discrete slurs and ties

2012-05-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Due to this marvellous video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=345o3Wu95Qo I have learned that short slurs and ties aren't engraved manually; instead, there are ready-to-use stamps. In other words, since the number of such stamps is limited, tie and slur shapes become discrete if their length

Re: discrete slurs and ties

2012-05-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: Due to this marvellous video  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=345o3Wu95Qo I have learned that short slurs and ties aren't engraved manually; instead, there are ready-to-use stamps.  In other words, since the number of such

Re: discrete slurs and ties

2012-05-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
People can argue that this is an unnecessary limitation; lilypond can do a `better' job. However, I'm not sure whether we should do better... We should, definitely! There are bad tie and slur shapes in Lily, but this is not due to not having discrete lengths. Umm, yes. I've meant:

Re: discrete slurs and ties

2012-05-23 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: People can argue that this is an unnecessary limitation; lilypond can do a `better' job. However, I'm not sure whether we should do better... We should, definitely! There are bad tie and slur shapes in Lily, but this is not due to not having discrete

Re: discrete slurs and ties

2012-05-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: We should, definitely! There are bad tie and slur shapes in Lily, but this is not due to not having discrete lengths. Umm, yes. I've meant: Should lilypond do a `better' job than the engravers working with those stamps?

Re: discrete slurs and ties

2012-05-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Frankly, I don't see the point in simulating well-craftedness by artificially introducing minor deficiencies associated with some of the better work. @Werner: i could live with an *option* doing this, but i doubt that people are interested in writing it. And i think we have much, much,

Re: Get the positions of a beam (or other grob with positions)

2012-05-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi David, i'm writing just to let you know that the function changing arpeggio length: offsetArpeggioPositions = #(define-music-function (parser location offsets) (pair?) #{ \override Arpeggio #'positions = #(lambda (grob) (let* ((func (assoc-get 'positions (cdr

Re: discrete slurs and ties

2012-05-23 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: Frankly, I don't see the point in simulating well-craftedness by artificially introducing minor deficiencies associated with some of the better work. @Werner: i could live with an *option* doing this, but i doubt that people are interested in writing it.

Re: Developing for LilyPond

2012-05-23 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 22 mai 2012, at 22:15, David Nalesnik wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:10 PM, m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: On 22 mai 2012, at 21:01, David Nalesnik wrote: Hi Mike, On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:20 PM, m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: Hey David,

Re: Get the positions of a beam (or other grob with positions)

2012-05-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:02 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: I wish it was possible to add context to grob name in a more LilyPondish way (i.e. with a dot) It is conceivable as a parser extension, That's good news! like 3/4 is nowadays

Re: Get the positions of a beam (or other grob with positions)

2012-05-23 Thread Thomas Morley
2012/5/23 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:02 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: I wish it was possible to add context to grob name in a more LilyPondish way (i.e. with a dot) It is conceivable as a parser

Re: discrete slurs and ties

2012-05-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: Frankly, I don't see the point in simulating well-craftedness by artificially introducing minor deficiencies associated with some of the better work. @Werner: i could live with an *option* doing this, but i doubt that

Re: Get the positions of a beam (or other grob with positions)

2012-05-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote: I tried it similar to `overrideProperty' from `music-functions-init.ly' But I didn't manage to get rid of the -signs, when specifying the coctext. Is this possible? \version 2.15.38 offsetPositions =

Re: Developing for LilyPond

2012-05-23 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Mike, On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:47 AM, m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: [ ... ] Your patch is a post-processing corrective for when this fails. However, the goal of LilyPond is twofold: 1) Provide users with the ability to tweak LilyPond's output when for some reason

Re: Developing for LilyPond

2012-05-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:16 PM, David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com wrote: I find that the automation settings generally produce a good-looking result, and looking through some of my scores I find that I usually let slurs, ties, etc. alone, with an occasional override of 'positions.  For

Re: Developing for LilyPond

2012-05-23 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, Speaking of ugly slurs and slur controls… ;) Is there any easy way to get back the Slur #'attachment property we used to have? Cheers, Kieren. On 2012-May-23, at 16:51, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:16 PM, David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com wrote: I find that