David Feuer wrote:
On 4/4/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Feuer wrote:
music-drawing-routines.ps to indicate level 2. I really don't have
the time to set myself up to compile the LilyPond sources. Could you
setting yourself is actually very easy nowadays, at least
David Feuer wrote:
On 4/4/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Feuer wrote:
music-drawing-routines.ps to indicate level 2. I really don't have
the time to set myself up to compile the LilyPond sources. Could you
setting yourself is actually very easy nowadays, at least
.
Perhaps we can come to a hybrid? Ie.
- improve the 2.9 manual only with documentation for new functionality
- improve the 2.8 manual only for things that didn't change in 2.9
- front-port the 2.8 documentation patches to 2.9 every once in a while.
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Erik Sandberg wrote:
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 20.42, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
I'd start with 4. because they're independent from the rest, and we can
readily test the rest of those.
I'm now reworking repeats. While I'm at it, I attempt to generally clean up
the repeat code.
No, better
is not connected to Stream_event at
all. Why not make
Listener::listen (SCM)
iso.
Listener::listen (Stream_event*)
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// Collect all listener lists.
struct { int prio; SCM list; } lists[num_classes+1];
int i = 0;
for (SCM cl = class_list; cl != SCM_EOL; cl = scm_cdr (cl))
also, always use scm_is_pair() iso. checking for SCM_EOL.This will
crash on malformed lists
lily (and its various little hiccups, like new functionality in
CVS and docs that I can't compile until a new unstable GUB release).
OK, sounds as if we have decided then :)
Just drop me a line when I should update lilypond.org with the latest
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Pedro Kröger wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hmmm; part of the problem might also stem from using CVS, which
doesn't have good cherry-picking for patches.
would it be a solution to use darcs only for the manual? I know there
are some ways of syncing darcs and cvs, so maybe
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
If we go this route, we could better do it right immediately, and setup
a bzr/darcs/monotone/git/etc. based infrastructure rightaway.
I mean, for the entire lilypond repository.
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message is
caused by something else...
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Werner LEMBERG wrote:
Why do you enforce g++ 4.0 for 2.9?
My g++ 3.3.3 works just fine.
I believe there are issues with STL that we hacked workarounds for. We
want to loose the workarounds.
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try to
measure the speed of the ppc version on your intel mac.
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You are partially right. The graphical part is still powerpc. However,
the real typesetting program (which you can find inside the .app folder)
has been compiled for intel natively. If in doubt, you can try to
measure the speed of the ppc version on your intel mac
the
2006-04-05 David Feuer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
line to the ChangeLog? Also, if possible, the
* file: comment
lines should be all indented by a single TAB.
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. Basically, you can associate a unique identifier with each
grob, and then store object property tweaks together with that
identifier, in a separate file. The tweaks are then completely separated
from the music.
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Werner LEMBERG wrote:
I've fixed it by myself in the CVS :-)
cool! don't forget to backport.
How do I do this?
check out the lilypond_2_8 branch, and apply your fix there as well.
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Can you redo the patch? The limitation is just laziness. We might want
to write a code generator to just generate these signatures up to 10
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Laura Conrad wrote:
I really don't see why lilypond-book can't do that or something
similar for me.
patches thoughtfully considered.
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Hi Joe,
any news on the new line breaking patches? shouldn't we move to
include them in lp 2.9 ?
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leaves being arbitrary scheme
expressions that produce output. When the back end can't look inside
the box, it can't figure out the best way to deal with the contents.
Perhaps, but it was an easy solution for what we needed: a way of
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They participate, in that their dimension fields are used for various
computations. Simply said, a stencil is a combination of output format
and a bbox.
Once a stencil is constructed, is it ever adjusted
you're right. Do you have a specific idea you'd like to work on?
FWIW, it would be cool if we could add a libgnomeprint backend to lily,
so we could have direct PDF generation, without requiring Ghostscript.
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. I believe you can also use them to access C structs.
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called back, Lilypond formats the
first page and returns it to the first fragment, etc.
I don't understand. The entire \book is formatted in one a global
processing step, since page breaking is a global optimization There is
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not possible to
have more than one backend active: some parts, in particular the text
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Joe Neeman wrote:
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 00:48, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Hi Joe,
any news on the new line breaking patches? shouldn't we move to
include them in lp 2.9 ?
I'm flat out until Monday, so I'll try to start sending things then. The
current status is that the big missing feature
the problem that the penalties are arbitrary values.
Currently, Lilypond might conceivably ignore a user-forced \break if it
causes the forces to work out too badly.
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interesting test examples.
This is really something different. To solve this, we should rather
introduce some convexity in the penalties, so one perfect plus two
extremes is much worse than three so-so lines.
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Joe Neeman wrote:
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:02, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Juergen Reuter wrote:
Maybe I am totally wrong, but this discussion reminds me of an issue
that I raised on Nov 18, last year; see the thread starting here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2005-11/msg00088
try
-b scm
David Feuer wrote:
Is there an option I can pass to LilyPond to get it to print out
representations of its stencils? I see code for something like that,
but I don't see how to activate it.
