delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
Unless there's a totally unexpected deluge of help for the website from my recent plea on the -user list, I can't imagine it being ready for 2.14. And I can't recommend delaying 2.14 just for a new website. That said, I still think that the new website would better meet the needs of most users,

Re: Patch: Delete intermediate ps files

2009-07-10 Thread Maximilian Albert
2009/7/10 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: I've just got the same error.  It's caused by Graham's essay makefile hacking. Sorry, I'll branch a dev/graham and then revert it. OK, thanks. Now the docs compiled fine and I could check that the result of my patch is as intended. Any

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-10 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Montag, 22. Juni 2009 15:31:14 schrieb Joe Neeman: A quick update on the new vertical spacing: [...] Anything I've missed? While the new vertical spacing looks great for full scores (one system per page), I have now run into a case where the old system worked much better. In particular,

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Please note that if you sign your messages in this way people using default Windows mail systems can't read them easily, and will most probably just ignore them. They appear as shown below. Perhaps we could install PGP, but I probably will not bother, as only you and one other on

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-10 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 10. Juli 2009 17:23:50 schrieb Trevor Daniels: Reinhold Please note that if you sign your messages in this way people using default Windows mail systems can't read them easily, and will most probably just ignore them. Ah, sorry, my

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-10 Thread James E. Bailey
On 10.07.2009, at 18:18, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 10. Juli 2009 17:23:50 schrieb Trevor Daniels: Reinhold Please note that if you sign your messages in this way people using default Windows mail systems can't read them easily, and

improving NR B.6 The Feta Font

2009-07-10 Thread Mark Polesky
I was having trouble finding glyphs in NR B.6, so I reorganized things. I'm not saying I used the best approach, but I think this would be an improvement. Any comments or suggestions? A better approach? See the attached file. Thanks. - Mark #(set-global-staff-size 16) #(begin ;; some

Re: improving NR B.6 The Feta Font

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:51:19PM -0700, Mark Polesky wrote: I was having trouble finding glyphs in NR B.6, so I reorganized things. I'm not saying I used the best approach, but I think this would be an improvement. Any comments or suggestions? A better approach? See the attached file. Looks

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Patrick McCartypnor...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have posted another patch to Rietveld: http://codereview.appspot.com/91075/show It addresses all of the Bugs with solutions listed on the wiki page: http://wiki.lilynet.net/index.php/SVG_backend Does anyone

Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
I'm trying to finish up the revisions to the autobeaming code. I've got it working just fine when I compile from the command line. But when snippets are included in the docs, they seem to compile different than from the command line. I'll take a snippet that's in the docs (not one that's

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 03:37:36PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: Is there a different version of LilyPond called when make doc is running? I can't figure out what the story is. Any clues would be appreciated. There's different formatting options. - you can see (probably) the right options in

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/7/10 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: I'll take a snippet that's in the docs (not one that's included as a file), copy it to a .ly file, wrap it in \relative c''{}, and everything works fine. But when I compile the docs with make doc, the snippet doesn't work. Can you explain in more

web/ is still the main website

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
Hi Jan, If RMS hadn't tied all those lisp scripts to an editor, I'd be running them every day. :P Seriously, editor-specific really useful scripts was a *huge* mistake. (does anybody know of a lightweight process-text-file-with-emacs-script foo program?) Anyway, somebody with git knowledge

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/10/09 3:58 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: On 7/10/09 3:43 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 03:37:36PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: Is there a different version of LilyPond called when make doc is running? I can't figure

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 03:58:29PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: When run from the command line, the output that results is attached as FromCommandLine.png. Are you running lilypond foo.ly ? That will call the lilypond from your PATH, which is probably a GUB version. Alternatively, if you

Re: improving NR B.6 The Feta Font

2009-07-10 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/7/10 Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com: I was having trouble finding glyphs in NR B.6, so I reorganized things. I'm not saying I used the best approach, but I think this would be an improvement. Any comments or suggestions? A better approach? See the attached file. I like it. Though it

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-10 Thread John Mandereau
2009/7/10 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: Unless there's a totally unexpected deluge of help for the website from my recent plea on the -user list, I can't imagine it being ready for 2.14.  And I can't recommend delaying 2.14 just for a new website. There are a few technical bits

