Re: [Lightning-dev] A Mobile Lightning User Goes to Pay a Mobile Lightning User...

2021-10-13 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning Matt, > On 10/13/21 02:58, ZmnSCPxj wrote: > > > Good morning Matt, > > > > > The Obvious (tm) solution here is PTLCs - just have the sender > > > always add some random nonce * G to > > > the PTLC they're paying and send the recipient a random nonce in the > > > onion. I'

Re: [Lightning-dev] A Mobile Lightning User Goes to Pay a Mobile Lightning User...

2021-10-13 Thread Matt Corallo
On 10/13/21 02:58, ZmnSCPxj wrote: Good morning Matt, The Obvious (tm) solution here is PTLCs - just have the sender always add some random nonce * G to the PTLC they're paying and send the recipient a random nonce in the onion. I'd generally suggest we just go ahead and do

Re: [Lightning-dev] A Mobile Lightning User Goes to Pay a Mobile Lightning User...

2021-10-13 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning Matt, > The Obvious (tm) solution here is PTLCs - just have the sender always add > some random nonce * G to > the PTLC they're paying and send the recipient a random nonce in the > onion. I'd generally suggest we > just go ahead and do this for every PTLC payment, caus

Re: [Lightning-dev] Deriving channel keys deterministically from seed, musig, and channel establishment v2

2021-10-13 Thread Lloyd Fournier
Hi SomberNight, I started a similar discussion less than a year ago on the list. The idea I put forward works fine with MuSig and taproot. https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2020-December/002907.html The idea was considered for channel establishment v2 but in the end there