Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Monday, December 28, 2009 5:25 AM Oh, I agree that it would have the added benefit of a greater audience, but it would also cost more time for Mark to get it into the Git documentation instead of into the LilyPond documentation. [...etc] Many thanks, Carl. I had

Re: lilycontrib

2009-12-28 Thread Ian Hulin
A related question, Does wish (and therefore lilypond-git) run in the bash shell provided by git on Windows, if not, in the words of NASA: Houston, we have a problem. . . Cheers, Ian ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: lilycontrib

2009-12-28 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/28/09 4:59 AM, Ian Hulin i...@hulin.org.uk wrote: A related question, Does wish (and therefore lilypond-git) run in the bash shell provided by git on Windows, if not, in the words of NASA: Houston, we have a problem. . . On my Parallels version of XP, when I downloaded and

Re: lilycontrib

2009-12-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:59:19AM +, Ian Hulin wrote: A related question, Does wish (and therefore lilypond-git) run in the bash shell provided by git on Windows, if not, in the words of NASA: Houston, we have a problem. . . Dscho offered to make a custom git installer for windows,

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com wrote: You're proposing something like this? 1. Introduction to contributing 2. Working with source code   2.1 Using the `lilycontrib' GUI   2.2 Getting source with Git       2.2.1 [installing, configuring]       2.2.2

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/28/09 11:22 AM, Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com wrote: Graham Percival wrote: What about making 2.2 Getting source, then 2.3 basic procedures, etc ? That way, all the git stuff is still in the same chapter, but no section/subsection is unreasonably long. You're proposing

Re: lilycontrib

2009-12-28 Thread Mark Polesky
Graham Percival wrote: A related question, Does wish (and therefore lilypond-git) run in the bash shell provided by git on Windows, if not, in the words of NASA: Houston, we have a problem. . . Dscho offered to make a custom git installer for windows, which apparently would have this

make/doc-i18n-root-rules.make: grep --label=

2009-12-28 Thread Matthias Kilian
There are two make rules using a command like find $(outdir)/$* -name '*.html' | xargs grep -L --label= 'UNTRANSLATED NODE: IGNORE ME' | ... What's the reason for that `--label='? It's breaking the build with OpenBSDs native grep (in /usr/bin/grep), and I don't see any difference

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Colin Campbell c...@shaw.ca wrote: A one of the newer of noobs, I can testify that the biggest problems I'm having with git are not seeing how git becomes aware of changes I might make: do I edit from within { git gui/gitk/lilycontrib } or use an external

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread Colin Campbell
Trevor Daniels wrote: Carl Sorensen wrote Monday, December 28, 2009 5:25 AM Oh, I agree that it would have the added benefit of a greater audience, but it would also cost more time for Mark to get it into the Git documentation instead of into the LilyPond documentation. [...etc] Many

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread Mark Polesky
Graham Percival wrote: What about making 2.2 Getting source, then 2.3 basic procedures, etc ? That way, all the git stuff is still in the same chapter, but no section/subsection is unreasonably long. You're proposing something like this? 1. Introduction to contributing 2. Working with

Re: out-of-tree fr doc build failure

2009-12-28 Thread Graham Percival
2009/12/27 John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com: Le dimanche 27 décembre 2009 à 14:34 +0100, John Mandereau a écrit : Le dimanche 27 décembre 2009 à 01:02 +, Graham Percival a écrit : writing: /main/src/build-lilypond/./out-www/xref-maps/usage.fr.xref-map touch -r out-www/usage.texi

[PATCH] Use find ... | xargs rm -f instead of find ... -delete

2009-12-28 Thread Matthias Kilian
--- GNUmakefile.in |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/GNUmakefile.in b/GNUmakefile.in index 6574e65..6c2c54f 100644 --- a/GNUmakefile.in +++ b/GNUmakefile.in @@ -123,7 +123,7 @@ WWW-post: $(buildscript-dir)/mutopia-index -o $(outdir)/examples.html

Re: lilycontrib

2009-12-28 Thread Ian Hulin
On 28/12/09 17:46, Graham Percival wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Mark Poleskymarkpole...@yahoo.com wrote: Graham Percival wrote: Dscho offered to make a custom git installer for windows, which apparently would have this built-in. I'm currently on a Windows XP machine (just for

Re: out-of-tree fr doc build failure

2009-12-28 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 28 décembre 2009 à 19:35 +, Graham Percival a écrit : 2009/12/27 John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com: Le dimanche 27 décembre 2009 à 14:34 +0100, John Mandereau a écrit : Ugh, this touch is unnecessary. I see, it was added because some translated Texinfo documents missed

Re: lilycontrib

2009-12-28 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/28/09 12:54 PM, Ian Hulin i...@hulin.org.uk wrote: On 28/12/09 17:46, Graham Percival wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Mark Poleskymarkpole...@yahoo.com wrote: Graham Percival wrote: Dscho offered to make a custom git installer for windows, which apparently would have this

Re: lilycontrib

2009-12-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 01:03:19PM -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 12/28/09 12:54 PM, Ian Hulin i...@hulin.org.uk wrote: Mark, this means you've got the option in your re-design of the CG chapter headings to have a split between * contributors using the git GUI and lilypond-git (formerly

