Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-15 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: Perhaps it would be clearer if we started with single-staff polyphony with named and explicitly created voices, along with the \voiceOne through \voiceFour properties. We could then introduce the \\ syntax as a simple way to handle music where we don't care that

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:03:00 +0200 Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl D. Sorensen wrote: We could then introduce the \\ syntax as a simple way to handle music where we don't care that temporary voices are created and then discarded. Seriously, how many of you had a full

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-15 Thread Francisco Vila
I have done the reordering, please help me translating it from English to English where necessary. http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/user/simultaneous.itely;h=62618eb377efc8ef96a8b26837f95c2bce12da80;hb=3dab373f67842d0bf775a4cbbad3d47dd607df12 A preview of

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-15 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 8/15/08 3:25 AM, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:03:00 +0200 Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl D. Sorensen wrote: I would propose to still introduce the {...} \\ {...} feature first, but with some bells and whistles saying that you might

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-15 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/8/15 Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My model for the Learning Manual is that it answers the question How do I do something? The Notation Reference tells me How do I solve problems with something in the LM?, or How do I extend what I learned in the LM?. The shortcuts we learn in

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-15 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Graham Percival wrote: I would propose to still introduce the {...} \\ {...} feature first, but with some bells and whistles saying that you might get problems together with lyrics and automatic beaming and telling where to look at that time. In the LM, definitely. In the NR, these

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:03:15 -0600 Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/15/08 3:25 AM, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the LM, definitely. In the NR, these warnings might be more prominent, and/or Carl's suggestion about delaying {} \\ {} until later in the

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-15 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 8/15/08 4:39 PM, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:03:15 -0600 Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/15/08 3:25 AM, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My model for the Learning Manual is that it answers the question How do I do something?

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/8/13 Carl Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1) At the end of Single staff polypohony: This is a better construct to keep control of the voices, for example, to ease a consistent assign of lyrics to the proper voice context. might be better worded as This construct keeps a voice alive

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco wrote Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:05 AM @lilypond [guote, verbatim, relative =1] \new Staff { \context Voice = mel { c4 { \voiceOne g' g } \new Voice { \voiceTwo e e } \oneVoice g } } \new Lyrics

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/8/14 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: \new Voice is definitely better here. This is not a good place to explain \context, but I think it would be good to say a little more about explicitly instantiating voices. Just a sentence with a ref to that section in the Learning Manual would

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-14 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 8/14/08 4:05 AM, Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/13 Carl Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: @lilypond [guote, verbatim, relative =1] \new Staff { \context Voice = mel { c4 { \voiceOne g' g } \new Voice { \voiceTwo e

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-14 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 8/14/08 9:47 AM, Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/14 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: \new Voice is definitely better here. This is not a good place to explain \context, but I think it would be good to say a little more about explicitly instantiating voices. Just a

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/8/14 Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've looked at the new change, and I think it's understandable. Perhaps it would be clearer if we started with single-staff polyphony with named and explicitly created voices, along with the \voiceOne through \voiceFour properties. We could then

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-14 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 8/14/08 5:21 PM, Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That said, I don't see when could I seriously start working on Vocal music. I have two choices: a) Reword or reorder the section and leave Vocal to Trevor or any other GDP hero. b) Leave Simultaneous as is for 2.12 and try to

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/8/15 Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That said, I don't see when could I seriously start working on Vocal music. I have two choices: a) Reword or reorder the section and leave Vocal to Trevor or any other GDP hero. b) Leave Simultaneous as is for 2.12 and try to gain some advance on

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/8/15 Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: IIRC, I had mentioned I could take Vocal when I'm done with Text. As I'm finishing my opera I'm progressing quite slowly right now, but be assured if you don't do Vocal, then someone will (namely me, if we haven't found anybody else until then).

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:03:48 +0200 Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/15 Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That said, I don't see when could I seriously start working on Vocal music. I have two choices: a) Reword or reorder the section and leave Vocal to Trevor or any

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-13 Thread Carl Sorensen
Francisco Vila paconet.org at gmail.com writes: I've been away, Simultaneous needs a slight retouch. Francisco, I was just rereading Simultaneous. I found a couple of changes I'd like to recommend: 1) At the end of Single staff polypohony: This is a better construct to keep control of

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Rather than mel could you please use melody? This make it easier for the translators. Trevor - Original Message - From: Carl Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:22 PM Subject: Re: finished second draft? Francisco Vila paconet.org

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-07 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently officially on Second draft: 1.3 Expressive marks My latest changes to NR 1.3 are now in Git. Except for the possible inspirational headword change (which can wait), this section is complete. It's definitely

finished second draft?

2008-08-06 Thread Graham Percival
Currently officially on Second draft: 1.3 Expressive marks /lili 1.5 Simultaneous notes /lili 2.2 Keyboard instruments /lili 2.4 Fretted string instruments If any of these are finished, let me know and I'll move them into the ``finished'' category, and Ralph will start indexing them. Cheers, -

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-06 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
Please hold on Fretted String Instruments. I'm currently almost done with Predefined Fret Diagrams, which will add a section to Fretted String Instruments (and will lead to reorganization). The new organization on Fret Diagrams will be: Fret Diagram Markups Predefined Fret Diagrams Automatic

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-06 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
I'm done with Keyboards. Cheers, Andrew On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please hold on Fretted String Instruments. I'm currently almost done with Predefined Fret Diagrams, which will add a section to Fretted String Instruments (and will lead to