On 12/2/21 21:59, Rusty Russell wrote:
Matt Corallo writes:
In bolt12, we have the additional problem for the tipping case: each
invoice contains an amount, so you can't preprint amountless invoices.
(This plugs a hole in bolt11 for this case, where you get a receipt but
no amount!).
However
Matt Corallo writes:
> The Obvious (tm) solution here is PTLCs - just have the sender always add
> some random nonce * G to
> the PTLC they're paying and send the recipient a random nonce in the onion.
> I'd generally suggest we
> just go ahead and do this for every PTLC payment, cause why not
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 04:51, Bastien TEINTURIER wrote:
>
> I like this proposal, it's a net improvement compared to hodling HTLCs
> at the recipient's LSP. With onion messages, we do have all the tools we
> need to build this. I don't think we can do much better than that anyway
> if we want to
Hi Matt,
I like this proposal, it's a net improvement compared to hodling HTLCs
at the recipient's LSP. With onion messages, we do have all the tools we
need to build this. I don't think we can do much better than that anyway
if we want to keep payments fully non-custodial. This will be combined
w
Good morning Matt,
> On 10/13/21 02:58, ZmnSCPxj wrote:
>
> > Good morning Matt,
> >
> > > The Obvious (tm) solution here is PTLCs - just have the sender
> > > always add some random nonce * G to
> > > the PTLC they're paying and send the recipient a random nonce in the
> > > onion. I'
On 10/13/21 02:58, ZmnSCPxj wrote:
Good morning Matt,
The Obvious (tm) solution here is PTLCs - just have the sender always add
some random nonce * G to
the PTLC they're paying and send the recipient a random nonce in the
onion. I'd generally suggest we
just go ahead and do
Good morning Matt,
> The Obvious (tm) solution here is PTLCs - just have the sender always add
> some random nonce * G to
> the PTLC they're paying and send the recipient a random nonce in the
> onion. I'd generally suggest we
> just go ahead and do this for every PTLC payment, caus
On 10/12/21 22:08, Andrés G. Aragoneses wrote:
Hello Matt, can you clarify what you mean with this particular paragraph?:
But for some reason those pesky users keep wanting to use lightning for
tips, or at least accept
payment on their phones without keeping them unlocked with the lig
Hello Matt, can you clarify what you mean with this particular paragraph?:
But for some reason those pesky users keep wanting to use lightning for
> tips, or at least accept
> payment on their phones without keeping them unlocked with the lightning
> app open on the foreground
> 24/7.
So the use
I'm sure most of y'all are familiar with this problem by now - a lightning user on a phone trying to
pay another lightning user on a phone requires some amount of coordination to ensure the sender and
recipient are, roughly, online at the same time.
Invoices provide this somewhat today by requi
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