Re: tie over clef change

2020-09-27 Thread David Kastrup
ion of practicality than philosophy what to use here, and it could even be something else like EnharmonicTie with both slur-interface and tie-interface. Tie endpoints tend to be different from slur endpoints since they connect noteheads more than note columns (in-chord slurs are not really a good reference since they currently suck with regard to their positioning). -- David Kastrup

Re: tie over clef change

2020-09-27 Thread David Kastrup
le manual. A slur even across the same pitch will be executed with a separate keypress as opposed to a tie. I seem to remember that even in Bach's B minor mass (where E12 was not yet a thing) there is an enharmonic tie (or at least tonal repetition?) in the transition from "Confiteor" to "Et expecto". I mean, that transition is a tonal center nightmare anyway. I'd have to consult my score to pick out the details. -- David Kastrup

Re: Are lilypond output files subject to GPL?

2020-09-27 Thread David Kastrup
chieve some leverage. I doubt that they would be terribly upset if they were challenged on that position and lost in good faith in court as that would create a case of precedence that would be helpful in other regards. Basically, those with the means to call their bluff stand to lose more than they do. In the mean time, I don't think it makes sense to diverge too far from sanity for making stipulations. -- David Kastrup

Re: (scheme-)engraver in 2.20/21

2020-09-24 Thread David Kastrup
occurs _after_ the general start-translation-timestep phase. For _explicitly_ instantiated contexts (like \new Voice ...) I think it is being called. No guarantees, but that's the way I remember. -- David Kastrup

Re: fix-docsize.sh errors in make doc

2020-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
language selection; afterwards all links should stick with the selected language. Of course the problem with that is that this should not be the case for an English-language fallback. Strictly speaking, those should not be the same as the normal English-language pages but rather be per-language co

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-09-13 Thread David Kastrup
nd. > > I see the value of faster builds, but I think being correct is more > important than being fast. > > What annoys me is that the default build creates the info docs, which > aren't necessary for developing lilypond. This checks, for example, music function comments for correct Texinfo syntax (even if it does not test embedded LilyPond for validity). -- David Kastrup

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-09-11 Thread David Kastrup
think about this? Having a > large silent mass is not really helpful for this kind of discussion (as > it wasn't for the switch to GitLab). Frankly I don't see the point in repeating points I already made and call that "discussion". I don't see that in the current stage of upheaval of both internals and build system and infrastructure, there is a point in freezing off some half-baked intermediate state that hasn't seen significant exposure to extensive testing. -- David Kastrup

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-09-03 Thread David Kastrup
sort of freeze > 3) Branch off stable/2.22 and cherry-pick only fixes I think that "some sort of freeze" makes sense only in light of defining goals to achieve for the next stable release. As long as those goals still necessitate disruptive/extensive changes, there is not much of a point in branching. -- David Kastrup

Re: Repeat alternative count

2020-08-31 Thread David Kastrup
Christopher Heckman writes: > On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 11:59 AM David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Christopher Heckman writes: >> >> > How about allowing modifying the syntax of \alternative to include the >> > possibility of a number, which means to repeat

Re: ancient convert rules

2020-08-30 Thread David Kastrup
0" \version "2.6.0" \version "2.6.0" \version "2.6.2" \version "2.6.3" \version "2.6.3" \version "2.6.3" % necessary for upgrading to future LilyPond versions. \version "2.6.4" \version "2.6.4" \version "2.6.4" and so on. Stuff like that will not likely convert nicely, but at least having a start seems like common courtesy. -- David Kastrup

Re: Repeat alternative count

2020-08-30 Thread David Kastrup
uld be interpretted as: the 1st, 2nd, and 4th endings are c, > and the 3nd ending is d. That is already valid syntax and makes the first and second alternative c1 and the third and fourth alternative d1 . Extending LilyPond syntax is not really a matter of arbitrarily inventing something: a lo

Re: Repeat alternative count

2020-08-30 Thread David Kastrup
al_ number list if we are reasonably sure that this is all we need. Usually prettier alternatives can come with a backward compatibility hook (though their lifetime tends to be semi-eternal). But in this case the ugliness does not just extend to the input, but also to the input processing. -- David Kastrup

Re: Repeat alternative count

2020-08-29 Thread David Kastrup
Dan Eble writes: > On Aug 29, 2020, at 14:52, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> My own take on it is that \alternative syntax is an abomination and it >> should likely be more like >> >> \repeat volta 40 { >> ... >> \alternative { ..

