Re: Catching up on bugs

2009-12-25 Thread James Bailey
On 24.12.2009, at 23:57, Joe Neeman wrote: profile-property-access.ly errors and fails when I try to compile it. Additionally, the properties shown in the output are all 0 You need to configure with --disable-optimising in order for property access profiling to work. Okay, since I can't

Re: Catching up on bugs

2009-12-25 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:25 AM, James Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.com wrote: On 24.12.2009, at 23:57, Joe Neeman wrote: profile-property-access.ly errors and fails when I try to compile it. Additionally, the properties shown in the output are all 0 You need to configure with

Re: lilypond-book is hosed

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 20:52 +, Graham Percival a écrit : I can now confirm that the regtest comparison is done on the files in input/regression/out-test/ , which are created via make test. More precisely, the comparison is done between input/regression/out-test/ and

Re: lilypond-book is hosed

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 19:30 +, Graham Percival a écrit : Ah, we're talking about two different kinds of hashes. One hash decides if the snippet should be (re)processed -- I don't care about that one. Do whatever seems sensible for that. The other kind of hashing produces the

Re: New template for 'lilypond' made available

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 08:52 +0100, Erwin Poeze a écrit : Sorry, about this. It was done by me, the TP coordinator. I have the habit of checking for newer domain versions on an irregular base and noticed that the 2.13.7 was newer that the 2.13.3 version in the TP. Getting new versions

Re: lilypond-book is hosed

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 10:18 -0800, Patrick McCarty a écrit : Thank you for noticing this, John. I'll admit I did not think through the issue carefully enough when I made that commit. I'm not qualified to comment on your patch to fix the issue, but I trust your judgment here. OK, so

Re: lilypond-book is hosed

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 22:21 +0100, Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit : I would definitely like that option. Every now and then, when working with lilypond-book based projects, I also need to send e.g. an image per mail or insert an image into some word-processing app. In these cases, such an

Re: @insertcopying

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 21:17 +, Graham Percival a écrit : commit 6c1cdaa331972442a8fd62d98da5adebfaa9a17b I thought that texinfo macros were supposed to have a {} after them -- I mean, it's not /required/ for arguments without any macros, but...? ..but see Texi2HTML warnings if

Re: New template for 'lilypond' made available

2009-12-25 Thread Erwin Poeze
Best wishes to you and the development team as well! Op vrijdag 25-12-2009 om 11:13 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef John Mandereau: Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 08:52 +0100, Erwin Poeze a écrit : Sorry, about this. It was done by me, the TP coordinator. I have the habit of checking for newer

(not) factorizing xref macro definitions [was Re: [PATCH] Update announcement]

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 10 décembre 2009 à 15:50 +, Graham Percival a écrit : Ok. Let's just agree to disagree: you think it's important, but I don't think it's important. If somebody (be it you or Denes) writes a patch, I'm willing to test it on GUB. I just tried factorizing French macro definitions

Re: @insertcopying

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:22:21AM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 21:17 +, Graham Percival a écrit : commit 6c1cdaa331972442a8fd62d98da5adebfaa9a17b I thought that texinfo macros were supposed to have a {} after them -- I mean, it's not /required/ for

Re: @insertcopying

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 14:29 +, Graham Percival a écrit : ..but see Texi2HTML warnings if @insertcopying{} is used. I know about those warnings. Then, why the mao do you waste our time with this thread? :-) I guess that in this case, it doesn't really matter. Indeed, this is

Re: @insertcopying

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 03:54:06PM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 14:29 +, Graham Percival a écrit : ..but see Texi2HTML warnings if @insertcopying{} is used. I know about those warnings. Then, why the mao do you waste our time with this thread? :-) I

Re: @insertcopying

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 14:57 +, Graham Percival a écrit : I was wondering if I was wrong about texinfo. It's been known to happen. Texinfo is not a well-defined language, it's defined only by what the formatters support and to some extent by Texinfo manual, so it's practically

Re: New LilyPond Spanish Users list at GNU

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: On 12/23/09 5:37 PM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote:   Ask the LilyPond mantainer to create the list in their project. So all we need to do is get Graham, Jan, or Han-Wen to add a list lilypond-es.  I

Re: New LilyPond Spanish Users list at GNU

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:  But before we do this, I'd like to settle a few questions: Oops, I forgot to add 3) Given that there's some kind of problems with accents with savannah lists (I haven't grasped what it is, but read

Re: lilypond-book is hosed

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:02:03AM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 20:52 +, Graham Percival a écrit : I can now confirm that the regtest comparison is done on the files in input/regression/out-test/ , which are created via make test. More precisely, the

Re: lilypond-book is hosed

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:21:17AM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 22:21 +0100, Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit : I would definitely like that option. Every now and then, when working with lilypond-book based projects, I also need to send e.g. an image per mail or

Re: lilypond-book is hosed

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 22:17 +, Graham Percival a écrit : The regtests are not used in the docs. Period. It's possible that a new feature might a file in Documentation/snippets/new/ which is an exact copy of a new regtest (actually, I've encouraged this), but we don't have many

Re: New LilyPond Spanish Users list at GNU

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 22:08 +, Graham Percival a écrit : 3) Given that there's some kind of problems with accents with savannah lists (I haven't grasped what it is, but read https://savannah.gnu.org/task/?9148 if you're interested), is it really good to have these non-English

Re: New LilyPond Spanish Users list at GNU

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 22:04 +, Graham Percival a écrit : My tentative answer is that we could create an official language-specific list for any translation that finished the top-priority items (IIRC, the website + Learning 1 Tutorial). Thoughts? This is basically what happened in

Re: New LilyPond Spanish Users list at GNU

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
2009/12/25 John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com: Then the software should be fixed.  The lack of proper UTF-8 support is really a pity in 2009 (2010 soon). Oh, I definitely agree! But that's outside my control. I'd rather not attach too many things to google code project, for the sake of

Re: New LilyPond Spanish Users list at GNU

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
2009/12/25 John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com: Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 22:04 +, Graham Percival a écrit :   Should we ask the -user-fr people to accept a name change to lilypond-fr ? This is perfectly acceptable, and I think a confirmation of Valentin, the other

Re: New LilyPond Spanish Users list at GNU

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 23:56 +, Graham Percival a écrit : I agree that if we make the change, we'd need to have lots of warning about it. If we want to do the change, there's two possibilities: 1) ask the savannah people to change the name. If we go for this, which I would

Re: [PATCH] Fix #867 and other lilypond-book snippet handling

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 20:45 +, Graham Percival a écrit : Looks fine to me, and nothing broken while doing an out-of-tree build from scratch. Pushed. I finally decided to keep the diff generation, because this allows us to reliably catch hash collisions, and with last doc build I only

[patch] create xrefs from .tely

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
The attached patch lets me build xrefs by looking at Documentation/*.tely directly, instead of looking at the corresponding Documentation/out-www/*.texi files. This would be very nice for the website, since we can't build all of lilypond on the server. (the alternative is to generate the

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-25 Thread Mark Polesky
Carl Sorensen wrote: As I think more about this, I wonder if there should be a short and sweet summary for experienced Linux developers, followed by a gentle (and longer) introduction for the Windows guys. Actually, I'm thinking there should be a short and sweet summary for the GUI-based

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/25/09 8:13 PM, Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com wrote: Carl Sorensen wrote: As I think more about this, I wonder if there should be a short and sweet summary for experienced Linux developers, followed by a gentle (and longer) introduction for the Windows guys. Actually, I'm