Here's the ps draw_bezier_sandwich routine from line 127 of
music-drawing-routines.ps. I've annotated it to show how it
pulls thickness controls off the stack. I put periods
between some values to simplify reading (they're not part of
the stack). Currently there are 17 thickness controls:
Neil Puttock wrote:
Adding avoid-phrasing-slur would mean duplicating all the slur
avoidance code just for the sake of a different name.
What about making some sort of property alias
(don't know if that's the right word). Such that
if the parser (or interpreter or whatever) sees
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
On 4/17/09 1:34 PM, n.putt...@gmail.com wrote:
http://codereview.appspot.com/41099/diff/1021/58
File lily/arpeggio.cc (right):
http://codereview.appspot.com/41099/diff/1021/58#newcode168
Line 168: Stencil mol (Lookup::slur (curve, lt, lt, SCM_UNDEFINED));
Werner LEMBERG wrote:
An example of a useful dashed bezier-sandwich arpeggio would be when
indicating arpeggios presumed to have been accidentally omitted from
a manuscript, within an urtext edition.
I don't think so. The proper way would be rather to use an arpeggio
typeset with a
Hey everyone...
I'm thinking about finally running the
(windows-linux me) procedure, and I'm
wondering what distros you developers
prefer to use (and why).
- Mark
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can someone check this and add it to the source?
Thanks.
- Mark
proposed change for:
music-drawing-routines.ps
line 126
_
% this is for drawing slurs and barre-indicators.
/draw_bezier_sandwich % x5 y5 x6 y6 x7 y7
% x4 y4
% x1
Carl,
the line with % x0 y0 didn't make it to git.
- Mark
% this is for drawing slurs and barre-indicators.
/draw_bezier_sandwich % x5 y5 x6 y6 x7 y7
% x4 y4
% x1 y1 x2 y2 x3 y3
% x0 y0
%
Carl,
should we also add something similar...
between lines 77 and 78 of output-ps.scm?
between lines 117 and 118 of output-socket.scm?
between lines 206 and 207 of output-svg.scm?
Also -
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
If you have the capability of formatting your own
patches with git, that
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
OK, so try the instructions in 1.5.6. Do you
have both branches listed, as described in 1.5.6?
When the Local Branch radio button is selected,
only lily-local appears. When the Tracking Branch
is selected, only origin/master appears. The Fetch
Tracking Branch checkbox
Oh man, this is just way too frustrating.
Maybe it's a Windows thing, but nothing about git is clear to me
anymore. I feel like I'm trying to learn from three different
manuals, none of which quite work. Then I try out a couple of git
commands in the bash shell and next thing I know,
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And how do I exit the EDIT_COMMITMSG window? I've included an
image showing the window. If I click on the X button, the whole
git bash shell closes along with it. That can't be right.
Okay, this one I figured out. It says here
Hi everyone,
I got stuck trying to determine which grobs get attached to
musical paper-columns, and which grobs get attached to non-musical
paper-columns, so I wrote these list-generating scheme procedures:
(define grobs-sorted-by-paper-column
(let loop
Mark Polesky wrote:
(define grobs-sorted-by-paper-column
(let loop ((remaining all-grob-descriptions)
(musical '())
(non-musical '()))
(cond ((null? remaining) (cons musical non-musical))
((ly:assoc-get 'non-musical (cdar remaining
Mark Polesky wrote:
Incidentally, I found I could simplify these with filter:
Here's a proposal:
Here are two generic functions that could be incorporated into IR
4 Scheme functions (though if C++ is required, someone else
would have to help).
(define (ly:sort-alist
Trevor Daniels wrote:
I'd be happy to make changes to the Windows git
section of the CG if someone can point out the bit
or bits that are difficult to understand.
Trevor,
here are some unanswered questions that I think should be answered
in the CG. I'll have more later, but I'll start with
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Cc: Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com; Jonathan Kulp
jonlancek...@gmail.com; Carl D. Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu;
lilypond-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org
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Mark Polesky wrote:
Here are two generic functions that could be incorporated into IR
4 Scheme functions (though if C++ is required, someone else
would have to help).
I've updated ly:sort-alist to cope with non-numeric values.
Here they are again:
#(define (ly:sort-alist alist prop
Mark Polesky wrote:
I've updated ly:sort-alist to cope with non-numeric values.
Here they are again:
oops. the last ly:sort-alist won't work. This one will.