Re: Repeat alternative count

2020-08-29 Thread David Kastrup
e like \repeat volta 40 { ... \alternative { ... } \alternative { ... } \alternative { ... } } since that would avoid several syntactical problems and would allow to produce alternatives by music functions. So if we are going to start phantasizing, that would be an approach I'd prefer to start out from. -- David Kastrup

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-08-25 Thread David Kastrup
h moderate success. However, as release stoppers were accumulating and the release process got stuck up, the "don't do development" appeals stopped making a whole lot of sense. > Just trying to understand what might have worked in the past... I sure wished I had been able to get an understanding about what might have worked... -- David Kastrup

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-08-24 Thread David Kastrup
release would be "outdated from the start" with regard to some "must-have" features that would be expected to be common in suggested code on the mailing lists. So 2.20's history in some way reflects how to muddle through in a situation that became a lot different from planning. It's not really a template for how things should work. -- David Kastrup

Re: branching stable/2.22?

2020-08-23 Thread David Kastrup
le moniker. The stable branch tends to see only rather superficial testing, and a large divergence from master would make its stability more a matter of wishful thinking than release engineering. -- David Kastrup

Re: output-attributes in 2.20.0

2020-08-06 Thread David Kastrup
Jean Abou Samra writes: > Le 6 août 2020 à 12:21, David Kastrup < d...@gnu.org> a écrit : > > Changing > > \override NoteHead.id = #note-id > > to > > \override Score.NoteHead.output-attributes.id = #note-id > > only works if note-id

Re: output-attributes in 2.20.0

2020-08-06 Thread David Kastrup
rrect. I may change that eventually, but that's basically a possibility at the bottom of a stack of rather extensive purportive changes, so don't hold your breath for it. -- David Kastrup

Re: info files no longer built with `make all`

2020-08-05 Thread David Kastrup
ill make them unusable. I'm not saying that those two reasons should be enough, just mention them for consideration. I find the former more useful than the latter, but then I do use Emacs as Info reader. -- David Kastrup

Re: output-attributes in 2.20.0

2020-08-02 Thread David Kastrup
orrection, and the result does not work. > \override Score.NoteHead.output-attributes.id = #'((id . "foo")) > > I get the error: > > Unsupported SCM value for format: ((id . foo)) Because you set output-attributes to ((id . ((id . "foo" rather than to ((i

Re: GSoC 2020: Shape-note notehead encoding

2020-07-22 Thread David Kastrup
> I'm not…”. > > Hope humor helps things progress, > Jean Frankly, never mind the Latin. I get the shakes when many native English speakers try their hands at Early Modern English, the variant often used by Shakespeare and also typical for the KJV Bible translation, and completely mess up things like speaketh, speakest, thou, thee, thine; basically picking between older forms randomly. -- David Kastrup

Re: GSoC 2020: Shape-note notehead encoding

2020-07-22 Thread David Kastrup
s-tube. One case where unfortunately someone who does not know history is not bound to repeat it. -- David Kastrup

Re: GUB failing

2020-07-17 Thread David Kastrup
-lilypond.git-release-unstable' > > And that's where it stops doing anything. > > Anyone any ideas? Sounds like tar (or some other program?) got nonsensical options and is now waiting for input from the terminal instead of some program or file. You can try to see what happe

Re: Today's problem with GUB build

2020-07-16 Thread David Kastrup
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 10:48 PM David Kastrup wrote: > >> Well ok. But only 100 random numbers are being used (there is >> another call using 1000 instead, the choice appearing random). >> Let's assume we have 10 processes going

Re: Today's problem with GUB build

2020-07-15 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > >> Am Mittwoch, den 15.07.2020, 21:35 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >>> Jonas Hahnfeld writes: >>> > Am Mittwoch, den 15.07.2020, 17:31 +0100 schrieb Phil Holmes: >>> > > Here's the logfile a

