Re: Need to remove links to lilypondblog.org

2021-11-12 Thread Federico Bruni via Discussions on LilyPond development
Paul, do you have a backup of lilypondblog.org? I might try converting it to a static site generator and host it on some free platform. On Fri, Nov 12 2021 at 22:12:33 -0700, Abraham Lee wrote: Hey, LP team! I went to the LP website and saw a link in the "Pondings" section that said that

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2021-11-12 5:57 pm, Kieren MacMillan wrote: so I again (perhaps naïvely) hope that \time \note-denom 3/4 and \time \note-denom #'(3 . 4) could both work. As David said, those are precisely the same thing. A fraction is one of the primitive tokens our lexer presents to the parser.

Need to remove links to lilypondblog.org

2021-11-12 Thread Abraham Lee
Hey, LP team! I went to the LP website and saw a link in the "Pondings" section that said that lilypondblog.org was live! I wondered if something had come up that brought it back and clicked on the link only to learn that the address is now a gambling site. So, not exactly the kind of impression w

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Jean Abou Samra > To: Kieren MacMillan , Flaming Hakama by > Elaine > Cc: LilyPond development , David Kastrup < > d...@gnu.org> > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 23:49:13 +0100 > Subject: Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator > > > > Humans

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Aaron, > Do you mean for \note-denom to be able to support both standard fraction > (4/4) as well as the number-duration (3 2.)? To my mind, the goal, ultimately, is for the user to do the least work possible to (e.g.) enable note-denominator time signatures on a pre-existing score, which m

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2021-11-12 5:34 pm, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Aaron, you might write a helper function: \time \foo 4 4. Ah! That idea certainly appeals to me much more than a brand new separate function. Would \time \note-denom 4/4 be possible without parser-fiddling? Do you mean for \note-denom to

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Aaron, > you might write a helper function: > \time \foo 4 4. Ah! That idea certainly appeals to me much more than a brand new separate function. Would \time \note-denom 4/4 be possible without parser-fiddling? > It's a little better; but with proper parser support, a number-duration >

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2021-11-12 5:03 pm, David Kastrup wrote: Kieren MacMillan writes: At that point, the only issue is to turn \time #'(4 . "4.") into an number num and a *duration* (not number) denom… which again doesn’t required parser-fiddling, correct? Utterly incorrect. #'(4 . "4.") does not consu

Re: List behaviour (was "Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator")

2021-11-12 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hello all (especially List Admin?!), > > I must give some context for the following comment: > >> On Nov 12, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Kieren MacMillan >> wrote: >> Hi all, >> I’m not sure whether I’m waiting for others to move this discussion forward…? > > Going to the list

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2021-11-12 4:22 pm, Kieren MacMillan wrote: except that the Scheme expressions '("4" . ("4" "8")) and '("4" "4" "8") are entirely equivalent Well that’s inconvenient (and somewhat confusing/unintuitive). When you consider how lists are represented in Scheme, this is entirely expected. A

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi Jean, > >> A unified \time command is >> not trivial to achieve from a parsing perspective. If the >> syntax of the argument is "4/4.", there is work to be done >> in the parser to let it accept it. "4 4." is feasible with >> a separate function, but I am pretty sure

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > If it becomes impossible to see what the author actually wants > because there is so much overlap in how the arguments > could be interpreted, where is the advantage? I agree 100%. But that doesn’t lead inevitably to your implied conclusion that such a function can’t exist — in a ro

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, [David K:] > It's not like I haven't voiced that opinion before, so I have no idea > how I could contribute towards you considering this question resolved. Well, as per my “List Behaviour” email, this is the first time I’ve heard your opinion voiced, due to some interwebs vagary… =) So

List behaviour (was "Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator")

2021-11-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all (especially List Admin?!), I must give some context for the following comment: > On Nov 12, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Kieren MacMillan > wrote: > Hi all, > I’m not sure whether I’m waiting for others to move this discussion forward…? Going to the list archive, I now see that there were many

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jean, > I am not entirely comfortable with > \time #'(4 . 4) > and > \time #'(4 . "4") > doing so different things Those would do the same thing, no? Those should both give the equivalent of \time 4/4 only that they would take different routes to get there. > Also, how do you integrate >

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 12/11/2021 à 22:31, Kieren MacMillan a écrit : Hi Jean, A unified \time command is not trivial to achieve from a parsing perspective. If the syntax of the argument is "4/4.", there is work to be done in the parser to let it accept it. "4 4." is feasible with a separate function, but I am p

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jean, > A unified \time command is > not trivial to achieve from a parsing perspective. If the > syntax of the argument is "4/4.", there is work to be done > in the parser to let it accept it. "4 4." is feasible with > a separate function, but I am pretty sure it isn't with > a unified music fu

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> -- Forwarded message -- > From: Kieren MacMillan > To: LilyPond development > Cc: Aaron Hill , Dan Eble > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 10:41:46 -0500 > Subject: Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator > Hi all, > > I’m not sure whether I’m waiting for others to move this di

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 12/11/2021 à 16:41, Kieren MacMillan a écrit : Hi all, I’m not sure whether I’m waiting for others to move this discussion forward…? Assuming I’m not: 1. In *my* mind, the optimal situation *from the user/UI perspective* would be to have a single public interface \time BLAH FOO BAR et

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi all, > > I’m not sure whether I’m waiting for others to move this discussion forward…? > > Assuming I’m not: > > 1. In *my* mind, the optimal situation *from the user/UI perspective* > would be to have a single public interface > >\time BLAH FOO BAR etc. > > whic

Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator

2021-11-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, I’m not sure whether I’m waiting for others to move this discussion forward…? Assuming I’m not: 1. In *my* mind, the optimal situation *from the user/UI perspective* would be to have a single public interface \time BLAH FOO BAR etc. which would gracefully and transparently handle a

Re: cross-staff, broken Glissando

2021-11-12 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 11/11/2021 à 23:27, Thomas Morley a écrit : Looks like it was much more work than expected... To be honest, it could have taken a one-line patch to correct the test case on the issue. I did not go that route because I knew it would fail in more subtle cases, and I wanted the effort of under