Re: file locations or links in snippets

2008-05-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham I just came across this in my inbox and realised I hadn't replied to it. Sorry. You wrote Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:35 PM Trevor, I modified LM 4.6.3 Other... a bit, but it's now a mess. I didn't think that you'd introduced GUB, That's right, it hasn't been mentioned. so I

Re: file locations or links in snippets

2008-05-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:12 PM On Sat, 24 May 2008 21:31:16 +0100 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second, I'd drop the strong bits and simply use four paras like: If you are using MS Windows (any flavour) and downloaded the standard version of LilyPond from

Re: file locations or links in snippets

2008-05-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Sunday, May 25, 2008 9:50 AM On Sun, 25 May 2008 09:40:47 +0100 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A list would be fine. What I disliked was the attempt to construct a heading from the conditions. These are better explained in text. An alternative would be a list

Re: file locations or links in snippets

2008-05-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:02 AM Anyway, at this point we're just nitpicking; the exact terms and order doesn't really matter. You know the issue now, so go ahead and do whatever you think is best in tweaks. OK. Pushed to master. Please tweak if any of this is wrong.

Description of 'direction in IR

2008-05-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
I've a vague suspicion this has been raised before; if so, apologies. The description of the direction property in the IR is wrong in two places. I think it should be corrected as follows (but I can't see where this is specified): direction (direction) If side-axis is 1 (or #X), then this

Re: Description of 'direction in IR

2008-05-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Puttock wrote Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:42 PM 2008/5/25 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Delete the following - only 1,0,-1 are permitted for type 'direction'] but also other numerical values are permitted. Hmm, I hadn't noticed this; I was sure other values were possible, but I

Re: Renaming \setTextCresc, \setHairpinCresc, etc.

2008-05-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
- Original Message - From: Patrick McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Renaming \setTextCresc, \setHairpinCresc, etc. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL

Re: Detailed plan for documentation translations

2008-05-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
John, you wrote Trevor, are sections in Input stabilized enough so we can reorganize translations too? In fact, this chapter is not translated in any language, except one or two nodes in French, so reorganization in translations is very cheap for this chapter (no more than 10 minutes). The

Re: Bugtracker cleanup/update

2008-05-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, May 31, 2008 8:54 AM On Sat, 31 May 2008 09:28:50 +0200 John Mandereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An unsure question is, should big doc work like GDP go on on master after 2.12? No, because barring a miracle, there won't be anybody[1] left to do big doc work.

Re: Fw: Sustain in midi output of Piano Centered Dynamics Template

2008-06-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, June 02, 2008 9:01 PM On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:48:45 +0100 Neil Puttock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/1 Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It wasn't me; I just reminded somebody to work on it. If this uses 2.11 stuff (which I imagine it does, given the new

GDP: Renaming NR 3

2008-06-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Chapter 3 in the Notation Reference is currently named Input syntax, but the contents in the latest revision of the 2.11 docs are much wider than the name implies and I'd like to change it. The trouble is, the contents are rather diverse, being mainly the left-overs from chapters 1 2.

Re: Syntax explanations

2008-06-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl D. Sorensen wrote Wednesday, June 11, 2008 1:22 PM quote In the past, there has been a call for a full syntax diagram for LilyPond. Such a diagram should come directly from the parser, IMO. Are there current plans for developing one? At one time, I wrote a Python routine that

Re: Why does LilyPond delete the PDF first?

2008-06-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:39 AM 2008/6/11 Risto Vääräniemi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I guess Windows (and Acrobat) handles files differently than Linux and KPDF. Could you test on Linux what happens, if a pdf is opened with Acrobat (Reader) and you re-compile the file?

Re: s vs. \skip

2008-06-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl I'll go along with that. Trevor - Original Message - From: Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 3:20 AM Subject: s vs. \skip In rewriting the docs on rests, I've come across s and \skip as ways to generate musical durations

Re: New predefined command

2008-06-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick McCarty wrote Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:24 AM I have just documented the new parenthesis style arpeggio bracket that Han-Wen created a while back. Here is a link to the News item: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/topdocs/NEWS Since it involves two \override commands, it

Re: New predefined command

2008-06-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:14 AM On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:18:04 +0100 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick McCarty wrote Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:24 AM I think an \arpeggioParen command might be suitable. Looks good; it matches the existing \arpeggioBracket

Re: New predefined command

2008-06-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:14 AM BTW: May I take this as an opportunity to offer to also rename sustainDown\Up into SustainOn\Off? See my former mail on: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2008-04/msg00037.html I'm in favour of this. Anyone who has

Re: plz help about lily.......

