Re: make dist broken

2012-02-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 08:24:23PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: I did look, but in the end it was easier to find the problem by looking at what happened in make dist. Documentation/lang/GNUmakefile has a line like: SUBDIRS = essay learning notation texidocs usage web extending included which

Re: make dist broken

2012-02-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:18:02PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: OK -as remarked in my previous mail patchy-merge fails with: I currently have no idea why this is. ok, I'll try running it. - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: git repository for osx-lilypond

2012-02-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 09:37:44PM +0100, Christian Hitz wrote: Am 13.02.2012 um 13:36 schrieb Graham Percival: Should I tune osx-lilypad-universal-0.6.tar.gz to be compatible with GUB's installer.py? Anyway, here is a patched version: http://klarinett.li/lilypond/osx-lilypad

Re: GUB failure

2012-02-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 04:40:54PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/gub/gub/target/tools/root/usr/lib/librestrict.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. hmm. Command barfed: tar -C /home/gub/gub/target/darwin-x86/installer -zxf What happens when you run this

Re: git repository for osx-lilypond

2012-02-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 09:38:15PM +0100, Christian Hitz wrote: See my pull request on GitHub: https://github.com/gperciva/lilypad/pull/1 Pulled, and I've made you a collaborator, so presumably you can push directly to that repo now. - Graham ___

Re: git repository for osx-lilypond

2012-02-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 09:37:44PM +0100, Christian Hitz wrote: Anyway, here is a patched version: http://klarinett.li/lilypond/osx-lilypad-universal-0.6.1.tar.gz Thanks, uploaded to lilypond.org in the usual place. I've made you a collaborator for the GUB repo so you can push a change to

Re: Final redirection of texi output (issue 5650064)

2012-02-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:05:56AM +, d...@gnu.org wrote: scripts/build/run-and-check.sh:2: eval $1 $2 21 Actually, it is totally basic shell scripting here. Well, apparently you don't need basic shell scripting for 7 years of full-time linux use and 4 years of macosx use, and

Re: git repository for osx-lilypond

2012-02-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 09:39:59PM +0100, Christian Hitz wrote: Am 11.02.2012 um 19:57 schrieb Carl Sorensen: Yes, and I'm aware of that two-line fix. It gives ppc support, but I think it also gives a bad version of LilyPond when the About menu item is checked. I may be wrong on this.

Re: Final redirection of texi output (issue 5650064)

2012-02-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:47:22PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: My rule of thumb is that if I don't understand something easily, then at least 50% of future lilypond contributors won't understand it either. eval is ugly and a little

Re: regenarating png from svg files

2012-02-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 02:46:01PM -0500, Julien Rioux wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: Images should be pushed along other changes, and also to our branch. Graham has to authorize something afterwards for those to be visible. Forwarding to

Re: Minor documentation nitpick

2012-02-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:47:36PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Automatic footnotes take three arguments; the @var{Layout Object} to be annotated, the @var{(x . y)} position of the indicator and a The texinfo manual says: Use the @var command to indicate metasyntactic variables and so it

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

2012-02-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:03:48PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2) Adding comprehensive MusicXML import and export features, together with test suites for it. Requirements: ? (no idea in which language this would be written), MusicXML, basic LilyPond and music notation knowledge; familiarity

alternate GUB repo giving out access

2012-02-12 Thread Graham Percival
I've forked the GUB repo so I can easily give push access to people like Mike: https://github.com/gperciva/gub The CG has been updated. - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: git repository for osx-lilypond

2012-02-12 Thread Graham Percival
2012/2/11 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: In order to try to track this down, I'd like to have a git history to see how things have changed. [...] Can anybody tell me where I might find an up-to-date repository? https://github.com/gperciva/lilypad As of 2012 Feb 12, this is the latest

Re: git repository for osx-lilypond

2012-02-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 03:05:31PM +, Graham Percival wrote: https://github.com/gperciva/lilypad I knew I forgot something. :( I have renamed the macos-lilypad branch on savannah to: archive/macos-lilypad Please do not pull or fetch to that branch. I was reluctant to delete it entirely

archive/ branches on savannah

2012-02-12 Thread Graham Percival
In case it's not totally obvious, don't push anything to an archive/ branch. I've renamed a few old branches that might mislead people, namely: web- archive/web web-gop- archive/web-gop macos-lilypad - archive/macos-lilypad - Graham

