Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-12 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
On za, 2009-07-11 at 07:00 -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: bzr diff -r29..30 sap.1 manpage.patch Now, it worked, but to me this is harder than git. I think the equiivalent is a bundle. Also, bzr supports realative revisions, eg bzr diff -r-1: probably does it.

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-11 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
On vr, 2009-07-10 at 16:14 -0700, Graham Percival wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:42:09AM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: 2009/7/10 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: So... do we launch a shiny new 2.14 release with the old sucky website, resulting in more users sending confused

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-11 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: However, I very much argued in favour of bazaar, for the very reasons you cite. The bazaar project has as usability, ease of use and good documentation as a prime goal -- and also does very well in these areas -- much unlike git. Although git has improved a bit here

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-11 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
On vr, 2009-07-10 at 03:17 -0700, Graham Percival wrote: I tried adding an SCons build system for the website, but I'm not at all impressed by the result after an hour. But if we *do* switch to SCons or waf or cmake (hopefully not) or whatever, I'll learn that new system. Have a look at

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-11 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Here's my thoughts: - probably 95% of our users read English well. - the new website is way better than the old website.  Not so much  for downloading, but the Introduction, Documentation, and  Community pages

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-11 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Basically, my misadventures on Wed night / Thurs day  (the essay stuff, not getting much done in SCons, and accidently losing an hour's worth of stuff in git) left me really dispirited and disinterested in any

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 04:36:25PM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Basically, my misadventures on Wed night / Thurs day  (the essay stuff, not getting much done in SCons, and accidently losing an hour's worth

delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
Unless there's a totally unexpected deluge of help for the website from my recent plea on the -user list, I can't imagine it being ready for 2.14. And I can't recommend delaying 2.14 just for a new website. That said, I still think that the new website would better meet the needs of most users,

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-10 Thread John Mandereau
2009/7/10 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: Unless there's a totally unexpected deluge of help for the website from my recent plea on the -user list, I can't imagine it being ready for 2.14.  And I can't recommend delaying 2.14 just for a new website. There are a few technical bits

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-10 Thread John Mandereau
Sorry, I still don't master Google webmail key bindings well :-( 2009/7/11 John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com: work on bits of the translation infrastructure that have been dela lot delayed. I meant that have been delayed a lot. Best, John

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-10 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/7/11 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: What about switching to the new website, but adding a note on the first page to say that it hasn't been translated yet, but those preferring other languages can browse the old website *here link*? I vote for this. The note should be