2008-06-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Mandereau wrote Saturday, June 21, 2008 7:48 PM Are you sure it's not possible to build LilyPond on Windows with MinGW? AFAIK nobody has ever done it, but it's certainly possible, maybe with some changes in the build system needed. John, you shouldn't dangle tempations like that in

Re: New predefined command

2008-06-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
2. If not, how do we indicate the 5 states listed above? \arpeggioNormal \arpeggioPointUp \arpeggioPointDown \arpeggioBracket \arpeggioParenthesis Point is okay. Another possibility could be ArrowUp and ArrowDown. I like Arrow better. Since the problem was with Up/Down maybe

Re: GDP status July 2008

2008-06-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham, you wrote There's two months left in GDP. I'd like to reserve one month for final clean-up and whatnot, so that leaves one month for the bulk of the work. Here's my list of what I'm hoping people to finish in July. If you don't think you can accomplish it, let me know; I should be

Re: Downloading the install file

2008-07-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
I get the same problem. It seems the download host download.linuxaudio.org (128.173.232.121) is down. It doesn't respond to a ping. Trevor - Original Message - From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:47 AM Subject: Downloading the install

Re: NR 2.9 world music

2008-07-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Good name! Trevor - Original Message - From: Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lily-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:49 AM Subject: NR 2.9 world music I've added NR 2.9 World music. Currently it'll only contain Arabic music, but

Re: GDP: examples consistency

2008-07-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:10 PM This has nothing to do with translations -- this is just good docs! I'd want these fixes even if we weren't translating anything. :) However, please send patches to me for review. I changed one thing in your patch: there's no emphase

Missing new arpeggio and other predefs?

2008-07-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
I just downloaded and installed 2.11.51-1 for Windows. It seems not to include the new predefs introduced by Carl in commit 8efac4c75717d696ceee8f4c9899ead4abc2e5c5 on 5 July. Why not? Trevor ___ lilypond-devel mailing list

Re: Missing new arpeggio and other predefs?

2008-07-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
John I take it back - the build is fine. Something funny must have happened during my first install, as I've just re-installed 2.11.51-1 and everything is as it should be. Sorry. Trevor - Original Message - From: John Mandereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Trevor Daniels [EMAIL

Re: erroneous subheading

2008-07-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Jean-Charles I used simulating because this way of doing it is really rather a hack. A bit like replacing a staccato note with a half-length note followed by a half-length rest. Both methods render the required music more or less correctly in MIDI. Doing it for real would be for LilyPond to

Re: erroneous subheading

2008-07-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote Le 13.07.2008 18:26, Trevor Daniels disait : Hi Jean-Charles I used simulating because this way of doing it is really rather a hack. A bit like replacing a staccato note with a half-length note followed by a half-length rest. Both methods render the required

Re: LSR, Latex, UTF-8

2008-07-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham I use this snippet in NR 3.3.3 Text encoding. There's no real need to display the lily code here, but it would be nice to continue to show the lily output, which displays just fine in pdf. Are you willing to let me drop verbatim here (with a suitable comment, of course)? Trevor

Catching unmatched braces

2008-07-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Sorry for breaking the doc build again, Neil, and thanks for fixing it. As I can't build the docs 'properly' under Windows I use texi2html to check for errors, but it seems it doesn't flag up unmatched braces like the error you just fixed: For example, if a @notation{rinforzando} dynamic

Re: LM 1.2 About the docs

2008-07-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Looks pretty good in general; a few minor suggestions in attached patch. Also, I'd still like to change the heading, Input syntax to something else. My current favourite is Other notation as this follows nicely after the first two sections, rounding things off and providing a catch-all for

Re: LM 1.2 About the docs

2008-07-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:42 PM On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:22:45 +0100 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I'd still like to change the heading, Input syntax to something else. My current favourite is Other notation as this follows nicely after the first two