(define (ly:sort-alist alist prop)
#! Return a sorted list of pairs (entry . prop-value) of alist
entries that have prop as a key
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Neil Puttock wrote:
2009/5/27 Joe Neeman :
On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 02:17 -0700, Mark Polesky wrote:
line 408 of define-grobs.scm lists staff in a break-align-orders
vector. Is that a typo?
I think so.
line 49 of lsr/creating-simultaneous-rehearsal-marks.ly reads:
\once \override
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I want to change this:
programming error: (de)crescendo on items with specified volume.
Here are my candidates:
warning: impossible or ambiguous (de)crescendo.
warning: impossible or ambiguous (de)crescendo (MIDI).
warning: ignoring impossible or ambiguous (de)crescendo.
warning:
Ian Hulin wrote:
What makes the (de)crescendo as coded impossible or ambiguous? I agree, we
need
to be as precise as possible, but we need to also give the user as big a
steer
as we can towards sorting the problem.
See
Umm... what's going on? All of a sudden lilypond's
entire history goes back all of 8 hours...
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=summary
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Neil Puttock wrote:
A much more suitable home would be lily-library.scm, but you'd
need to document them manually as Graham suggests.
Oh my gosh, why was I never told about lily-library.scm before?
That is one of the most useful little files I've seen in a while.
Is it mentioned in the docs?
Mark Polesky wrote:
... I've ended up writing quite a few of
these functions without knowing that they were all here.
Here's another useful set of procedures that is not in
lily-library.scm. These functions make quick work of calculating
offsets, extents, bounding-boxes, etc. I've attached
Why does this work? symbol-append is not listed in the guile
manual, nor do I see it in the lilypond source. It was an accident
that I discovered this at all, and subsequently I saw that it's
implemented in MIT/GNU Scheme, but *not* in guile. What's going
on? Are there other cool functions that I
Patrick McCarty wrote:
As a rule, whenever I find functions that are not defined in
LilyPond's source, and not listed the Guile manual, I always
check Guile's source code.
Ha! That's exactly what I tried, but with git.sv.gnu.org down, I
wasn't able to access it. But thanks for the
In lily-library.scm, why are some procedures defined with
define-public and some others only with define?
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Patrick McCarty wrote:
The define procedures are generally only available within a
single module define-public creates a sort of *global
procedure*; any module has access to it.
Yes, but how would I access list-minus, or cons-map from
another file if I wanted to? In lily-library.scm,
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Subject: [PATCH] Re: where to put useful lists in the docs?
Mark
Nicolas Sceaux wrote:
This is not the way to do it in guile scheme. When you find
yourself using primitive-eval, ask yourself if there is not a
better way. To write code that writes codes, use macros: read
about defmacro. Also note that you usually don't use underscores
in function names.
Mark Polesky wrote:
... To write code that writes codes, use macros: read
about defmacro. ...
... sometimes I can't read between the concise lines of R5RS or
the guile reference manual.
Okay, I've been going in circles for an hour trying to assemble
anything remotely similar to what
Why didn't this patch work?
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commitdiff;h=269248a11ada074066deb061d64df70ee7b4deec
I changed \var{} to \code{} but it still shows up as \var{} in the
html.
Is the Hungarian-language news item on the lilypond.org hopmepage
supposed to be there? It seems a little odd. Better if it were
translated to English, I think.
- Mark
A LilyPond weboldala magyaru - May 22, 2009
Elkészült a lilypond.org nagy részének magyar fordítása a LilyPond
honosítási
I tried to answer a question on -user but hit a brick wall.
\unfoldRepeats failed to work when the music block was funneled from 2
separate expressions. Can someone explain this to me? Why does the
following code work for voiceA but not for voiceB?
Thanks.
- Mark
Does anybody remember which commit was used for 2.13.1? We should
tag that.
Isn't it this one?
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commit;h=e49c69e6d1e507f60348fa168332175ec6d42b0a
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In a patch I submitted some days ago...
, in that case I'm pretty sure I've
narrowed it down to these two:
Reinhold Kainhofer
Better detection which characters need to be quoted...
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commit;h=0ac32e91fab38b860ad951b8f0cd4700f79ba86a
Mark Polesky
Change wording of paper-column-interface
Clicking on the lilypond.org W3C HTML 4.0 validator button yields errors:
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
For 'Y-offset adjustments, I'd like to be able to give a
relative adjustment (e.g., -10 means raise 10 spaces from where
Lilypond would *normally* put it). Is there a way I can get a
callback function (giving the current position) in order to
accomplish this?
Kieren,
List choices in break-align-symbols docstring.
