[Lightning-dev] [META] Mailing list move

2019-03-15 Thread Rusty Russell
Hi all, Linux Foundation (who graciously host this list for us) is deprecating their mailing list infrastructure (mailman2 is unmaintained, apparently v3 is a mess), and migrating lists to groups.io. Apparently this is the direction that bitcoin-dev is heading. Unless people raise concer

Re: [Lightning-dev] Potential Privacy issue with dual funded channels

2019-03-15 Thread Omar Shibli
Hello Rene, Sorry for hijacking this thread, but I would suggest another route to tackle privacy and liquidity issues in general. At the moment, it seems that there are no taking advantage of off-chain settlement protocols, the idea is based on Schnorr signatures. The general theme is build progr

Re: [Lightning-dev] Potential Privacy issue with dual funded channels

2019-03-15 Thread lisa neigut
Hello Rene, This is a legitimate concern. Thank you for raising it. I have three suggestions for how to mitigate this. The first is to return a non-specific error message which, while in the aggregate might be used to approximate a nodes’ uncommitted balance, would at least offer plausible denia

[Lightning-dev] Potential Privacy issue with dual funded channels

2019-03-15 Thread René Pickhardt via Lightning-dev
Hey everyone, during the spec meeting we have discussed intensively about dual funded channels and potential game theory with the fees however I now believe that we missed out another important crucial part which is the privacy of the node providing liquidity. While I have not seen a concrete exa