Re: Today's problem with GUB build

2020-07-15 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Mittwoch, den 15.07.2020, 21:35 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Jonas Hahnfeld writes: >> > Am Mittwoch, den 15.07.2020, 17:31 +0100 schrieb Phil Holmes: >> > > Here's the logfile and the ly file. >> > >> > Could

Re: Today's problem with GUB build

2020-07-15 Thread David Kastrup
reate-file-exclusive which returns #f if the file already exists > (or could not be created). I had commented on the respective issue without response that the parallel processes, without taking additional measures, will generate the same "random" sequence, making this no better than ju

Re: Fwd: LilyPond | Pipeline #166542826 has failed for dev/harm/duration-line | ddec74be in !249

2020-07-14 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > Am Mi., 15. Juli 2020 um 00:15 Uhr schrieb David Kastrup : >> >> Thomas Morley writes: >> >> > Am Di., 14. Juli 2020 um 22:14 Uhr schrieb Thomas Morley >> > : >> >> >> >> Am Di., 14. Juli 2020 um 22:03 Uhr s

Re: Fwd: LilyPond | Pipeline #166542826 has failed for dev/harm/duration-line | ddec74be in !249

2020-07-14 Thread David Kastrup
way, when not using merge_request.title, the title is just picked off the headline of the commit) to the same branch. Since you likely have amended your commit instead of adding one on top, this will not be a fast forward push, so you'll need the -f option or use +HEAD:my-proposed-branch-name as source:target description. It's the same requirement as you'd have after rebasing. -- David Kastrup

Re: non web_version of web.texi ?

2020-07-05 Thread David Kastrup
I think that my original > idea was to just produce the html, while the person(s) who wanted > to have all docs available offline where you, Jan, John Mandereau, > and/or David Kastrup. (It was definitely an emacs user!) I am frequently using the Info files to look up stuff in the index an

Re: outlet v. context

2020-07-04 Thread David Kastrup
classes and context () for others. Or get_parent_context () for some and get_daddy_context () for others. Generally the get_ prefix seems a bit spurious: given that we use the naming convention field_ for data members, calling the read accessor field () seems like it should always be workable. -- David Kastrup

Re: GSoC 2020: make hangs when making fonts

2020-07-01 Thread David Kastrup
hed to say that the beginner's mistake would have been running something with a registry as host system, but then with the advent of systemd as a Linux system component, the comparison has become lots murkier. Managing conflicts has become black magic. Linux tends to work more reliable magic, but either way there is too much happening behind the scenes. -- David Kastrup

Re: failing CI builds

2020-06-28 Thread David Kastrup
f in deval (x=0x7f01bed86010, x@entry=0x7f01bed818a0, > env=0x7f01b13c9130, env@entry=0x7f01b13c92c0) at eval.c:3469 > #16 0x7f01cbb4bba4 in scm_dapply (proc=0x7f01beb47ff0, arg1= out>, args=0x7f01b13c92c0) at eval.c:5012 > #17 0x7f01c1096c1a in scm_srfi1_map (proc=0x7f01b13c9b70, > arg1=0x7f01b13c9be0, args=) at srfi-1.c:1443 Huh. Maybe the file is renamed before Guile lets go of it? Or it may be a buffer overflow in Guile's input handling. -- David Kastrup

Re: [RFC] Use GitLab Milestones

2020-06-24 Thread David Kastrup
of 'Verified' but for newly entered issues. > > A LP developer who created an issue with a patch/fix would simply jump > to 'started'. > > This was something else that a 'non-developer' could contribute to the > LP project so developers could get on with fixing issues. > > Regards > > James > > > > > -- David Kastrup

Re: Parsing JSON in C++

2020-06-20 Thread David Kastrup
; is kind of the extended C++ STL). Not that I know of. -- David Kastrup

Re: xdvipdfmx fails with some regtests (“Invalid object”)

2020-06-19 Thread David Kastrup
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 3:13 PM David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: >> >> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:50 PM Jonas Hahnfeld wrote: >> >> No changes for me. Please also keep in mind that the same command >

Re: xdvipdfmx fails with some regtests (“Invalid object”)

2020-06-19 Thread David Kastrup
ts. Returning it to the _Scheme_ layer should never be done. For functions not returning a specific value, return SCM_UNSPECIFIED; is the right course. -- David Kastrup

Re: xdvipdfmx fails with some regtests (“Invalid object”)

2020-06-19 Thread David Kastrup
ay where that comes from. > > No, this is the only smallest possible EPS file that shows the problem. > I'm attaching the real file from LilyPond to this message, but the > important part is probably that it contains no graphical objects. That triggers some memory: this may not have anything to do with autorotation? That GhostScript decides on landscape orientation unexpectedly or so? -- David Kastrup

Re: Texinfo - manual line breaks in URLs?

