Re: [Lightning-dev] Improving payment UX with low-latency route probing

2018-11-06 Thread Pierre
Hi Laolu and Fabrice, > I think HORNET would address this rather nicely! HORNET sounds awesome, but does it really address the specific issue Fabrice is describing though? IIUC, HORNET would operate at a lower layer and it could be possible to have a valid circuit and still indefinitely waiting

Re: [Lightning-dev] Improving payment UX with low-latency route probing

2018-11-06 Thread Olaoluwa Osuntokun
Hi Fabrice, I think HORNET would address this rather nicely! During the set up phase (which uses Sphinx), the sender is able to get a sense of if the route is actually "lively" or not, as the circuit can't be finalized if all the nodes aren't available. Additionally, during the set up phase, the

[Lightning-dev] Improving payment UX with low-latency route probing

2018-10-31 Thread Fabrice Drouin
Context == Sent payments that remain pending, i.e. payments which have not yet been failed or fulfilled, are currently a major UX challenge for LN and a common source of complaints from end-users. Why payments are not fulfilled quickly is not always easy to investigate, but we've seen