On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
David,
I realize that you are angry, but please stop using words like
monkey
I'm responsible for monkey. You asked to stop using it, but i
continued to do so (not because of malice - i just didn't find good
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 06:23:57PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
- Original Message - From: Trevor Daniels
t.dani...@treda.co.uk
a) a release-meister with responsibility to take all decisions.
That's what Han-Wen used to do, I believe.
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
David,
I realize that you are angry, but please stop using words like
monkey
I'm responsible for monkey. You asked to stop using it, but i
continued to do so
Hi,
i said that i'll post an answer to this thread, so here it is :)
David and Graham are clearly speaking from two different points of
view. Or, to be (hopefully) more accurate, they are on two orthogonal
planes.
David is an experienced developer. He can judge LilyPond code better
than many
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
i said that i'll post an answer to this thread, so here it is :)
David and Graham are clearly speaking from two different points of
view. Or, to be (hopefully) more accurate, they are on two orthogonal
planes.
David is an experienced
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:27 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
Graham's focus is on transparent /rules/ that are easy to follow, and
preferably won't lay *too* much responsibility on Release Manager's
shoulders.
To be exact: none.
And,
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:27 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
Graham's focus is on transparent /rules/ that are easy to follow, and
preferably won't lay *too* much responsibility on Release
David Kastrup wrote Friday, July 13, 2012 4:27 PM
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
This is important, too, because Graham won't always be the Project
Manager. It's also not guaranteed that there'll always be an
experienced developer with sufficient time to handle release
- Original Message -
From: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk
To: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org; Janek Warchoł
janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: clear policy discussions
a) a release-meister with responsibility to take
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes:
David Kastrup wrote Friday, July 13, 2012 4:27 PM
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
This is important, too, because Graham won't always be the Project
Manager. It's also not guaranteed that there'll always be an
experienced
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes:
- Original Message -
From: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk
To: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org; Janek Warchoł
janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: clear policy discussions
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:43 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
Obviously, Graham would like to dumb down the rules as much as
possible indeed (as long as he is the Release Manager it means less
work for him). But he didn't say that the rules
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:43 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
In particular since it would make those others feel like they count,
do something for the success of the project, and are part of a
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 06:23:57PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
- Original Message - From: Trevor Daniels
t.dani...@treda.co.uk
a) a release-meister with responsibility to take all decisions.
That's what Han-Wen used to do, I believe. It worked
quite well, although Graham will have
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 05:27:57PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
And, above all, won't require the Release Manager to be an expert
programmer.
Or communicator. Or look at recent issue reports more thoroughly than
counting Critical labels to
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:51:11PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
I'll only address meta-discussion points here.
What about the next one? Phil has been learning how to do it, and I
certainly
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:21:38PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
I mean, we have too few categories for regressions. I can see the
following:
-snip-
My personal opinion is that
My personal opinion is that we should not discuss major policy
changes in the middle of a thread about dots and staff
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:21:38PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
I mean, we have too few categories for regressions. I can see the
following:
-snip-
My personal opinion is that
My personal opinion is that we should not discuss major policy
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 09:06:10PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
My personal opinion is that we should not discuss major policy
changes in the middle of a thread about dots and staff sizes.
It was in the course of changing the status to
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 09:06:10PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
My personal opinion is that we should not discuss major policy
changes in the middle of a thread about dots and staff sizes.
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:51:11PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
I'll only address meta-discussion points here.
What about the next one? Phil has been learning how to do it, and I
certainly won't call *him* a trained monkey... but his
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