Re: casual contributors (was: patch going unpushed)

2012-04-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 05:49:24PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Peter Chubb wrote: > > One issue is that the `How to participate' webpage at > > http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/ doesn't point people at > > Rietveld -- it just tells them (slightly incorr

Re: casual contributors (was: patch going unpushed)

2012-04-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Peter Chubb wrote: > One issue is that the `How to participate' webpage at > http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/ doesn't point people at > Rietveld -- it just tells them (slightly incorrectly: there's a typo > in git format-patch) to send a patch > to lilyp

Re: casual contributors (was: patch going unpushed)

2012-04-04 Thread Peter Chubb
> "Graham" == Graham Percival writes: Graham> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:40:43PM +, James wrote: >> >> >> Graham> We don't really have a frog meister, so nobody is taking >> >> Graham> responsibility for pushing >> >> Graham> We should have somebody who takes care of contributors withou

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-29 Thread James
Hello, 2012/3/23 Janek Warchoł : > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 8:06 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> "What impressed you most about the LilyPond code base?"  "No comment." >> "But I really want to know!" "I just told you." > > LOL!!  That's a quote-of-the-month! > Janek :D > Having just read his thread I

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 08:06:23PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > > Engineering student numbers have dropped significantly > at my former university, and it is to be expected that standards were > adjusted downwards in order to get enough students back (we have state > education almost exclusively,

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 8:06 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > "What impressed you most about the LilyPond code base?"  "No comment." > "But I really want to know!" "I just told you." LOL!! That's a quote-of-the-month! Janek :D ___ lilypond-devel mailing lis

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread David Kastrup
ween the top > scientists+engineers and everybody else. And that means that the degree is less worth as a means of securing a reputation and a job. > Anyway, this is rather far afield from getting help for casual > contributors to lilypond. :) Ah, but our code base is rather musical: &q

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread Graham Percival
e. There are some people who do amazing stuff these days: spaceX, machine learning at google, the plummeting cost of DNA analysis, etc. But there seems to be a growing rift between the top scientists+engineers and everybody else. Anyway, this is rather far afield from getting help for casual contributors to lilypond. :) - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:11:21AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> Graham Percival writes: >> >> > But hey, it's my job to teach them >> > at whatever level they're at, right? >> >> Nope. It is your job to teach them from the level they should have left >> high school

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 06:36:43AM -0600, Colin Campbell wrote: > On 12-03-23 12:28 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > > >We need a *secretary*. We need a *paper pusher*. We need a trained > >monkey. > > I could take it on, Graham, especially if the countdown process gets > automated. I read -user, -d

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:11:21AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > But hey, it's my job to teach them > > at whatever level they're at, right? > > Nope. It is your job to teach them from the level they should have left > high school with. After two terms of electric

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread Colin Campbell
On 12-03-23 06:42 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Colin Campbell writes: On 12-03-23 12:28 AM, Graham Percival wrote: I cannot emphasize how little I want from the frog meister, other than keeping up with email on a daily basis and looking at the countdown when it finishes three times a week. I co

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread David Kastrup
Colin Campbell writes: > On 12-03-23 12:28 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > >> I cannot emphasize how little I want from the frog meister, other >> than keeping up with email on a daily basis and looking at the >> countdown when it finishes three times a week. > > I could take it on, Graham, especial

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread Colin Campbell
On 12-03-23 12:28 AM, Graham Percival wrote: We need a *secretary*. We need a *paper pusher*. We need a trained monkey. I could even teach a first-year university student how to be a perfect Frog meister, and having taught for a few years you have no idea how low my opinion of those creatur

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 07:44:45AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> Graham Percival writes: >> >> > We need a *secretary*. We need a *paper pusher*. We need a >> > trained monkey. I could even teach a first-year university >> > student how to be a perfect Frog meister

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 07:44:45AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> Graham Percival writes: >> >> > We need a *secretary*. We need a *paper pusher*. We need a >> > trained monkey. I could even teach a first-year university >> > student how to be a perfect Frog meister

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 07:44:45AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > We need a *secretary*. We need a *paper pusher*. We need a > > trained monkey. I could even teach a first-year university > > student how to be a perfect Frog meister, and having taught for a > > few

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-22 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > We need a *secretary*. We need a *paper pusher*. We need a > trained monkey. I could even teach a first-year university > student how to be a perfect Frog meister, and having taught for a > few years you have no idea how low my opinion of those creatures > are. They

Re: casual contributors (was: patch going unpushed)

2012-03-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 07:11:27AM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Graham Percival > wrote: > > So yes, you've been doing everything right.  We simply don't have > > anybody who is willing to do ~30 minutes of admin work per week to

Re: casual contributors (was: patch going unpushed)

2012-03-22 Thread Janek Warchoł
rog > meister, this falls down. > > So yes, you've been doing everything right.  We simply don't have > anybody who is willing to do ~30 minutes of admin work per week to > help casual contributors. For the record, i was frog meister for some time and i have to say that depending

Re: casual contributors (was: patch going unpushed)

2012-03-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:40:43PM +, James wrote: > > >> Graham> We don't really have a frog meister, so nobody is taking > >> Graham> responsibility for pushing > >> > >>    I have another patch waiting, that depends on the first. > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel >

Re: casual contributors (was: patch going unpushed)

2012-03-22 Thread James
Hello On 22 March 2012 23:37, Graham Percival wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 08:18:26AM +1100, Peter Chubb wrote: >> Hi Graham, >> >> Graham> We don't really have a frog meister, so nobody is taking >> Graham> responsibility for pushing >> >>    I have another patch waiting, that depends on the

casual contributors (was: patch going unpushed)

2012-03-22 Thread Graham Percival
n you're supposed to upload a patch, and the frog meister should keep track of your patch and take care of all the details. But since we don't have a frog meister, this falls down. So yes, you've been doing everything right. We simply don't have anybody who is willing to do ~3