2020-06-18 Thread David Kastrup
i` > files. > > David, would you do that and fast-track this mechanical change? No idea what makes me the go-to here, but anyway. <https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/merge_requests/173> -- David Kastrup

Re: Texinfo - manual line breaks in URLs?

2020-06-18 Thread David Kastrup
i` > files. > > David, would you do that and fast-track this mechanical change? We don't use camelcase elsewhere in Texinfo. @morerefs maybe? -- David Kastrup

Re: Texinfo - manual line breaks in URLs?

2020-06-17 Thread David Kastrup
/?id=aa18f519e091b6ada0fb2b0a65a51880031d5014 Uh oh. This looks like it introduces (modifies?) a command named @seealso but it would appear that we define our own version of it. -- David Kastrup

Re: -Werror

2020-06-15 Thread David Kastrup
getting fresh warnings _reported_ for changes seems like a good idea. Making it a no-go to have them, however, seems too restrictive to me. -- David Kastrup

Re: Need help with guile 1.88 or using guile 2.2 with lilypond-2.20

2020-06-08 Thread David Kastrup
from the > recursive call which the check relies on. Funnily enough, a comment > says: "If the code could be inlined, that might cause the test to give > an incorrect answer." - indeed.) It's easy enough to write a recursive call that cannot be tail-call optimised. It may be old code, but it was trouble waiting to happen. -- David Kastrup

Re: Need help with guile 1.88 or using guile 2.2 with lilypond-2.20

2020-06-08 Thread David Kastrup
ith your GCC 10 problem: I don't remember anything related to that. If it doesn't, you might want to ask Thien-Thi Nguyen (who has made this branch tip work so far) to take a look. -- David Kastrup

Re: Parallelizing the CI doc build

2020-06-06 Thread David Kastrup
quency of build system changes, it seems like any such change should be done in a manner where it does not require more than the flip of a switch to change back temporarily. -- David Kastrup

Re: new procedure with GitLab CI

2020-06-06 Thread David Kastrup
> so I could submit 7 MRs in one go. This worked satisfactorily for me, > so I retract my criticism. It's a manually done technique, and will still lead to competing pipelines from different users. -- David Kastrup

Re: Remove lily-git?

2020-06-03 Thread David Kastrup
, the tool being standard or not. But I agree that a custom GUI tool is likely not helpful. Not least of all since it just isn't a useful resource for people who actually already have their own rapport working with Git, and those are a significant part of the developer base. -- David Kastrup

Re: new procedure with GitLab CI

2020-05-29 Thread David Kastrup
mean that you can usually rebase and forget without waiting for pipeline completions. And you get the liberty of bypassing most CI and rebases if you don't want to. I may be wrong about the possibility to do this with a reasonable amount of effort: I don't want to get hopes up unnecessarily. -- David Kastrup

Re: GitLab access

2020-05-28 Thread David Kastrup
venue (-user list, -devel, bugtracker, > code reviewing, doc editing or merge requests) and, personally > speaking, the more we see of you the better. But of course, that’s > entirely up to you and may vary from time to time depending on your > free time and motivation; these are, after all, the only two > ingredients Free Software is made of. -- David Kastrup

Re: new procedure with GitLab CI

2020-05-27 Thread David Kastrup
Dan Eble writes: > On May 27, 2020, at 07:16, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Now that we have the first "please get in line" merge that isn't >> actually to any degree unusual, I get the suspicion that my previous >> alternative proposal of pushing to a C

Re: new procedure with GitLab CI

2020-05-27 Thread David Kastrup
ly manual (with "merge when pipeline succeeds" > being automatic). This has been clearly communicated, sorry if you > missed that. Well, the point of a working mechanism is that nothing needs to get communicated by side channels. Of course, we aren't there yet since we are still figuring out our usage patterns for Gitlab. > Jonas > -- David Kastrup

