Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-12-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 06:37:08AM -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote: What about option 0 -- try to coordinate the resources we currently have available on the critical issues? I would like that. I'm a bit surprised to see so many people talking about branching a stable/2.14 -- I don't think that

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-12-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:04 AM  I'm willing to try it as an experiment, but I really doubt that having a separate branch would encourage more people to spend more time on critical issues.

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-12-01 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: I'll wait another day for comments in case anybody missed it due to the savannah list downtime, but I despite my objection, I'll branch stable/2.14 in the next few days unless anybody speaks heavily against it.

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-12-01 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/30/10 1:04 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 06:37:08AM -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote: What about option 0 -- try to coordinate the resources we currently have available on the critical issues? I would like that. I'm a bit surprised to see so

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-11-29 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: 2) release 2.14 ASAP with no critical flaws, but with some kind of code freeze.  Many software projects implement a freeze before a release --  when the project is frozen, this means that no changes are  allowed,

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-11-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, November 29, 2010 7:33 AM With that in mind, I'm reopening the same question as the 24 Oct email. 2) release 2.14 ASAP with no critical flaws, but with some kind of code freeze. I prefer a variant on this. Branch 2.14 now and apply only patches to critical

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-11-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/29/10 12:33 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: What do you think? This is not a vote, but I would like to hear from people. I am hoping that we can find a reasonable amount of consensus. What about option 0 -- try to coordinate the resources we currently have

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-11-29 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: 2) release 2.14 ASAP with no critical flaws, but with some kind of code freeze.  Many software projects implement a freeze before a release --  when the project is frozen, this means that no changes are  

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-11-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/29/10 4:49 AM, Valentin Villenave valen...@villenave.net wrote: (PS. Perhaps now would be as good a time as any to publicly state that I'm leaving the project by the end of the year, partly due to aforementioned dissatisfactions. So whatever I might have to say until then can, and

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-11-29 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Valentin Villenave valen...@villenave.net wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote: I also think it would be useful to have two code freezes on stable/2.14: one for code/docs, and one for translations (right before the

2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-11-28 Thread Graham Percival
A brief reminder of the timeline: - 18 Sep 2010: we need to sort out various policies, but let's wait until 2.14 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2010-09/msg00178.html - 22 Sep 2010: alpha test 1 for 2.14, only 1 critical issue