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2009-05/msg00475.html
Make some local functions public.
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2009-05/msg00522.html
If anyone has an objection to either patch, let me know.
Thanks.
- Mark
These overrides in the first example should clearly be \overrideProperty
\override NonMusicalPaperColumn
#'line-break-system-details #'((alignment-offsets . (0 -15)))
\override NonMusicalPaperColumn
#'line-break-system-details #'((X-offset . 20) (Y-offset . 40)
Kieren,
This is an excellent question, but I'm afraid I've
reached the point where I'm going in circles. I think
you'll have to ask someone else! But I'm very interested
in seeing the solution.
Sorry ):
- Mark
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Neil Puttock wrote:
-(define (split-at-predicate predicate lst)
+(define-public (split-at-predicate predicate lst)
Can you amend the docstring for this, since the example given is
a bit broken (the cons part shouldn't be there):
(split-at-predicate (lambda (x y) (= (- y x) 2)) '(1 3 5 9 11)
Anyone want to double-check (and apply) my rewrite of
split-at-predicate?
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2009-06/msg00226.html
Thanks
- Mark
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Since setting a grob's stencil prop to #f can trigger errors, I
discovered the following workaround. Do we have anything like this
already? If not, shouldn't we? Is there a better way than using an
empty postscript string?
- Mark
#(define-public empty-stencil
(ly:make-stencil (list
Gilles THIBAULT wrote:
empty-stencil is already defined in define-markup-commands.scm
Ha! missed that one, thanks.
So I checked out define-markup-commands.scm, and found this:
(define-public empty-stencil (ly:make-stencil '() '(1 . -1) '(1 . -1)))
(define-public point-stencil (ly:make-stencil
IR 3.2.24 dots-interface says dot-count is a user
settable property, but this doesn't do anything:
{ \override Dots #'dot-count = #3 c'' }
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Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
The Dots grob only gets created if the underlying
note has at least one dot.
But neither of these do anything either:
{ \override Dots #'dot-count = #0 c''4. }
{ \override Dots #'dot-count = #3 c''4. }
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entering { \displayMusic c'! } yields:
(make-music
'EventChord
'elements
(list (make-music
'NoteEvent
'force-accidental
#t
'duration
(ly:make-duration 2 0 1 1)
'pitch
(ly:make-pitch 0 0 0
I wish there were a similar
I want to retrieve absolute pitch data from within a \relative
block but I can't figure it out. Here's my work so far. Probably
there's a much easier way. If so, let me know!
By the way, is this a -user or a -devel question? Sometimes I
post to -devel just so I don't scare -user newbies away
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
How's this?
relativeMusic = \relative
{
c' d e f g g, a b c1
}
\displayLilyMusic \relativeMusic
Kieren,
The \displayLilyMusic is not within the \relative block.
So it's the same situation; the command works fine
outside the \relative block, but not within:
Trevor, could you add a bit to your recent LM 4.3.1 patch about
empty-stencil and point-stencil? They are suitable substitutes for
#'stencil = ##f.
\override grob #'stencil = #empty-stencil
\override grob #'stencil = #point-stencil
See
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Something like 'suppress-accidental that would fit right where
'force-accidental goes in the scheme expression. Is that
possible? Would it be difficult to implement?
It's quite simple to do.
Attached is a patch which uses an ampersand to hide accidentals.
Graham Percival wrote:
I can't figure out how to use \tweak to get inside chords...
But the presence of the functionality (without the syntax)
should be enough for me (for the moment).
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/Tweaking-methods
about 65% down
Jay Anderson wrote:
Also it should avoid length when a null? check will do. Here's the
function with those changes:
(define-public (split-at-predicate predicate lst)
Split a list into 2 lists at the first element that returns #f for
(predicate previous_element element). Return the two
In cheatsheet.itely
I propose changing line 70 (in time signature) from
\override Staff.Clef #'transparent = ##t
to
\override Staff.Clef #'stencil = #empty-stencil
Also, in key signature (lines 95-102),
the auto-generated \paper block is
\paper {
#(define dump-extents #t)
indent = 0\mm
Neil,
do you think remove-accidental would be more semantically
accurate than hide-accidental? I'm thinking that \hideNotes
still leaves space where the notes would be, but this
function doesn't (at least that's my understanding).
- Mark
Neil Puttock wrote:
do you think remove-accidental would be more semantically
accurate than hide-accidental?
Not particularly, since that implies that it exists in the
first place.
By that logic, I would think prevent- or suppress- would be
more accurate.
