/musig2 we need nonces: > > - Today we store the commitment signature from the remote party. We don’t > > need to store our own signature - we can sign at time of broadcast. > > - To be able to sign you need the verification nonce - you could remember > > it, or you could use

[Lightning-dev] LN Summit 2023 Notes

2023-07-19 Thread Carla Kirk-Cohen
Hi List, At the end of June we got together in NYC for the annual specification meeting. This time around we made an attempt at taking transcript-style notes which are available here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MZhAH82YLEXWz4bTnSQcdTQ03FpH4JpukK9Pm7V02bk/edit?usp=sharing . To decrease