Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-12 Thread David Kastrup
Dewdman42 st...@bstage.com writes: Quite unfortunate though, lilypond is an extremely cool technology that MANY MANY people are missing out on because of things like this and particularly because of the attitude of the core developers, who are the only ones that really know how the hell it

Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-12 Thread Aaron Andrew Hunt
Hello Mr. Kastrup. People like you seem to confuse the concept of polite with servant. Ah yes, people like me. People who confuse concepts. People who are not as brilliant as yourself. You are illustrating my point exactly, Mr. Kastrup. You presume to know who I am, what I do, and what

Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-12 Thread Aaron Andrew Hunt
Hi Johannes. On May 12, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Johannes Schindelin wrote: Hi Aaron, by sending a private exchange you proved something. You still have not earned respect with this person. Look, I understand a dev list is for developers. These posts of mine have been commentary. If what I

Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-12 Thread Aaron Andrew Hunt
BTW, I completely agree this thread was not handled well, not only by me, but by everyone from its inception to the present entry which I hope is its termination. Quite an ugly business! Very bad form shown by all! I do offer my apologies for my part, and yes - by all means I hope

Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-11 Thread Dewdman42
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Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 01:50:02AM -0700, Dewdman42 wrote: 2 years and still nobody has bothered to fix lilypond so that it can create PDF's that actually look good in acroread? (sigh) I agree. Why haven't you bothered to submit patches to fix this? - Graham

Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-11 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Dewdman42 st...@bstage.com wrote: 2 years and still nobody has bothered to fix lilypond so that it can create PDF's that actually look good in acroread? (sigh) Yes, it is sad. You would almost think that noone gets paid to fix user complaints. Oh, wait.

Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-11 Thread Dewdman42
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Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-11 Thread Dewdman42
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Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-11 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Dewdman, the bigger problem is your initial email, which is itself hostile and insulting: Dewdman42 wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Dewdman42 st...@bstage.com wrote: 2 years and still nobody has bothered to fix lilypond so that it can create PDF's that actually look good in acroread?

Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-11 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Dewdman42 st...@bstage.com wrote: didn't.  The only response is fix it yourself? That's not a realistic response, THAT is a BS response from someone who does not give a damn about the lilypond user community. It's the response to someone who does not give a

Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:22:02AM -0700, Dewdman42 wrote: But, the key players dismissed it, did nothing and yes...2 years later I am a bit frustrated. My post yesterday asking why after 2 years nothing had been done, was not really too out of line if you think about it. That's garbage.

Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-11 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Graham Percival wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:22:02AM -0700, Dewdman42 wrote: But, the key players dismissed it, did nothing and yes...2 years later I am a bit frustrated. My post yesterday asking why after 2 years nothing had been done, was not really too out of line if you think about

Re: Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-11 Thread Aaron Andrew Hunt
On May 11, 2009, at 2:24 PM, lilypond-devel-requ...@gnu.org wrote: Dewdman, It might help to read this: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Essays/smart-questions.html Very interesting link! It might as well be called In Defense of Being a Complete A-Hole No, programmers / hackers are smart folks

Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-11 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 23486715.p...@talk.nabble.com, Dewdman42 st...@bstage.com writes If I knew how I would. isn't it obvious that a few people hold the power to control the development of lilypond while the rest of us are mere mortals? It's Free Software. He who puts in the effort makes the rules. I

Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-11 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Aaron Andrew Hunt wrote: On May 11, 2009, at 2:24 PM, lilypond-devel-requ...@gnu.org wrote: Dewdman, It might help to read this: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Essays/smart-questions.html Very interesting link! It might as well be called In Defense of Being a Complete A-Hole No, programmers /

Re: Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-11 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Mon, 11 May 2009, Aaron Andrew Hunt wrote: On May 11, 2009, at 2:24 PM, lilypond-devel-requ...@gnu.org wrote: Dewdman, It might help to read this: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Essays/smart-questions.html Very interesting link! It might as well be called In Defense of Being a Complete

Re: PDF Problem

2009-05-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
But, the key players dismissed it, did nothing and yes...2 years later I am a bit frustrated. My post yesterday asking why after 2 years nothing had been done, was not really too out of line if you think about it. One of the key players, Rune, has passed away. We can answer your request

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-20 Thread Rune Zedeler
Han-Wen Nienhuys skrev: Sounds like bullock's manure to me. You are right - the problem is not really related to this. I still think that we should change to 1/72 inch instead if 1/72.27 inch because this way all staff lines will have same distance on paper and on screen, whereas with

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-20 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
2007/7/20, Rune Zedeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You are right - the problem is not really related to this. I still think that we should change to 1/72 inch instead if 1/72.27 inch because this way all staff lines will have same distance on paper and on screen, whereas with 1/72.27 it may seldomly

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Rune Zedeler
Okay, I took a look. I understand why the viewers have problems with lilypond's pdfs: For some reason lilypond does loads of conversions to and from millimeters. I think it has something to do with lily defining one point to be 1/72.27 inch, whereas a postscript (and pdf) point is 1/72 inch.

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Rune Zedeler
Rune Zedeler skrev: I understand why the viewers have problems with lilypond's pdfs: For some reason lilypond does loads of conversions to and from millimeters. Oh, I never learn not to post comments late at night. The above really had nothing (afaics) to do with the problem. It should be

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Steve Schow
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Re: [bug?] eps versus pdf problem?

2006-06-07 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
). However, in the PDF manual, the same example shows up perfectly. Hence, I guess this behaviour is probably an eps versus pdf problem rather than a problem of the ligature implementation, right? Greetings, Juergen P.S.: I can eliminate the symptom in the manual by slightly modifying the example

Re: [bug?] eps versus pdf problem?

2006-06-07 Thread Graham Percival
On 7-Jun-06, at 12:53 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: it could be that the BBox of the EPS file is broken (eg. if dimension calculations are off); that could result in an empty EPS bbox, which is correctly translated to PNG. FWIW, today I noticed that the BB of the first example in 8.2.3

[bug?] eps versus pdf problem?

2006-06-06 Thread Juergen Reuter
manual, the same example shows up perfectly. Hence, I guess this behaviour is probably an eps versus pdf problem rather than a problem of the ligature implementation, right? Greetings, Juergen P.S.: I can eliminate the symptom in the manual by slightly modifying the example, but I guess finding