Re: new procedure with GitLab CI

2020-05-25 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Sonntag, den 24.05.2020, 16:28 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Jonas Hahnfeld writes: >> > Am Sonntag, den 24.05.2020, 13:19 +0100 schrieb James Lowe: >> > > So, and you didn't answer this specific question, if I set the label to

Re: new procedure with GitLab CI

2020-05-24 Thread David Kastrup
e submitter to not follow up with an actual merge. -- David Kastrup

Re: helping with testing resources

2020-05-24 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Sonntag, den 24.05.2020, 10:18 +0200 schrieb Jonas Hahnfeld: >> Am Sonntag, den 24.05.2020, 00:21 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> > I think configure options should likely point to Guile-1.8 (for now) and >> > use --enable-checking and (to s

Re: lilypond grammar in the contributor guide

2020-05-24 Thread David Kastrup
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > thanks, I'll take this as an OK to drop grammar from the manual. I am actually unhappier about seeing the mechanism for generating it disappear rather than the grammar itself. But for LilyPond, it really does no longer provide a reasonable value. -- David Kastrup

Re: helping with testing resources

2020-05-23 Thread David Kastrup
figure out how to track this. I think our > runners are prioritized, but this should become clear soon. I think configure options should likely point to Guile-1.8 (for now) and use --enable-checking and (to save CI minutes) --enable-gs-api . Reasonable? -- David Kastrup

Re: lilypond grammar in the contributor guide

2020-05-23 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > >> We have a dump of the bison grammar in the contributor guide (see >> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/lilypond-grammar). >> >> Is there any value in keeping this? It complicates the g

Re: lilypond grammar in the contributor guide

2020-05-23 Thread David Kastrup
e likely in a capacity of interpreting the respective traces of Bison. -- David Kastrup

Re: [RFC] Enabling GitLab CI

2020-05-21 Thread David Kastrup
ower by a > factor of 2, I'd call that a regression in general. If it is by the translation team doubling the number of supported languages... Actually, if translations were all kept up to date, we'd probably need less time for "make doc" since then most of the translations would work with the same code examples. -- David Kastrup

Re: [RFC] Enabling GitLab CI

2020-05-21 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Donnerstag, den 21.05.2020, 17:10 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Jonas Hahnfeld writes: >> > Am Donnerstag, den 21.05.2020, 15:19 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> > > Jonas Hahnfeld writes: >> > > > Am Donnerstag, den

Re: [RFC] Enabling GitLab CI

2020-05-21 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Donnerstag, den 21.05.2020, 15:19 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Jonas Hahnfeld writes: >> > Am Donnerstag, den 21.05.2020, 14:29 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> > > The "traffic jam" problem could be avoided by retaining

Re: [RFC] Enabling GitLab CI

2020-05-21 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Donnerstag, den 21.05.2020, 14:29 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Jonas Hahnfeld writes: >> > Am Dienstag, den 19.05.2020, 08:08 -0400 schrieb Dan Eble: >> > > On May 17, 2020, at 15:27, Jonas Hahnfeld wrote: >> > > >

Re: [RFC] Enabling GitLab CI

2020-05-21 Thread David Kastrup
e experienced people desiring to bunch their work before testing, the triggering could also happen manually by whoever thinks he has pushed enough stuff to staging to give it a whirl. -- David Kastrup

Re: Markup vertical alignment

2020-05-20 Thread David Kastrup
before \hspace #0 and once behind it. -- David Kastrup

Re: Handling problems with patches after the patch is pushed

2020-05-17 Thread David Kastrup
ue. > Every problematic commit I've seen as I've worked on verifying issues > for 2.20, 2.21, and 2.19 has resulted from adding comments after an > issue is closed. I think we should have a policy asking that we > implement either 1 or 2 above. New issue + crossreference would be my suggestion. -- David Kastrup

Re: PATCHES - Countdown for May 17th

2020-05-17 Thread David Kastrup
; integrating CI which I'm preparing right now. It is much more direct to manage one's commits/issues on the command line. We should not lightly forego that possibility. -- David Kastrup

Re: PATCHES - Countdown for May 17th

2020-05-17 Thread David Kastrup
h conventions for branch/tag naming, there is a lot of potential to achieve similar functionality to what we once did with git-cl with much much less code and work since basically all of the transport of information can be done using the git command line. -- David Kastrup

Re: 2.21.0 Issues all verified!