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of the penalty should have the same dimension,
otherwise you might get different balancing in components when using
different line lengths, spacing options, etc.
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The changes were made with hints from the GSview author, with the primary purpose of making GSview grok the code. I readily admit that my postscript knowledge is virtually nonexistent. Feel free to submit patches to make lily create sane PS.
2006/4/16, John Hawkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
And BTW,
2006/4/14, David Feuer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Does scm/guile not have such funtions for pairs/complex vectors?It probably does support complex numbers.Complex numbers, however,are conceptually quite different from 2D vectors, and I don't feelcomfortable conflating them.It's up to you and Han, of
2006/4/20, John Hawkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I have to wonder, then if there is not some subtle bug in fontforge'sType42 encoding that is making these HP printers die. I don't claimthat HP has a rock solid PS implementation, but most of the time it ispretty decent.
that's very well possible. FF is
you could try running with -dgs-font-load, but you're going to have an updated/patched version for Ghostscript to do that.2006/4/20, Gérard Milmeister
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:I would like to package 2.8.1 for Fedora Extras. There seems to
be a problem with the version 1.6 of guile shipped withFC5.
2006/4/21, Gérard Milmeister [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
you could try running with -dgs-font-load, but you're going to have anupdated/patched version for Ghostscript to do that.That doesn't do either. The idea is to build with the versionsavailable in FC.
that's not possible.
Joe Neeman schreef:
My bad, sorry. Patch attached.
2006-04-25 Joe Neeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* lily/stem-tremolo.cc (print): fix whole note tremolo placement
* input/regression/stem-tremolo.ly: add 2 more whole note examples
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it. This behavior would be switchable with a property.
I could add this feature for 130 EUR (incl. VAT for EU individuals)
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with using should probably
be in a separate document, since that process is in a large part
external to lily.
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by that function; splitting
the file into two modules would feel artificial/meaningless.
no, just do it.
Can you take the above comments into consideration, and test whether
make web still works, and then commit?
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of Col_desc. Did you verify
that make web can run unscathed? Also, have you considered
registering with savannah to get CVS access?
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Werner LEMBERG schreef:
Han-Wen, is there any reason why we don't convert the Century fonts to
OTF, similar to the lilypond fonts? This would be another solution to
no, not that I remember.
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Joe Neeman schreef:
This patch represents my changes to line spacing over several weeks so
it's fairly big. Most of it is intertwined, though, so I can't
separate it much except for some of the small changes in paper-score
and system.
this patch looks good, except
to turn up
all kinds of bugs and compatibility problems in
PostScript/GhostScript/acrobat/etc. It would be a good thing if we could
outsource that effort to another project.
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it in the build directory.
this is red herring; make/lilypond-vars.make sets LILYPONDPREFIX,
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David Feuer wrote:
On 4/27/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frankly, I'm a bit mystified why you're spending so much time on
building the ultimate postscript backend. The backend is not a
performance bottleneck. If you think the current PS code is inefficient,
then you should
guess it's time to upgrade...
You could also export a ly:inf? from lilypond.
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of time. By contrast, having a continuous distance measure
between different outputs would speed development up tremendously,
because we will be able to spot and repair bugs as soon as they crop up.
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David Feuer schreef:
On 5/1/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Given that we haven't had anyone writing or modifying the backend in the
past 5 years, I doubt that there is much need for this.
I've been working on it ...
yes, but using your work as an argument for your work
Graham Percival schreef:
On 2-May-06, at 5:05 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
+++ lilypond/Documentation/user/GNUmakefileTue May 2 12:05:28 2006
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
# todo: add latex.
DVI_FILES = $(TELY_FILES:%.tely=$(outdir)/%.dvi)
-EXTRA_DIST_FILES= $(LATEX_FILES) $(IMAGES
vertically and horizontally by
two pixels. This typically gives a huge difference (all staff lines and
stems will no longer overlap), but there really is (almost) no change in
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David Feuer schreef:
On 5/2/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're relying on specifics of music notation, eg. existence of ledger
lines and bar lines. What do you do when there are just lyrics or chord
names, or when there are no barlines (unmetered music) or no noteheads
localize the discrepancies by their bounding
boxes, we could annotate the EPS files with glaring red circles that
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2006/5/3, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
During the past week I haven't been able to make web with unpatched CVS, so this requirement is rather tough (currently laissez-vibrer-ties.ly causes a segfault).
Strange. I may have let a bug slip. It's running now.that was a bug, but it's fixed now
Joe Neeman schreef:
On Mon, 1 May 2006 11:04, Joe Neeman wrote:
On Mon, 1 May 2006 10:04, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
If you have checked that the regtest document
looks ok, please apply the spacing patch too.
I have a couple regressions that may be caused by my spacing patch (or
maybe by some
is that lots of computations are symmetrical
in up/down/left/right, so it makes sense to have a representation that
you can compute with.
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. Getting a value near 1 somewhere should be plenty to flag
the file.
No. A perfect match would be 1. Which means that file should _not_ be
flagged.
well whatever. I think it is wise to do a division, if only to get a
scale-free measure.