Re: extract-texi-filenames - missing directories

2012-02-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 03:44:31PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: When make doc is run, it complains about 3 missing directories - Documentation/hu/included; Documentation/cs/included and Documentation/zh/included. We could add these to the list of known missing directories in

Re: extract-texi-filenames - missing directories

2012-02-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 04:13:42PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca To: Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net Cc: Devel Team lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 4:04 PM Subject: Re: extract-texi-filenames

Re: git repository for osx-lilypond

2012-02-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 09:32:11AM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2012/2/11 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: In order to try to track this down, I'd like to have a git history to see how things have changed. [...] Can anybody tell me where I might find an up-to-date repository?

Re: google summer of code

2012-02-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 02:32:31PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: W dniu 11 lutego 2012 13:33 użytkownik Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca napisał: Time+effort required to write a proposal.  Would you be happy delaying the 2.16 for, say, a month, while we spend effort writing

Re: Announce discontinuation of MacOSX support for versions 10.4 and older (issue 2271) (issue 5653057)

2012-02-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 08:16:53PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: gra...@percival-music.ca writes: However, there is clearly no desire to actually create that two-line patch, so I guess that removing support is the thing to do. Again: I don't have a clue about the involved work. But if it

google summer of code

2012-02-09 Thread Graham Percival
Does anybody feel like submitting a proposal to google summer of code? IIRC students must be registered at a school, so this isn't something that would help any senior developer, but it's still $5500 for any student that ends up working on lilypond over the summer, plus $500 for the organization.

Re: Google analytics

2012-02-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 04:24:38PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Are the results available anywhere? Not publicly, no. If I can find the password for an old gmail account from like 5 years ago, I can check them. - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list

Re: google summer of code

2012-02-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 05:38:31PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: Ooh. I think I qualify - I'm officially a full-time student. I'd be happy to share the bounty... I should be surprised if that is even permitted. Of course, it is unlikely that they

Re: google summer of code

2012-02-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 10:19:18PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: I'm a student and i'd love to spend my summer working on LilyPond. The question is, do you think i qualify? I think so. Read their FAQ. It all comes down to whether you're registered at an accredited university (or IIRC high

release blocked due to issues to verify

2012-02-08 Thread Graham Percival
It might be nice to have a release later today, as there are 5 Critical fixes either pushed or waiting to be pushed. Unfortunately, http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?can=7 shows some issues which do *not* contain fixed_2_15_29, so I will not make a release. In case you forgot, the

Re: release blocked due to issues to verify

2012-02-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 10:13:53AM -, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: Graham Percival Those are all patches which only actually appear in 15.29 Then label them as fixed_2_15_29. - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list

Re: release blocked due to issues to verify

2012-02-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 11:22:44AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: It is usually the responsibility of the person marking the issue fixed to also add the fixed_xx_xx label and mention the commit, but if that has not been done for some reason, I think we have keeping this info somewhat accurate

Re: Directs makeinfo and texi2html output to logfiles (issue 5645046)

2012-02-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 01:23:06PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: The reason I was suggesting an early push was that cleaning up make doc is a cumulative affair, and I find it easier to manage changes/patches if I don't have multiple differences from master in my build system. I'd like to get one

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

2012-02-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 02:29:00PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: So I looked into the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities. I could see this funding Americans to work on lilypond programming while living in America. I could see this potentially funding

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

2012-02-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 07:11:26PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 2/8/12 11:01 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: I can not see this funding non-Americans working outside of America. If you look at the links, many of the successful grants either invite or require

Re: having trouble fetching all remote branches

2012-02-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 08:51:24AM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: My local repository wasn't created with git clone, and i have only one remote branch ('origin/master'); i cannot push to staging because of that. I've tried 'git fetch --all', but the other remote branches do not appear, and i

Re: Errors in examples

2012-02-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 04:12:55PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca To: Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net Cc: Devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: Errors in examples Users

Re: Gets vertical skylines from grob stencils (issue 5626052)

2012-02-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 07:45:47PM +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote: In my opinion, these times are too high to justify the gain that one gets from using fine-tuned vertical skylines. Yes, unfortunately. +1 is it at all possible to make this a user-configurable option? I know this would add

Re: staging patchy problem.

