Re: [Lightning-dev] [VERY ROUGH DRAFT] BOLT 12: Offers

2019-11-10 Thread Rusty Russell
Yaacov Akiba Slama writes: > Hi Rusty. > > On 08/11/2019 05:09, Rusty Russell wrote: >> Hi Yaacov, >> I've been pondering this since reading your comment on the PR! >> >> As a fan of standards, I am attracted to UBL (I've chaired an >> OASIS TC in the past and have great respect

Re: [Lightning-dev] [VERY ROUGH DRAFT] BOLT 12: Offers

2019-11-10 Thread Rusty Russell
Ross Dyson writes: > Hi Rusty, > > We spoke in detail about this after your presentation at LNconf. I'm one of > the contributors to LNURL so I am a little familiar with what you're trying > to achieve and am very grateful you're considering implementing something > similar to the mainnet

[Lightning-dev] Data Lightning Atomic Swap (DLAS-down, DLAS-up)

2019-11-10 Thread Takaya Imai
Hi all, I propose Data Lightning Atomic Swap. Anyone already have the same idea? [Abstract] This proposal is a way to swap data and lightning payment atomically. It has two patterns, one is for a payer to swap data-download with lightning payment to a payee (DLAS-down), the other is for a payer

Re: [Lightning-dev] A proposal for up-front payments.

2019-11-10 Thread Rusty Russell
Anthony Towns writes: > On Fri, Nov 08, 2019 at 01:08:04PM +1030, Rusty Russell wrote: >> Anthony Towns writes: >> [ Snip summary, which is correct ] > > Huzzah! > > This correlates all the hops in a payment when the route reaches its end > (due to the final preimage getting propogated back for