[Lightning-dev] Jamming Mitigation Call Summary - 03/06

2023-03-14 Thread Carla Kirk-Cohen
Hi list, Writing with a summary from our latest jamming mitigations call. Full transcript is available at [1]. Details for the next call: * Tuesday 21 March @ 17:00 UTC - *please note change of day/time* * https://meet.jit.si/UnjammingLN * Agenda: https://github.com/ClaraShk/LNJamming/issues/9

[Lightning-dev] Jamming Mitigation Call Today

2023-03-06 Thread Clara Shikhelman
Hi List, A reminder that we've got another jamming call coming up today at 19:00 UTC. Monday 06 Mar 19:00 UTC https://meet.jit.si/UnjammingLN Feel free to add additional agenda items here: https://github.com/ClaraShk/LNJamming/issues/ 5 See you

[Lightning-dev] Jamming Mitigation Call 02/20

2023-02-19 Thread Carla Kirk-Cohen
Hi List, A reminder that we've got another jamming call coming up tomorrow. Monday 20 Feb 19:00 UTC https://meet.jit.si/UnjammingLN We'll be talking about local reputation scoring. Feel free to add additional agenda items here: https://github.com/ClaraShk/LNJamming/issues/4 Cheers, Carla and

Re: [Lightning-dev] Jamming Mitigation Call Summary - 02/06

2023-02-13 Thread Clara Shikhelman
Hi Vincent, Thanks to write this down, do you think that it is a good idea > to make a public google calendar (or other kind of shared calendar)? > Let's try this out:

Re: [Lightning-dev] Jamming Mitigation Call Summary - 02/06

2023-02-11 Thread Vincenzo Palazzo
On Wed Feb 8, 2023 at 9:17 PM CET, Carla Kirk-Cohen wrote: > Hi list, > > Unfortunately we had some technical issues with the recording for > Monday's call so we're going to have to rely on my memory (a severely > corrupted data store). Thankfully, Clara jotted down some notes as well, > but

[Lightning-dev] Jamming Mitigation Call Summary - 02/06

2023-02-08 Thread Carla Kirk-Cohen
Hi list, Unfortunately we had some technical issues with the recording for Monday's call so we're going to have to rely on my memory (a severely corrupted data store). Thankfully, Clara jotted down some notes as well, but please chime in if you attended and we've missed something out! Details

Re: [Lightning-dev] Jamming Mitigation Call Summary - 01/23

2023-02-04 Thread Antoine Riard
Hi Clara, > * They will likely require a network wide upgrade: when a sender >makes a payment, the full path will need to understand the new >feature bit for it to be used. I believe the upgradeability dimension is different both for circuit breaker and staking credentials --

Re: [Lightning-dev] Jamming Mitigation Call Summary - 01/23

2023-01-31 Thread Antoine Riard
(Reply 2/2) > * Whether we should look into a more complicated approach that >includes a "proof of forward" secret in the next node's onion which >must be supplied to claim the upfront fee. One of the hard things with a "proof of forward" is a hop colluding with the next counterparty

Re: [Lightning-dev] Jamming Mitigation Call Summary - 01/23

2023-01-31 Thread Antoine Riard
Hi Clara, (Reply 1/2 - Apparently there is a limit of 80KB on Lightning mailing post) > * They will likely require a network wide upgrade: when a sender >makes a payment, the full path will need to understand the new >feature bit for it to be used. I believe the upgradeability

[Lightning-dev] Jamming Mitigation Call Summary - 01/23

2023-01-30 Thread Carla Kirk-Cohen
Hi list, On Monday last week we resumed our fortnightly channel jamming mitigation calls for 2023. Details for the next call: * Monday 02/06 @ 18:00 UTC * https://meet.jit.si/UnjammingLN * Agenda: https://github.com/ClaraShk/LNJamming/issues/2 # Meeting Summary This email attempts to summarize

[Lightning-dev] Jamming mitigation call for 2023

2023-01-18 Thread Clara Shikhelman
Hi All, Time to bring back the anti-jamming discussions! Our next call will be on January 23rd at 6 pm UTC (notice the time change) at the usual place: https://meet.jit.si/UnjammingLN. A draft of the agenda is available here: https://github.com/ClaraShk/LNJamming/issues/1 Please feel free to

Re: [Lightning-dev] Jamming mitigation call

2022-12-09 Thread Loki Verloren via Lightning-dev
Re: [Lightning-dev] Jamming mitigation call > Message-ID: > CALZpt+GsNhZcv1u6_hjgt=1WpGE0nE5ygqHN3EUhjHTO9T=y...@mail.gmail.com > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Clara, > > Thanks for rolling the ball forward. > > On the agenda, a few

Re: [Lightning-dev] Jamming mitigation call

2022-12-08 Thread Clara Shikhelman
Hi Antoine, Thanks for your input. The first item is there because we agreed to start where we left off at the end of the last meeting. About your comments on the other items – I think they are very interesting, but you should probably write them in the relevant thread. Let's keep this for

Re: [Lightning-dev] Jamming mitigation call

2022-12-08 Thread Antoine Riard
Hi Clara, Thanks for rolling the ball forward. On the agenda, a few more thoughts. > 1. Which parameters should be considered in reputation-based solutions? I think before thinking about the parameters of reputation-based solutions, we should discuss the security goal we're aiming to achieve

Re: [Lightning-dev] Jamming mitigation call

2022-12-08 Thread Clara Shikhelman
Hi all, The agenda for next week's meeting (Monday the 12th, 7 pm UTC) is the following: 1. Which parameters should be considered in reputation-based solutions? 2. Circuitbreaker [1] 3. Onion relay network [2] and its potential uses. The link to the call: https://meet.jit.si/UnjammingLN See

[Lightning-dev] Jamming mitigation call

2022-11-27 Thread Clara Shikhelman
Hi all, In light of recent conversations ([1],[2]), the agenda for the call tomorrow (Monday the 28th, 7 pm UTC) is roughly the following: 1. Overview of solutions under discussion 2. Reputation (local/tokens) 3. Fees This is the link to the call: https://meet.jit.si/UnjammingLN See you there,