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 28 décembre 2009 à 19:07 +, Graham Percival a écrit : If you do make EXTERNAL_BINARY doc, then you don't need make at all. yes... except make -C scripts make -C python Best, John signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 09:15:50PM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: Le lundi 28 décembre 2009 à 19:07 +, Graham Percival a écrit : If you do make EXTERNAL_BINARY doc, then you don't need make at all. yes... except make -C scripts make -C python Oh, it needs scripts? The CG only

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 28 décembre 2009 à 20:25 +, Graham Percival a écrit : On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 09:15:50PM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: make -C scripts make -C python Oh, it needs scripts? The CG only mentions make -C python. It has needed them since we started using build scripts in

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread Graham Percival
2009/12/28 John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com: Le lundi 28 décembre 2009 à 20:25 +, Graham Percival a écrit : On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 09:15:50PM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: make -C scripts make -C python Oh, it needs scripts?  The CG only mentions make -C python. It has needed

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 28 décembre 2009 à 20:33 +, Graham Percival a écrit : Ok, added. Better would be adding this in the right makefile. That said, as far as I know nobody's used EXTERNAL_BINARY in at least half a year, so it's probably broken by now. It would be nice if somebody tried it out

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread Graham Percival
2009/12/28 John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com: Le lundi 28 décembre 2009 à 20:33 +, Graham Percival a écrit : Ok, added. Better would be adding this in the right makefile. If you want to figure out how to do this, go ahead. But I thought the general idea was to do the minimum amount

Re: make/doc-i18n-root-rules.make: grep --label=

2009-12-28 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 28 décembre 2009 à 20:06 +0100, Matthias Kilian a écrit : There are two make rules using a command like find $(outdir)/$* -name '*.html' | xargs grep -L --label= 'UNTRANSLATED NODE: IGNORE ME' | ... What's the reason for that `--label='? It's breaking the build with

Re: [PATCH] Use find ... | xargs rm -f instead of find ... -delete

2009-12-28 Thread John Mandereau
Thanks, applied. John signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: lilycontrib

2009-12-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, December 28, 2009 8:09 PM Why discuss git gui at all? Just give the command-line options. No. Git GUI and gitk provide a far easier way to work with branches than the command line. If the intention is to help people move up to developing why deliberately

Re: lilycontrib

2009-12-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Monday, December 28, 2009 8:03 PM Actually, I think it's a three-way split: * those using lily-git (not lilypond-git, that's the name of the directory) This option requires no knowledge of git at all -- just use the 3 buttons * those using git gui * those using

Re: make/doc-i18n-root-rules.make: grep --label=

2009-12-28 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:05:51PM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: What's the reason for that `--label='? It's breaking the build [...] The commit that added --label is commit d4401de33195113a8859629b4bd9483a03d9ab5c Author: Werner Lemberg w...@rigel.orion Date: Thu Dec 14 15:28:27 2006

Re: out-of-tree fr doc build failure

2009-12-28 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 28 décembre 2009 à 21:18 +, Graham Percival a écrit : I found the same problem with a fresh build, but then I remembered that I'd switched back to 2.12.2 to build new regtests for the comparison to 2.12.3. When I switched back to master after that, git left some old files in my

remove duplicate anchor generation in texi2html

2009-12-28 Thread Graham Percival
The below patch stops texi2html from creating two anchors, making the webpage navigation much more comfortable. However, it also makes the TOC navbars disappear. Valentin, could you fix the CSS so they don't vanish? Cheers, - Graham diff --git a/Documentation/lilypond-texi2html.init

Re: out-of-tree fr doc build failure

2009-12-28 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/28/09 2:31 PM, John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com wrote: Le lundi 28 décembre 2009 à 21:18 +, Graham Percival a écrit : I found the same problem with a fresh build, but then I remembered that I'd switched back to 2.12.2 to build new regtests for the comparison to 2.12.3.

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread Colin Campbell
Graham Percival wrote: Start: blindly copypaste from: - 1.1.2 - 1.1.3 Then, before you start working each day, you blindly copypaste the first item from - 1.2.2 Then you edit whatever file with whatever editor you want (graphical, command-line, raw manipulation of bits on the hard drive by

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread Colin Campbell
Carl Sorensen wrote: If you're only working on docs (i.e. no code changes), there's no need to run make before make doc, IIUC. Carl Noob question: is it likely that a change in the binary, overlooked by not doing a make, would break the docs, in the sense of changing documented

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Colin Campbell c...@shaw.ca wrote: Graham Percival wrote: A precis like this would be *gold* in the CG! Heh, thanks. That's why I keep on arguing for a set of simple, copypasteable commands. Admittedly, the new lily-git does this already... say, have you

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-28 Thread Graham Percival
2009/12/29 John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com: Le mardi 29 décembre 2009 à 00:00 +, Graham Percival a écrit :   If make ever ends with an error, just send it to lilypond-devel. ... and monitor -devel list for messages about infrastructure changes where a developper explicitly

Re: Autobeaming

2009-12-28 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 28 décembre 2009 à 19:11 -0700, Carl Sorensen a écrit : I've been continuing to work on the logical structure of autobeaming rules, because the rules aren't right yet. There are still some rules that don't make sense, and in trying to make things make sense, I've run into some