Re: [Lightning-dev] Using Per-Update Credential to enable Eltoo-Penalty

2019-07-16 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning Antoine, > Biggest gains with Eltoo are of course transaction symmetry and removing > toxic waste. Reintroducing penalty on top of > this shouldn't affect this two goals, I agree with Christian that introducing penalty introduces toxic waste. Inadvertent misuse of a backup of an

Re: [Lightning-dev] Using Per-Update Credential to enable Eltoo-Penalty

2019-07-16 Thread Antoine Riard
Hi ZmnSCPxj, Awesome resume, it's better lay-out than I did myself !! > Thus, I would like to thank you for your tolerance and continued attention. Personally, it's a pleasure to read your weird but always thoughtful proposals in other threads :) "We have identified two requirements: 1. We

Re: [Lightning-dev] Using Per-Update Credential to enable Eltoo-Penalty

2019-07-16 Thread Antoine Riard
Hi ZmnSCPxj, > Just a minor correction here: your own commitment transactions are not > being signed until we want to release them. Therefore having access to > your DB doesn't give an attacker the ability to frame the user with an > old version, since that'd still require access to the keys to