2012-02-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 10:43:49AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: for some reason unfathomable to me, the staging patchy contains the following code in compile_lilypond_test.py: The intent is that after doing staging-master, patchy's master should be updated so that a later run of test-patches.py

Re: staging patchy problem.

2012-02-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 11:31:52AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: The intent is that after doing staging-master, patchy's master should be updated so that a later run of test-patches.py doesn't miss any updates. If test-patches.py needs

Re: Windows welcome message

2012-02-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 11:36:47AM -, Phil Holmes wrote: The windows welcome.ly points users to http://lilypond.org/web/help which (I think) is an old implementation of the website, with old look and feel. There doesn't appear to be an identical page in the new website, but pointing them

Re: Where to document patchy?

2012-02-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 02:15:31PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/patch-handling ? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/pushing-to-staging ? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/commits-and-patches ?

Re: Errors in examples

2012-02-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 02:43:45PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: In the source for http://lilypond.org/ly-examples/tab-example.png I get the following compile errors: Seems to me these really ought to compile clean? Users aren't supposed to look at these, but sure, go ahead and fix those

Re: Last Q for today?

2012-02-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 03:17:11PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: If I maker a change to a manual (in this case, notation; winds) and this has translations, should I make the same change into the translations, or leave it to be picked up by the translators later? Leave it. - Graham

Re: Errors in examples

2012-02-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 05:57:31PM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: 2012/2/5 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Hardly surprising.  From changes.tely: @item Flags are now treated as separate objects rather than as stem parts. @lilypond[fragment,quote,relative=2] \override Flag #'color = #red g8

Re: failure rewriting Patchy

2012-02-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 11:57:24AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: I've not looked at the attached file, but what were you trying to do and what caused problems, Jan? a) git management. test-patches.py basically takes whatever state its reference

Re: lily-git.tcl and git clone

2012-02-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 02:14:56PM +0100, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: * git clone learned --single-branch option to limit cloning to a single branch (surprise!). This might change things end be quite useful! Thanks for the news, but in this case it's actually the opposite: we _want_

Re: Build: website should rely on $LILYPOND_GIT (issue 5630055)

2012-02-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 11:10:51PM +, julien.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Documentation/contributor/website-work.itexi:270: make -f website.make WEBSITE_ONLY_BUILD=1 -B website If we leave -B here, does it fix issue 2251? That's not the issue; once I'd boiled down the instructions and tested

issues to verify - no more releases

2012-02-03 Thread Graham Percival
Now that the Patchy staging-merge is running ok, it's time to force the next issue: I will not be making any more releases, stable or unstable, as long as there are issues to verify relating to a previously-released version. At the time of this writing, this means that if *ANY* issue on

Re: Roadblock MacOSX 10.4 for release of LilyPond 2.16

2012-02-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 11:56:06AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: in the list of critical issues the recent issue 2271 URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2271 is the only one I see without an obvious path forward. A quick glance at

Re: issues to verify - no more releases

2012-02-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 01:14:52PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: At the time of this writing, this means that if *ANY* issue on this list: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?can=7 does *NOT* say fixed_2_15_28

Re: issues to verify - no more releases

2012-02-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 02:14:41PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: Programmers gives things fixed_* tags. You wish. Heh. Normative vs. descriptive. :) Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing

Re: issues to verify - no more releases

2012-02-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 01:40:49PM +, Colin Hall wrote: Looks like Dave has marked all the outstanding fixes as verified while I was busy testing 1416. almost; there's still 2149. My understanding is that they still all need to be tested. I'm travelling from Saturday but I'll try to

Re: Patchy and staging

2012-02-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 10:00:30AM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: I got a Permission denied (publickey) message from patchy when trying to fiddle with it. I know that it is going to the correct directory because it succeeds in deleting the test branch but then it gives me this. Any