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/10/09 3:33 PM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Patrick McCartypnor...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have posted another patch to Rietveld: http://codereview.appspot.com/91075/show It addresses all of the Bugs with solutions listed on the

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-10 Thread John Mandereau
Sorry, I still don't master Google webmail key bindings well :-( 2009/7/11 John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com: work on bits of the translation infrastructure that have been dela lot delayed. I meant that have been delayed a lot. Best, John

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/10/09 4:13 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 03:58:29PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: When run from the command line, the output that results is attached as FromCommandLine.png. Are you running lilypond foo.ly ? That will call the

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread John Mandereau
2009/7/11 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: Ahh -- there is a clue here that I hadn't noticed before.  The comments in the code are different in the snippet from  rhythms.itely and the doc output. That means that the snippet in rhythms.itely is *not* the one that is being compiled for the

Re: [Patch] Replace deprecated md5 module by hashlib

2009-07-10 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/7/9 Maximilian Albert maximilian.alb...@googlemail.com: 2009/7/9 Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl: On do, 2009-07-09 at 21:41 +0900, Maximilian Albert wrote: Hi, while running the regtests I spotted a warning about the use of the deprecated md5 module in

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/10/09 4:58 PM, John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/11 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: Ahh -- there is a clue here that I hadn't noticed before.  The comments in the code are different in the snippet from  rhythms.itely and the doc output. That means that the

Re: [Patch] Replace deprecated md5 module by hashlib

2009-07-10 Thread John Mandereau
2009/7/11 Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com: How about using a `try' block to import conditionally? Alternatively, a conditional block based on testing sys.hexversion, which is already used in lilypond-book, could help. Cheers, John ___

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Carl Sorensenc_soren...@byu.edu wrote: On 7/10/09 3:33 PM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Patrick McCartypnor...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have posted another patch to Rietveld:

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:46:18PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: But the fonts aren't installed right for my Inkscape, so I couldn't see any of the feta font stuff. Can you produce instructions for installing the fonts properly for Inkscape? And by could you produce instructions, Carl means

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:46:18PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: But the fonts aren't installed right for my Inkscape, so I couldn't see any of the feta font stuff.  Can you produce instructions for installing the

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:25:00PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote: And by could you produce instructions, Carl means could you patch AU 3.2.2, since evidently the instructions there don't work any more. There

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread John Mandereau
2009/7/11 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: The difference is two lines of comments.  The one that is showing up in the docs is an older version than the one that is currently in rhythms.itely. Please note that the snippet is not an included file, but is actually part of the text in

Re: web/ is still the main website

2009-07-10 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/7/10 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: Hi Jan, If RMS hadn't tied all those lisp scripts to an editor, I'd be running them every day.  :P   Seriously, editor-specific really useful scripts was a *huge* mistake. (does anybody know of a lightweight

Re: web/ is still the main website

2009-07-10 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/7/10 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: Hi Jan, If RMS hadn't tied all those lisp scripts to an editor, I'd be running them every day.  :P   Seriously, editor-specific really useful scripts was a *huge* mistake. (does anybody know of a lightweight

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:25:00PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote: And by could you produce instructions, Carl means could you patch

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:46:40PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote: You're fine, Patrick.  Carl hasn't read AU 3.2.2, so I was making a cheeky comment.  You may recall that a similar thing happened recently with

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:46:40PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote: You're fine, Patrick.  Carl hasn't read AU 3.2.2, so I was making

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Carl Sorensenc_soren...@byu.edu wrote: On 7/10/09 5:32 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:25:00PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote: And by

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-10 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/7/11 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: What about switching to the new website, but adding a note on the first page to say that it hasn't been translated yet, but those preferring other languages can browse the old website *here link*? I vote for this. The note should be

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/10/09 5:52 PM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Carl Sorensenc_soren...@byu.edu wrote: On 7/10/09 5:32 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:25:00PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread John Mandereau
2009/7/11 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: Similiar stuff has happened to me, but since it involves the build process, I never bothered trying to track down the problem.  I just do a make clean, make web-clean (that's probably doc-clean now), and regenerate everything. You could

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-10 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Reinhold Kainhoferreinh...@kainhofer.com wrote: Am Montag, 22. Juni 2009 15:31:14 schrieb Joe Neeman: A quick update on the new vertical spacing: [...] Anything I've missed? While the new vertical spacing looks great for full scores (one system per page), I