Re: [Lightning-dev] Continuing the discussion about noinput / anyprevout

2019-10-03 Thread Christian Decker
Chris Stewart writes: >> I don't find too compelling the potential problem of a 'bad wallet > designer', whether lazy or dogmatic, misusing noinput. I think there are > simpler ways to cut corners and there will always be plenty of good wallet > options people can choose. > > In my original

Re: [Lightning-dev] Continuing the discussion about noinput / anyprevout

2019-10-01 Thread Chris Stewart
> I don't find too compelling the potential problem of a 'bad wallet designer', whether lazy or dogmatic, misusing noinput. I think there are simpler ways to cut corners and there will always be plenty of good wallet options people can choose. In my original post, the business that I am talking

Re: [Lightning-dev] Continuing the discussion about noinput / anyprevout

2019-10-01 Thread Ethan Heilman
>I don't find too compelling the potential problem of a 'bad wallet designer', >whether lazy or dogmatic, misusing noinput. I think there are simpler ways to >cut corners and there will always be plenty of good wallet options people can >choose. I want to second this. The most expensive part

Re: [Lightning-dev] Continuing the discussion about noinput / anyprevout

2019-10-01 Thread Richard Myers
Thanks Christian for pulling together this concise summary. 1. General agreement on the usefulness of noinput / anyprevoutanyscript / > anyprevout. > I certainly support the unification and adoption of the sighash_noinput and anyprevoutput* proposals to enable eltoo, but also to make

[Lightning-dev] Continuing the discussion about noinput / anyprevout

2019-09-30 Thread Christian Decker
With the recently renewed interest in eltoo, a proof-of-concept implementation [1], and the discussions regarding clean abstractions for off-chain protocols [2,3], I thought it might be time to revisit the `sighash_noinput` proposal (BIP-118 [4]), and AJ's `bip-anyprevout` proposal [5]. (sorry