2020-05-17 Thread David Kastrup
it by >> policy. As you say, it's very hard to track merge requests without a >> tie to the issue tracker. > > what does "track" mean in this context? Figuring out what discussions and decisions led to a certain approach being implemented. In a colloborative development environment, you don't want every developer inventing the wheel new while deflating wheels other developers have installed. -- David Kastrup

Re: README.md

2020-05-17 Thread David Kastrup
cbook?) for creating md. While that may sound like overkill just for the README, the tools would also permit washing things like the Changes document into the Wiki(?). -- David Kastrup

Re: PATCHES - Countdown for May 17th

2020-05-17 Thread David Kastrup
countdown. > > It starts here > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2020-05/msg00359.html I think for now it's pushing to staging. Either from the command line, or because you have set staging as your destination branch in the GUI, in which case you can use a button (usually starting by rebase). -- David Kastrup

Re: 2.21.0 Issues all verified!

2020-05-16 Thread David Kastrup
er having an actual issue number for the details for anything of non-trivial nature. But there is no point in being discouraged as long as we haven't even decided on particular workflows: instead one should bring up problems one sees. -- David Kastrup

Re: Final resolution of issue 4751

2020-05-16 Thread David Kastrup
ibly caused some regressions (but there are no hard verifiable statements in this report itself?) but were kept in. I don't really have a good idea here. -- David Kastrup

Re: Another round of questions

2020-05-16 Thread David Kastrup
x27;t there. We have no timetable for a replacement or its viability, and so I don't see the point in discouraging contributors from making fixes to what will continue for an indeterminate time to be part of the tool set useful for achieving objectives. -- David Kastrup

Re: Building the website

2020-05-16 Thread David Kastrup
he web server pulls from is not really public. So giving this have one hop less to work with is reasonable in my book for the sake of ongoing operations. -- David Kastrup

Re: mirror GitLab -> Savannah

2020-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
est, such as cvs/master and some of the dev/* branches.) I think it was just seen as an opportunity for cleanup. -- David Kastrup

Re: FW: Obstacles for using GitLab CI

2020-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen writes: >> On 5/14/20, 8:04 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: >> >> Patchy, however, is set up in a manner where it picks up work not when >> staging is ahead of master, but rather when staging is ahead of its last >> tested version. >> >

Re: Obstacles for using GitLab CI

2020-05-14 Thread David Kastrup
s ahead of master, but rather when staging is ahead of its last tested version. That means that even if the migration to master may proceed with the vote of one Patchy, _every_ instance of Patchy will look at whether it is satisfied with the current state in a timely manner. So the diversity of our Patchy setups may not keep something working only on some platforms from getting into master, but it will still not stay under the radar indefinitely. -- David Kastrup

Re: Obstacles for using GitLab CI

2020-05-13 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Mittwoch, den 13.05.2020, 21:54 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Jonas Hahnfeld writes: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > as discussed before the migration, we might want to look into using a >> > CI system. Foremost this would h

Re: Obstacles for using GitLab CI

2020-05-13 Thread David Kastrup
advantage of being "more standard". What do > you think about this? (To be honest, I'm not even sure if I like > it. But I do like the prospect of having automated testing.) At the current point of time, our pipeline does not tend to be all that full I think. We are not at Linux kernel levels of participation... -- David Kastrup

Re: Verifying issues on Gitlab

2020-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
asically asked to do the verification (I know, I know: I've not exactly been great at keeping our infrastructure workers recruited and dedicated). -- David Kastrup

Re: repository at GitLab

2020-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Montag, den 11.05.2020, 14:54 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Jonas Hahnfeld writes: >> > Yes, I think pushing existing reviews as a merge request is the easiest >> > solution. For the beginning we could of course also live with a mixture

Re: repository at GitLab

2020-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Montag, den 11.05.2020, 14:22 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> David Kastrup writes: >> > Jonas Hahnfeld writes: >> > > Am Montag, den 11.05.2020, 12:44 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> > > > dak@lola:/usr/local/t