Re: Patchy and staging

2012-02-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 11:41:22AM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: On Feb 1, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Graham Percival wrote: On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 10:00:30AM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: I got a Permission denied (publickey) message from patchy when trying to fiddle

Re: Running patchy (merge staging)

2012-02-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 11:55:24AM -, Phil Holmes wrote: My draft instructions, based on my memory of what I did. Looks good! Here's a few little notes, including the reason why I couldn't test David's 2040 patch. (coincidently, I'm waiting for my supervisor to show up, so I spent 10

Re: New Patchy thread

2012-01-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:03:17PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: Re: New Patchy thread Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net writes: OK - I've now

Re: New Patchy thread

2012-01-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:37:33PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: I assume I need to do something to update my git repo. However, it's vanilla and created using lily-git, so we would need instructions on how to do this anyway. Anyone know what's needed? I'll bet you a tenner that you used the OLD

lily-git.tcl and git clone

2012-01-31 Thread Graham Percival
The updated CG instructions for setting up git manually specify to use clone: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/setting-up but the latest patch for lily-git.tcl still appears to use the old git remote add... stuff to only get specific branches? If I understand git correctly,

Re: New Patchy thread

2012-01-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 01:47:52PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: There you go. That seemed to work. Yep, looks good. I assume all I need to do is run patchy-staging daily? Yes and no. Running it daily would be great. Running it every 12 hours might be nicer, although maybe you could alternate

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:37:58PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2012/1/29 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: So seriously: this needs to move to a different computer if LilyPond development is of concern to you all. My work on Patchy (to make it more foolproof and more operator-friendly, i.e.

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:47:11PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: The test-patches.py script can likely make use of the techniques in lilypond-patchy-staging.ly with regard to doing an offside build with a defined starting point not relying on whatever happens to be checked out in the main

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:59:57PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: Don't get confused here. Don't scare people away from doing the staging-merge by talking about test-patches.py. I am not sure what the problem is with anybody else running

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 02:07:44PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: smtp_command: msmtp -C ~/.msmtp-patchy -t means nothing to me. That is command for mailing the completion message somewhere. I have no idea what msmtp is supposed to be, ah yes, I

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 01:35:24PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:07 PM Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan Nope. It uses whatever repository you specify in

Re: avoiding forward declarations in stencil.hh

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:56:50PM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: The problem is that the file in question is stencil.hh. I got around it by using Drul_arraySCM and having the drul arrayed populated with smobified stencils. I hope that my 6e2e1d6a13aba88a3a8eecc0d46f96ad245c152a didn't

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 04:39:31PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: My other current concern is to wonder whether lots of people trying to get patchy running might not collide with each other. I don't think so; once the first set of commits were pushed to

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 06:56:08PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2012/1/30 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: that's ALREADY how it works for the staging-merge. I guess i mean something different than you do when i say everything gets done automatically. I think there's confusion

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 03:34:45PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Patchy has been running for about 6 hours on my laptop trying to get the current staging (which is one trivial commit ahead of master) checked. And is still on it. ??? if you look in the build dir, what logs does it have? I mean,

Re: Patchy email

2012-01-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 04:18:00AM -0800, lilypond.patchy.gra...@gmail.com wrote: *** FAILED BUILD *** nice make test -j3 CPU_COUNT=3 Previous good commit: 05efb98f2e3ff68f4bb8221db640b0174bfcde93 Current broken commit: b445e1b4207996eee2362187fa3e8b8af8ff05ba

updated git-cl

2012-01-28 Thread Graham Percival
there's an improved git-cl on my github account now: https://github.com/gperciva/git-cl Thanks to Lukasz Czerwinski, it tracks all lilypond patches with the same base url. http://codereview.appspot.com/search?base=http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git/trunk/ All contributors are

Re: Patchy email

2012-01-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 08:31:04AM -0500, Julien Rioux wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 04:18:00AM -0800, lilypond.patchy.gra...@gmail.com wrote: make[1]: *** [out-test/tex-fragment.tex] Error 1 make[1

