Re: [Lightning-dev] Can I try Lightning without running a fully-fledged bitcoin block chain?

2018-03-30 Thread Christian Decker
Dear Mahesh,

as interesting as the discussion of alternative blockchain storage it,
it is probably off-topic for the Lightning mailing list. So I'd suggest
taking this discussion to either the bitcoin-dev or bitcoin-core-dev
mailing lists.

Cheers,
Christian

Mahesh Govind  writes:
> Could we use similar technique used in hyperledger to prune the chain .
> Pruning based on consensus ?
> -mahesh
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 10:30 AM, ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev <
> lightning-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Good morning Segue,
>>
>> Please consider creating an implementation of this idea for bitcoind and
>> share it on bitcoin-dev.  Then please make a pull request on
>> github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin for this.
>>
>> Regards,
>> ZmnSCPxj
>>
>>
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>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>> On March 27, 2018 11:26 AM, Segue <012mist...@frankentrikes.com> wrote:
>>
>> Developers,
>>
>>
>> On THIS note and slightly off-topic but relevant, why can't chunks of
>> blockchain peel off the backend periodically and be archived, say on
>> minimum of 150 computers across 7 continents?
>>
>> It seems crazy to continue adding on to an increasingly long chain to
>> infinity if the old chapters (i.e. more than, say, 2 years old) could be
>> stored in an evenly distributed manner across the planet.  The same 150
>> computers would not need to store every chapter either, just the index
>> would need to be widely distributed in order to reconnect with a chapter if
>> needed.
>>
>> Then maybe it is no longer a limitation in the future for people like
>> Yubin.
>>
>> Segue
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/26/18 6:12 PM, lightning-dev-requ...@lists.linuxfoundation.org wrote:
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 11:56:05 +0100
>> From: Federico Tenga  
>> To: Yubin Ruan  
>> Cc: lightning-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
>> Subject: Re: [Lightning-dev] Can I try Lightning without running a
>>  fully-fledged bitcoin block chain?
>> Message-ID:
>>  

Re: [Lightning-dev] Lightning network implementation with ethereum

2018-03-30 Thread Christian Decker
Dear Mahesh,

that's a very interesting question, to be best of my knowledge there is
no working implementation for Ethereum and I don't think anybody is
working on one currently. There is the Raiden network attempt at porting
a Lightning-like network to Ethereum, but I'm not sure what the current
status of that project is.

A direct port is probably not possible due to the differences in the
underlying blockchain, but a Lightning-like network is definitely
possible.

Cheers,
Christian

Mahesh Govind  writes:
> Dear Experts,
>
> Could you please let me know the implementation I could use with ethereum  .
>
> With thanks and regards
> mahesh
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