Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Urs Liska writes: You are doing code reviews through a web interface already, isn't it? And this is because that's a quite natural way to communicate, comment on code etc. You can't do _that_ with plain Git. To me, this is one the most unnatural and therefore annoying parts of current

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread David Kastrup
Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes: Urs Liska writes: You are doing code reviews through a web interface already, isn't it? And this is because that's a quite natural way to communicate, comment on code etc. You can't do _that_ with plain Git. To me, this is one the most unnatural

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread Urs Liska
Am 18.09.2013 09:46, schrieb David Kastrup: Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes: Urs Liska writes: You are doing code reviews through a web interface already, isn't it? And this is because that's a quite natural way to communicate, comment on code etc. You can't do _that_ with plain

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: Am 18.09.2013 09:46, schrieb David Kastrup: Well, it facilitates looking at stuff in context (though that's fairly trivial to do by actually applying the patch in a cloned repository, and in-file-system clones of git repositories are _really_ cheap).

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread Francisco Vila
2013/9/18 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org The one area where I'd consider a web interface a possibly good tradeoff of matching tools to skills would be translation work: that could/should be a lot more crowdsourced than it is now. It turns out that organizing and tracking incremental translation

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/17 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: And yet [Linus] wrote Linux instead of using the best available tool for the job: he already had a copy of Minix, interactive UNIX was quite affordable, and other cheap versions came around. I'm not sure, but from what i've read it seems that Linus

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/18 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Comparing the amount of code actually getting reviewed and the amount of development getting done, the Linux kernel does not seem to suffer all that badly from working with a patch/mail-centric [review] workflow. Of course there are some reasons that

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/18 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: The one area where I'd consider a web interface a possibly good tradeoff of matching tools to skills would be translation work: that could/should be a lot more crowdsourced than it is now. It turns out that organizing and tracking incremental translation

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2013/9/18 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Comparing the amount of code actually getting reviewed and the amount of development getting done, the Linux kernel does not seem to suffer all that badly from working with a patch/mail-centric [review]

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: Just a reminder: nobody's talking about replacing everything with web-based interfaces. I think that the discussion is about providing both web-based and other interfaces. And i know at least one potential serious contributor that is driven

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread Karl Hammar
Urs Liska: Am 17.09.2013 18:21, schrieb David Kastrup: Janek Warchołjanek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2013/9/16 David Kastrupd...@gnu.org: So the question is what we should be telling the Savannah operators to make working on GNU projects using Git more feasible. Here you go: A web

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread David Kastrup
k...@aspodata.se (Karl Hammar) writes: What's natural is different for different people. Web interfaces are not natural for me, to the contrary, for me they appear constrained. The main question is what's natural to those people we can have a reasonable expectation to be working on LilyPond.

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/17 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: But as far as I've understood, code doesn't get into upstream master that way anyway, there is the Rietveld code review stage in between? How do commits (from developers) actually end up in master? Are they a) pushed to some branch, the diff uploaded

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/18 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: 2013/9/17 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: But as far as I've understood, code doesn't get into upstream master that way anyway, there is the Rietveld code review stage in between? How do commits (from developers) actually end up in master?

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread Urs Liska
Am 18.09.2013 14:28, schrieb Janek Warchoł: 2013/9/18 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: 2013/9/17 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: But as far as I've understood, code doesn't get into upstream master that way anyway, there is the Rietveld code review stage in between? How do commits (from

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: Am 18.09.2013 14:28, schrieb Janek Warchoł: 2013/9/18 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: 2013/9/17 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: But as far as I've understood, code doesn't get into upstream master that way anyway, there is the Rietveld code

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/17 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Now basically we have to split these into two different sets of requirements: Savannah does not provide accounts or services to the general public; its services will be restricted to actual developers. But what you list above mostly is _not_ related to

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Janek Warchoł writes: [..] since the most important thing in my opinion is how contributors can interact with the main repository. Currently it is, and that's also the next most important concept to drop and move to a distributed workflow, for some of those reasons, see

Re: Issue 3557: Fix some grammar mistakes. (issue 13373054)

2013-09-18 Thread tdanielsmusic
LGTM https://codereview.appspot.com/13373054/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Tuplet-bracket: do not crash; issue 3551 (issue 13352053)

2013-09-18 Thread tdanielsmusic
LGTM https://codereview.appspot.com/13352053/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org Cc: Julien Rioux julien.ri...@gmail.com; LilyPond Developmet Team lilypond-devel@gnu.org; Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:37 PM Subject: Re: we now have

Re: we now have lilypond organization on GitHub

2013-09-18 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/18 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net: - Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: When review is finished prepare a patch file (or series of patch files) and find someone with push access whom I can send it to? Yup. Strictly,

Re: Cancelled: LilyPond meeting in Waltrop, Germany, 2013-09-20 to 2013-09-24

2013-09-18 Thread Janek Warchoł
:( 2013/9/17 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: This is a reminder that next weekend, Sept 20th to 24th, there will be a LilyPond developer and user meeting in Waltrop, Germany. Ok, the current possible participant list would look like the following: Jan, Janek,

PATCHES: Countdown for September 21st - 06:00 GMT

2013-09-18 Thread James
Hello, Seems I am back on-line. Thanks for filling in David et al. *Countdown -- September 21st -- 06:00 GMT* * * * * * * * * 3495

Re: Docs: new defaults for rehearsal mark alignment (issue 13300048)

2013-09-18 Thread markpolesky
https://codereview.appspot.com/13300048/diff/9001/Documentation/changes.tely File Documentation/changes.tely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/13300048/diff/9001/Documentation/changes.tely#newcode86 Documentation/changes.tely:86: of the clef and key signature by default. As in previous

Re: Measure 'staff-padding' to reference points, as claimed in its docstring (issue 7005056)

2013-09-18 Thread markpolesky
https://codereview.appspot.com/7005056/diff/35015/Documentation/learning/tweaks.itely File Documentation/learning/tweaks.itely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/7005056/diff/35015/Documentation/learning/tweaks.itely#newcode2987 Documentation/learning/tweaks.itely:2987: \override

Re: Docs: new defaults for rehearsal mark alignment (issue 13300048)

2013-09-18 Thread k-ohara5a5a
Reviewers: J_lowe, thomasmorley651, Mark Polesky, https://codereview.appspot.com/13300048/diff/9001/Documentation/changes.tely File Documentation/changes.tely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/13300048/diff/9001/Documentation/changes.tely#newcode86 Documentation/changes.tely:86: of the

Re: Measure 'staff-padding' to reference points, as claimed in its docstring (issue 7005056)

2013-09-18 Thread k-ohara5a5a
On 2013/09/18 23:45:37, Mark Polesky wrote: I think we should stop using the `#' for scheme numbers. But when it is time to make that change, we would make the change over all the documentation at once. https://codereview.appspot.com/7005056/

`opus' header field at surprising position

2013-09-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Folks, consider this snippet (image attached): \header { title = title opus = opus composer = composer copyright = footer = tagline = } \markup { top1 } \markup { top2 } \markup { top3 } \score { c''1 } I would expect that `opus' appears vertically