Re: Patchy email

2012-01-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 09:07:12AM -0500, Julien Rioux wrote: Thanks. Are there known issues about running multiple lilypond-book instances in parallel when they touch the same files? I'm guessing this is what's going on because a lot of the test files input the same snippets as example, which

Re: Patchy email

2012-01-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 09:18:03AM -0500, Julien Rioux wrote: I'll have to test again with -j3, sorry. I suggest we erase the last two commits from staging until this is resolved. The convert-ly commit should be pretty safe. oh, I did that an hour ago, and Patchy's finished merging it now. -

extra countdown for 2012-01-29

2012-01-27 Thread Graham Percival
Since we didn't have any patches on the official countdown for next Sunday (2pm GST), let's add Carl's latest Critical fix: empty strings: tabStaff insists on stringnumbers and looses notes http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2256 http://codereview.appspot.com/5576053 - Graham

Re: Tasks remaining for 2.16 release?

2012-01-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:33:31PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: a) feature freeze. Nothing added that requires documentation changes. why bother? the two-week release candidate takes care of this. b) get rid of all critical issues yes c) release candidate(s) yes d) proofread the docs

Re: make doc problem

2012-01-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 05:57:43PM -0500, Julien Rioux wrote: On 22/01/2012 2:58 PM, Julien Rioux wrote: Thanks, you're quite right CPU is not the limiting factor for the build. Disk access and usage of swap when compiling input/regression/collated-files slows down the build to a crawl for me.

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 09:10:16AM +, James wrote: Initialized empty Git repository in /home/james/Desktop/patchy/lilypond-autobuild/.git/ fatal: attempt to fetch/clone from a shallow repository fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly It wants to have a full git clone

Re: Bounties

2012-01-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 03:01:50AM -0800, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: 1) Create an e-mail address contrib...@lilypond.org (this I can't do - can someone please do this). Can't do. Seems simple, effective, and startable in the next two weeks. I'm sure it is not perfect, but LilyPond is not

Re: Bounties

2012-01-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 03:38:21AM -0800, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:24:40 +, Graham Percival wrote: Check your email archives for our discussion on 2011 Dec 2 for all the reasons I think this is a bad idea. Given that several users have already expressed

Re: Bounties

2012-01-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 02:29:22PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2012/1/25 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: Check your email archives for our discussion on 2011 Dec 2 for all the reasons I think this is a bad idea. Sorry, but i'm searching for 10 minutes and haven't found relevant

Re: Patchy email

2012-01-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 08:29:51PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: That would be the 2240 work. I did a full make check and a build of the info documentation which in my experience is pretty much the same as a make doc but somewhat faster. If it wasn't a build from scratch, it doesn't count.

Re: Bounties

2012-01-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:09:25PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: There are already existing free software umbrella organizations that do this: one is SPI[1], another SFC[2]. Yes, I've considered suggesting (after Valentin suggested it to me) that we might want to approach SFC, but it hasn't been

Re: Patchy email

2012-01-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 09:20:18PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: WTF? That's definitely something in the changes file. I checked this and it compiled and I had code that made sure it compiled. With all the rebasing to make this fit better I must have displaced the relevant commit that

Re: Bounties

2012-01-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 02:29:28PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: I would want to avoid the situation where I have money on my hand I can't spend in good conscience. In that case, only accept transfers which you feel cover existing work (provided the sender realizes this), or transfers which are

Re: checking 2240

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:35:17PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: has less potential to go wrong if there is a problem at any time. I actually don't really understand why we bother with restoring the tree anyway instead of removing it and doing the next test from a freshly created git clone

user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?) (was: Re: music font)

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 01:50:13AM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2012/1/23 Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com: why I never *demand* developers to fix an issue, even if it is one that is really annoying my ego in almost every score I typeset. One thing comes to my mind: you are talking

somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
In order to reduce our bus factor[1] -- especially considering the distinctly non-zero possibility that I'll be gone at the end of March -- somebody else needs to run the Patchy staging-merge script. To make this more presssing, I am refusing to run this script myself after 29 Jan 2012. [1]

Re: user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?)(was: Re: music font)

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:27:56PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Of course, a 96-hour reponse rate isn't precisely fantastic, but it's a start. Well - TBH time isn't of the essence as a general rule. Whether a bug gets added to the tracker in one day or 3 rarely affects the overall