- Mark
Werner LEMBERG wrote:
Please don't extend the syntax lightly. Try to make something based
on music functions or \tweak first; if it finds wide spread
adoption, you can always add cute syntax later.
Given the infrequency of this request, I second this.
Just found this... (:
Ted Walther wrote:
How about instead of \suppress-accidental, we had this:
\accidental-once noneaes
\accidental-once natural aes
\accidental-once is aes
\accidental-once isisaes
\accidental-once es aes
\accidental-once esesaes
So you could explicitly set the
dynamic-scripts-init.ly
why is there p but no f?
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Any reason why properties listed in define-grobs.scm
are not in alphabetical order? Sometimes I get a little
frustrated looking stuff up in IR 3.1.
Do they need to be in any particular order?
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Graham Percival wrote:
why is there p but no f?
IIRC I asked this 3-4 years ago, and the answer was that somebody
had seen p in the literature (a Tchaik symphony, maybe?), but
nobody had seen a f.
on the last page of book 2 of the Ligeti etudes.
Not that I
Patrick McCarty wrote:
IIUC, every grob is self-contained, so it shouldn't matter which order
they are in. Maybe in the past someone wanted to group related
grobs together (like the internal grob property list), thus the
comment.
Alphabetical order makes the most sense to me in this case,
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Patrick McCarty wrote:
Oops, I didn't read your email carefully enough. :-)
The properties (except for meta, as you noted) can be in any order.
I am okay with a case-insensitive ordering.
BTW, it looks like the grob list is not completely alphabetized
(AmbitusAccidental follows
One curious thing I've noticed when looking over this
is in the definition for Script:
line 1477: ;; don't set direction here: it breaks staccato.
...then 9 lines later, direction is set...
line 1486: (direction . ,ly:script-interface::calc-direction)
I don't know if that means
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
Any reason why properties listed in define-grobs.scm
are not in alphabetical order? Sometimes I get a little
frustrated looking stuff up in IR 3.1.
That file contains:
;;; todo:: reorder sensibly.
and IMO alphabetical is a sensible order.
Alphabetical
One curious thing I've noticed when looking over this
is in the definition for Script:
line 1477: ;; don't set direction here: it breaks staccato.
...then 9 lines later, direction is set...
line 1486: (direction . ,ly:script-interface::calc-direction)
I don't know if that
Windows users compiling according to LM 2.1.1 will never see the
console output. Is it possible to send the standard output also to
the .log file?
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This may be totally obvious to everyone here, but Windows users
can't just run guile without running LilyPond (I'm thinking for
users who are working on learning scheme). At least not to my
knowledge.
I've been using a very simple trick (don't expect to be impressed)
to work around this. In a
Here are some proposed additions to LM B. Scheme tutorial
These are things that I wished I knew when I was starting! I
haven't made a patch because I want to get feedback from you guys
first.
Thanks
- Mark
***(I'm leaving this paragraph as it is)
LilyPond uses the Scheme programming language,
Neil Puttock wrote:
I looked through the archives, and there's a post here from Gilles
which implies it hasn't worked for a long time:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-09/msg00581.html
Following his advice, navigating to C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr works.
even
Graham Percival wrote:
I prefer case-insensitive so X-offset and Y-offset are near the
bottom (where I expect to find them). Let me know if you object.
Please use the alphabetical ordering used in other SCM files. I don't
mind if you move around the uppercased properties in all SCM
1.2.3 Displaying rhythms (Automatic note splitting) says:
The Completion_heads_engraver only affects notes; it does not
split rests.
Is there a stumbling block? How easily could this be changed? I'm
finding myself in situations where splitting rests would come in
handy. Or could there be a
Bertalan Fodor wrote:
On the new website, I'm following the previous website
which simply wrote LilyPond. Does anybody want to make
a strong case in favor of replacing this with GNU/LilyPond
everywhere?
(or maybe just once or twice, in the intro or something like
that?)
I hope
Trevor Daniels wrote:
Mark, do you want to make a patch for the changes
to LM B which you want to see, or shall I extract
some changes from your note and the various comments?
If you do it, I think we should document both of
these methods for Windows (or three, if we mention
git bash).
In particular, spaces
must be used around the dot and the equals sign in commands like
@code{\override Score . LyricText #'font-size = #5} and before and
after the entire command.
Really? What's the risk of doing Score.LyricText? Non-spaced
context.grob dots are all over the docs; do we need to
James E. Bailey wrote:
I don't know where in the documentation this is...
