Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-15 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi David and Janek, On 14/08/13 14:30, d...@gnu.org wrote: On 2013/08/14 12:18:12, janek wrote: 2013/8/14 d...@gnu.org: would there be a technical problem to have /both/ -! and -' as shorthands for staccato? Technical? Not really except that we'd have to make a choice of convert-ly

Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-15 Thread dak
On 2013/08/15 09:22:12, Ian Hulin wrote: Hi David and Janek, On 14/08/13 14:30, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: On 2013/08/14 12:18:12, janek wrote: 2013/8/14 d...@gnu.org: would there be a technical problem to have /both/ -! and -' as shorthands for staccato? Technical? Not really except

Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-15 Thread Keith OHara
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 02:33:55 -0700, d...@gnu.org wrote: On 2013/08/15 09:22:12, Ian Hulin wrote: 1+ for -' (' is visually mnemonic for notation staccatissimo, also ' is ergonomic on my keyboard - no Shift key involved, both keys on right-hand side of main keyboard)

Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-15 Thread dak
Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net writes: '!' also looks like a staccatissimo, is a stop character so conceptually related to the '.' for staccato, conflicts less with the use of ''' in pitches: e'4-! cs-! bf-! g-! e'-! cs-! \tuplet3/2{bf- g- e-} e'4-' cs-' bf-' g-' e'-' cs-' \tuplet3/2{bf-

Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-15 Thread Ian Hulin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Keith On 15/08/13 18:18, Keith OHara wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 02:33:55 -0700, d...@gnu.org wrote: On 2013/08/15 09:22:12, Ian Hulin wrote: 1+ for -' (' is visually mnemonic for notation staccatissimo, also ' is ergonomic on my keyboard -

Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-14 Thread janek . lilypond
Hi, i'm late with my comments but i'll publish them anyway. A general question: what about using -' or -, for staccatissimo? For me they seem to be somewhat more intuitive. Janek https://codereview.appspot.com/12432043/diff/23001/lily/parser.yy File lily/parser.yy (right):

Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-14 Thread janek . lilypond
On 2013/08/14 11:41:43, janek wrote: A general question: what about using -' or -, for staccatissimo? For me they seem to be somewhat more intuitive. Additional advantage would be that they don't require Shift to produce on standard keyboard. Janek https://codereview.appspot.com/12432043/

Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-14 Thread dak
On 2013/08/14 11:43:08, janek wrote: On 2013/08/14 11:41:43, janek wrote: A general question: what about using -' or -, for staccatissimo? For me they seem to be somewhat more intuitive. Additional advantage would be that they don't require Shift to produce on standard keyboard.

Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-14 Thread Janek WarchoĊ‚
2013/8/14 d...@gnu.org: I don't really agree. staccato is -. so it seems natural for me to have staccatissimo as -! (I mean, it was -| before). In addition, ' and , are slanted in most fonts and that does not really match the visuals of staccatissimo. I crosschecked with the parser and it

Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-14 Thread dak
On 2013/08/14 12:18:12, janek wrote: 2013/8/14 d...@gnu.org: I crosschecked with the parser and it would not object to either. The only argument _for_ such a change would be more visual similarity rather than mnemonic value and that rules out -, pretty definitely. One could talk

Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-06 Thread dak
I can't really work with the comments are confusing and I don't really see that the characterization of the commit messages is accurate. I can try to reword them in a manner that puts less stress on the state before the change.

Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-06 Thread k-ohara5a5a
On 2013/08/06 10:30:44, dak wrote: I can't really work with the comments are confusing Sorry, I meant the commit message and texidoc. I don't really see that the characterization of the commit messages is accurate. It was the make special characters 'non-special' that confused me. The

Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-05 Thread lemzwerg
LGTM. Very nice! https://codereview.appspot.com/12432043/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-05 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
LGTM. Very nice! https://codereview.appspot.com/12432043/ Nice. Looking at your remarks Make tempo range \tempo 20~30 be input as \tempo 20-30 instead Dash is not particularly nice here I would expect something like \tempo #20 and \tempo #'(20 30); however I'm not sure if that would

Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-05 Thread David Kastrup
Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes: LGTM. Very nice! https://codereview.appspot.com/12432043/ Nice. Looking at your remarks Make tempo range \tempo 20~30 be input as \tempo 20-30 instead Dash is not particularly nice here I would expect something like \tempo #20 and \tempo

Re: Make several special characters with or without backslash non-special (issue 12432043)

2013-08-05 Thread k-ohara5a5a
Looks sensible. The comments are confusing. The commit message says almost the opposite of what you do. Maybe Recognize )(][~| and \! etc. in the lexer. Treat the ) in c4) like the \p command in c4\p but without the need for an escape character, and similarly for '\)' ']' '\!' etc. This