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 01:08:21PM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: 2. it would be good to have something in the CG about Patchy. ...you can do this. I have 3.5 hours remaining until Jan 29. Given how often we have emergencies come up, I think I need to reserve my time for those. If

Re: checking 2240

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 05:33:28PM -0500, Julien Rioux wrote: On 22/01/2012 2:50 PM, Graham Percival wrote: try: autoCompile.configure() autoCompile.patch(patch_filename) autoCompile.build(quick_make=True, issue_id=issue_id

Re: music-cause

2012-01-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:49:06AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Anybody actually using the music-cause? Inside of LilyPond, the only appearance (apart from its declaration) would be /* ES TODO: This is a temporary fix. Stream_events should not be aware of music. */

checking 2240 (was: 2.16 release candidate 3 imminent)

2012-01-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:35:55AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: So please accept my apologies that I can't defend this patch further today. It does not mean that I am not serious about it, and I definitely believe that if Graham double-checks the comments on this patch, he'll find the reason

Re: 2.16 release candidate 3 imminent

2012-01-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:25:39AM -0500, Julien Rioux wrote: Well, as it turns out, I could not find any version on the website where those regtests looked normal. It looks like the lilypond-book regtests had not been checked in a long time. That's what I suspected. I also could not be

Re: checking 2240

2012-01-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 07:58:09PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: In an old e-mail i've found a link to what looks like Patchy source code https://github.com/gperciva/lilypond-extra/blob/master/patches/compile_lilypond_test.py Correct. and i'm preparing a patch addressing David's advice, but i

Re: checking 2240

2012-01-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 08:16:59PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2012/1/22 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: Ideally you'd create a github account Done: janek-warchol and then I can let you push directly. No review? I hope i won't screw anything up. ok, you have push ability

Re: checking 2240

2012-01-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 08:43:26PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: One quick question: Patchy checks patches one at a time, doesn't it? I.e. applies a patch (doesn't commit), tests, unapplies and moves to another patch? ... why are you asking this question? Is the source code really *that* hard

2.16 release candidate 3 imminent

2012-01-21 Thread Graham Percival
All release-Critical issues have patches which are either on a current countdown, have been on a previous countdown, or don't make sense to be on a countdown at all and will thus be pushed in a few hours. Unless any problem are found with the current countdown'ing patches, 2.15.27 release

Re: 2.16 release candidate 3 imminent

2012-01-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 05:27:00PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: I would very much prefer the work on Issue 2240 (aka 2070) to make it into 2.16. It is a significant API change that should not occur during a stable release series, and it paves the way for making the music function work continue

Re: 2.16 release candidate 3 imminent

2012-01-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 05:02:32PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 1/21/12 9:45 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: IMO, significant API changes should not happen right before a release. Version numbers are cheap; why not have 2.18 in March 2012? Backporting is a huge hassle

Re: 2.16 release candidate 3 imminent

2012-01-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 02:28:15PM -0500, Julien Rioux wrote: I've already done so locally, and looking at the result of lilypond-book regtests, we already have new regressions: ok, good to know! I'm sure that you've done this already, but make sure that you actually try those version in

Re: music font

2012-01-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:05:46AM +0100, Xavier Scheuer wrote: I am not a developer, just a simple user. But I must say I am a bit disappointed no developer (except Janek) replied to your e-mail. And I'm a bit disappointed that you keep on whining about developers not doing what you want

Re: Patchy email

2012-01-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 02:20:09AM -0800, lilypond.patchy.gra...@gmail.com wrote: *** FAILED BUILD *** nice make doc -j3 CPU_COUNT=3 Previous good commit: 11cf086eaba246f043d553a8bafcdbf1b47b9117 Current broken commit: b667b7fe1bf651b7373014204edbe0e68f17326e

Re: Issue 2100: Explanation of branches for CG (issue 5539062)

2012-01-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 08:24:35PM +, janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: could we change this (and other similar) prefix so that it doesn't contain a slash? I mean, change dev/ to dev- or something like that. The slash confused me a lot, because it's also used to separate a remote name from

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