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Erik Sandberg schreef:
If there's a rule that LY_DEFINEs should be in their own files, then there are
some inconsistencies:
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-/* guh. Use properties! */
-get_score_engraver ()-forbid_breaks ();
+context ()-get_score_context ()-set_property (forbidBreak, SCM_BOOL_T);
I think you can also drop get_score_engraver() now.
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Graham Percival wrote:
Erik stopped including submitter's emails in the bug CVS to avoid them
getting spammed; he simply kept a mailbox of bug emails, and when an
has this been a real problem or a preemptive strike? I wonder whether
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Joe Neeman wrote:
On Fri, 5 May 2006 18:43, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Joe Neeman wrote:
First of all, instead of penalty, breakable and page-penalty, we now
have: break-penalty, break-permission
page-break-penalty, page-break-permission
page-turn-penalty, page-turn-permission
sounds good
scheme-listener-scheme.cc scheme-listener.cc
stream-event-scheme.cc stream-event.cc
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stream-event.hh
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straightforward to have multiple commands, that are
independent, in the same way that you have to do
\bar
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Joe Neeman wrote:
On Sun, 7 May 2006 12:49, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Joe Neeman wrote:
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this. Are you thinking of having
multiple Events? With a BreakEvent, PageBreakEvent and PageTurnEvent we
could tweak break-permission, page-break-permission and
page
for
non-musical is of course welcome)
Should I then split Item::is_breakable into, say, Item::is_non_musical and
Paper_column::is_breakable?
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Erlend Aasland wrote:
On 5/5/06, *Han-Wen Nienhuys* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... the problem is more about what variables to modify. It
appears to me like dim_ contains the bounding box, but when I
modify it,
the rotated stencils are misplaced
Erlend Aasland wrote:
There are no bugs with the current code, so why rewrite it?
Because it's not _obviously_ correct.
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Joe Neeman wrote:
OK, here's another try (and I made web successfully).
Thanks, looks good. Please apply.
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Han-Wen Nienhuys schreef:
Joe Neeman wrote:
OK, here's another try
(and I made web successfully).
how is this possible? Did you do make web-clean in between?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/lilypond$ lilypond input/typography-demo.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.9.4
Processing `input/typography-demo.ly
Joe Neeman schreef:
On Tue, 9 May 2006 18:07, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys schreef:
Joe Neeman wrote:
OK, here's another try
(and I made web successfully).
how is this possible? Did you do make web-clean in between?
I did, but I didn't notice this because it didn't cause
Joe Neeman schreef:
On Tue, 9 May 2006 18:52, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Joe Neeman schreef:
On Tue, 9 May 2006 18:07, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys schreef:
Joe Neeman wrote:
OK, here's another try
(and I made web successfully).
how is this possible? Did you do make web-clean
Joe Neeman wrote:
On Wed, 10 May 2006 00:13, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Joe Neeman schreef:
On Tue, 9 May 2006 18:07, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys schreef:
Joe Neeman wrote:
OK, here's another try
(and I made web successfully).
how is this possible? Did you do make web-clean
)
+ destructively truncate a list to n elements
+ (set-cdr! (list-tail ls (1- n)) '())
+ ls)
+
use srfi-1 split-at!
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2006/5/10, Erik Sandberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Citerar Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Known issue: unfold-repeats will probably not work for percent repeats. (the repeat will be unfolded, but percents will still remain). I'd suggest to
fix this by scrapping percent-repeat-iterator
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2006/5/11, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
So it seems 2.8.1 is linked statically with libstdc++ and 2.9.4 isn't. Is this
intentional?
No, there was a packaging error with GCC that slipped through in the
installer.
can you try the latest 2.9.4 build?
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Thomas Bushnell BSG schreef:
how is it that there are binary packages for some systems for 2.8.2,
but no source?
good point. I forgot to upload.
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Mats Bengtsson schreef:
A related question, how do you define a music function that takes
a string or a markup as an argument?
You don't. It has to take either a markup or a string.
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Erik Sandberg schreef:
On Thursday 11 May 2006 00:54, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
2006/5/10, Erik Sandberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Citerar Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Known issue: unfold-repeats will probably not work for percent
I don't understand this. unfold-repeats is on the front end, we
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Erik Sandberg schreef:
eliminate the parser's need to wrap expressions inside \context Bottom. I can
implement this when I've finished some more of the music stream refactorings.
come to think of it, I'm still missing the define-event-classes.scm file.
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binaries is trivial with lipo, or so I heard.
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(Grob *me, Axis a)
you could patch that
* to accept a list of extra-spaces, to tune each each space separately.
* to ignore the extra space for certain elements that have some boolean
property set; then you set that property in the VerticalAxisGroup for
Lyrics.
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refpoint-extent and bottom
of 1st system refpoint-extent are at next-space distance. In tighter
situations, they get closer, and for looser further.
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Sequential_iterator::get_music_list()
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Erik Sandberg schreef:
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 20:42, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Erik Sandberg wrote:
Hi,
Here's my plan on how to front-port music streams to the 2.9 branch.
1. Implement classes Dispatcher, Stream_event, Listener (move modules
from my thesis fork)
2. Add dispatchers
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