It's in Trevor's patch from 9 hours ago:
Jay Anderson wrote:
last-pair is an O(n) operation, since it has to traverse the whole list,
making split-at-predicate O(n^2) instead of O(n), as it should be. You'd be
better off building L0 backwards and reversing it at the end, so that the
element you need is always at the beginning
Jay Anderson wrote:
Actually, I like this much better. A couple things:
- It doesn't handle an empty list as input. Or is an error the correct
behavior?
- I'm not the biggest fan of multiple return values. You could do
(cons (take lst (1+ i)) (drop lst (1+ i))) instead (unless there are
Should we get in the habit of changing the \version numbers in
Welcome-to-LilyPond-MacOS.ly and Welcome-to-LilyPond.ly every time
the version is bumped? At least we should remember to do it after
we bump into 2.14.0 and before we release 2.14.0.
- Mark
I also took a look at the next procedure, split-list-by-separator.
My revised version is below. Unless I hear otherwise, I'll send a
patch soon.
- Mark
;; current version
(define-public (split-list-by-separator lst sep?)
(display (split-list-by-separator '(a b c / d e f / g) (lambda (x)
Here's a patch.
I retained the definition styles:
(define (split-at-predicate ...
(define-public (split-list-by-separator ...
I'd like to change certain other procedures from define to
define-public (review this thread for more details), but I'll do
that in a separate patch once this one gets
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
I also took a look at the next procedure,
split-list-by-separator. My revised version is below. Unless I
hear otherwise, I'll send a patch soon.
Maybe you guys can look into making a test framework for the
Scheme library functions.
It should be fairly simple to
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
I mean to have an automated set of tests, that checks for example that
(eq? (split-at-predicate odd? '(2 3 6 8 9 0))
'((2) (6 8) (0)))
holds. It would be .ly file that runs Scheme function on a set of
inputs, and compares them to a set of outputs to make
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
(eq? (split-at-predicate odd? '(2 3 6 8 9 0))
'((2) (6 8) (0)))
holds. It would be .ly file that runs Scheme function on a
set of inputs, and compares them to a set of outputs to make
sure that they match.
I second that, but would advice to have a
Neil Puttock wrote:
A Completion_rests_engraver would be the right approach.
I don't think there's any stumbling block (indeed, you can knock up a
rough and ready version based on Completion_heads_engraver in a few
minutes); it's just waiting for someone to implement it properly,
which
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
I *am* interested in helping with this, but could someone apply my
final patch on this?
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2009-06/msg00528.html
It's been almost a month since I started with this...
set to #t to see the effect of above sort.
(if #f (begin (load debug-groblist.scm)
(display groblist-debug-string)))
;; ly-sort.scm
;;
;; LilyPond-specific sorting of symbols, strings, and alists.
;;
;; (c) 2009 Mark Polesky
;;
;; for an explanation/rationale, see:
;; http
Hey everyone,
Sorry if this is a sensitive topic... but
I figured we should probably remove Rune's
e-mail address from AUTHORS.texi.
Patch attached.
- Mark
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Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
I like this, because it makes the out-of-order stuff be only a
programmer's problem, and programmers can use searches to find
the code they're looking for.
To an extent, I would say. There's obvious value to well-organized
code. The more searches a programmer needs to
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
I have not put a question mark on ci because ? is used in SICP
to indicate a predicate (i.e. a function returning a boolean)
rather than a boolean value directly.
I like it. Nice subtlety. Forgot to make that change in the
previous post (butI've noted it).
- Mark
Oops, just discovered that (ly:char? #\ #\?) returns #t...
(tweaking some more)
- Mark
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Here are 2 versions of the same procedure.
Is the second one *too* concise and cryptic?
- Mark
(define (ly:string-compare a b ci)
(let ((mismatch (first-diff-chars a b ci)))
(if mismatch
(if (car mismatch)
(if (cdr mismatch)
((if ci ly:char-ci? ly:char?)
-alphanumeric characters ( !?=:-_).
Also I think the initial comments are kind of lengthy, maybe
someone can comment on that, too.
Thanks.
- Mark
;; lily-sort.scm
;;
;; LilyPond-specific sorting of symbols, strings, and alists.
;;
;; (c) 2009 Mark Polesky
;;
;; This file implements a LilyPond
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
precisely where should I enter lily-sort.scm in the file
lily.scm?
IIUC, it can go anywhere in the list, as long as it's before any
files that need to use its functions when they are loaded.
Then I'll put it just before define-event-classes.scm, which is
the first
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