Re: repository at GitLab

2020-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > >> Am Montag, den 11.05.2020, 12:44 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >>> Jonas Hahnfeld writes: >>> > Am Montag, den 11.05.2020, 11:42 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >>> > > Jonas Hahn

Re: repository at GitLab

2020-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Montag, den 11.05.2020, 12:44 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Jonas Hahnfeld writes: >> > Am Montag, den 11.05.2020, 11:42 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> > > Jonas Hahnfeld < >> > > hah...@hahnjo.de >> > > &

Re: repository at GitLab

2020-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Montag, den 11.05.2020, 11:42 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Jonas Hahnfeld writes: >> > Everything went pretty much as expected, so here's the repo: >> > https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond >> > If you already hav

Re: repository at GitLab

2020-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Montag, den 11.05.2020, 11:42 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Jonas Hahnfeld writes: >> > Everything went pretty much as expected, so here's the repo: >> > https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond >> > If you already hav

Re: repository at GitLab

2020-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
to switch to GitLab (or edit your .git/config manually if preferred). Wouldn't that just be readonly access? -- David Kastrup

Re: Remove last compiler warning patch

2020-05-10 Thread David Kastrup
re being ignored here: we are right now in the process of using to Gitlab as our development platform and so the work in picking up patches and entering them in the tracker is likely to take some days before we settle into new routines. It's likely that your patches will then be taken up. -- David Kastrup

.setpdfwrite

2020-05-10 Thread David Kastrup
lear to me just when .setpdfwrite became unnecessary(?). So I have no idea if just removing it won't cause trouble with earlier versions of Ghostscript still in use with LilyPond (not least of all because we may be using them in GUB). Any ideas? -- David Kastrup

Re: migrating to GitLab

2020-05-10 Thread David Kastrup
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 11:57 AM David Kastrup wrote: > >> output-distance: set device properties in batch driver file >> >> This fixes the output quality of the regtest results. >> >> Previously, the code sets

Re: migrating to GitLab

2020-05-10 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > >> On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 11:37 AM David Kastrup wrote: >>> >>> Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: >>> >>> > Sorry. I'm fine with the migration going through today. >>> > >&

Re: migrating to GitLab

2020-05-10 Thread David Kastrup
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 11:37 AM David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: >> >> > Sorry. I'm fine with the migration going through today. >> > >> > We'll all be confused for a few days, but given

Re: migrating to GitLab

2020-05-10 Thread David Kastrup
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 11:37 AM David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: >> >> > Sorry. I'm fine with the migration going through today. >> > >> > We'll all be confused for a few days, but given

Re: migrating to GitLab

2020-05-10 Thread David Kastrup
repository instead, or am I misunderstanding anything here? -- David Kastrup

Re: migrating to GitLab

2020-05-10 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Samstag, den 09.05.2020, 16:11 -0400 schrieb Dan Eble: >> On May 9, 2020, at 15:13, David Kastrup wrote: >> > Carl Sorensen writes: >> > > ->CS At any rate, I think that we should have appropriate CG >> > > instruction

Re: migrating to GitLab

2020-05-09 Thread David Kastrup
to have all that before, it increases the workload for those preparing the migration and they have to guess. I totally agree that the CG should reflect the new workflows. But at the time we do the switch, those new workflows are still in flux. -- David Kastrup

Re: migrating to GitLab

2020-05-08 Thread David Kastrup
ng options are there? I think it makes sense for the non-developer access to keep referring/pointing to Savannah since I consider it a resource with more long-term dependable availability. -- David Kastrup

Re: Almost, but not quite: C++ STL in LilyPond

2020-05-07 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: >> >>> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 5:49 PM Jonas Hahnfeld wrote: >>>> >>>> Am Dienstag, den 05.05.2020, 17:09 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >>>> > I a

Re: Almost, but not quite: C++ STL in LilyPond

2020-05-07 Thread David Kastrup
on your proposed alternative to >> https://codereview.appspot.com/577720043/ . Or did I miss an update on >> that topic? > > https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5895/ > https://codereview.appspot.com/547920045 > ? Thanks. -- David Kastrup My replies have a tend

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