Re: LSR page with texi2html

2008-07-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
On IE 7 the left hand panel containing the index has both vertical and horizontal scroll bars :) but no vertical scroll bar appears on the main panel for the longer snippets, meaning there is no way to see the last part of the snippet :( Is this the known problem with IE that you mentioned

Re: LM 1.2 About the docs

2008-07-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Mandereau wrote Monday, July 21, 2008 9:43 PM On 2008/07/21 00:37 -0700, Graham Percival wrote: Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We'll have to find something - the section is certainly not Input syntax! I'd say either General notation or Non-musical notation, leaning

Re: LM 1.2 About the docs

2008-07-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, July 21, 2008 10:02 PM On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:43:15 +0200 John Mandereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008/07/21 00:37 -0700, Graham Percival wrote: I'd say either General notation or Non-musical notation, leaning slightly towards the former. Anybody else

Re: LM 1.2 About the docs

2008-07-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:27 AM On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:54:24 +0100 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graham Percival wrote Monday, July 21, 2008 10:02 PM On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:43:15 +0200 John Mandereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about General input

GDP: NR 3, NR 5

2008-07-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Do you have anyone available in the near future to tidy up NR 3? Refs, index entries, snippets, policy, etc all need detailed attention. I think the base information is fairly solid, but I've left a couple of hidden TODO where there are questions or suggestions for improvement.

Re: GDP: NR 3, NR 5

2008-07-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:06 AM On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:54:42 +0100 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I should press on with NR 5 now. I'll try to get it into a state suitable for 2.12 as quickly as possible, ie no worse than 2.10, but with lots of hidden

Re: post-GDP doc team

2008-07-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Sunday, July 27, 2008 9:40 AM Hi Trevor, Patick, Jonathan, Carl, Francisco, and Neil, I'm now finished my thesis, course work, and everything I need to get done until my thesis defense on Aug 19th. That's really good - not many people have three weeks to spare!

Re: post-GDP doc team

2008-07-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick Further to this, I have just pushed a further change to NR 4 to git which changed the section structuring in this chapter a little. Just in case you have already started made local mods to spacing.itely. Trevor Patrick: please finish NR 1.3, 1.6, and then spend 2-3 hours on the

Re: GDP: only 3 weeks left

2008-07-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
John, you wrote I finally begin to find little time to read and proofread post-GDP docs, and I especially would like to proofread (not translate right now) LM 3: there are some ends of sentences with cross-references which look strangely phrased in Info output, and there are minor errors like

Re: Version bump?

2008-08-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil/Han-Wen I cannot compile the docs locally as the LSR snippets were updated to require 2.11.55 earlier today, but the latest release available is 2.11.54-1. Means I can't check my doc changes, which is a pain. Trevor ___ lilypond-devel

Re: Version bump?

2008-08-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
2.11.55 to 2.11.54. 2) Comment out any syntax changes (ie \ottava) 3) Make sure you don't accidentally commit any of those changes. Cheers, - Graham On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:20:10 +0100 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil/Han-Wen I cannot compile the docs locally as the LSR snippets were

Wrong arabic.ly in 2.11.55

2008-08-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Han-Wen An old version of ly/arabic.ly was included in 2.11.55 which causes all Arabic music to fail, including the examples in the NR. The correct version was placed in git on 14 Jul, commit 305c5b9564dbd96b2aaaebc9035f85003a0140c4 Trevor ___

Re: Wrong arabic.ly in 2.11.55

2008-08-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
. But deleting the directory before installing work OK. Strange. Maybe a quirk in file caching or maybe a peculiarity of Vista. If it happens again I'll investigate more carefully. Trevor - Original Message - From: Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lily-Devel List lilypond-devel

Re: Release 2.12 plan

2008-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote Yesterday, I did another another bugfixing round (the results of which are in .55). I'll probably do another one to resolve the tie/completion-heads issues, but after that, I think we're ready for 2.12. I think this will happen within a month. OK. I'll try to get

Re: post-GDP doc team

2008-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
not correct? Trevor - Original Message - From: Neil Puttock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lily-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org; Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Patrick McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: lyrics following split voices

2008-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco The LM's role (at least in my view) is to introduce concepts and explanations in a logical order. It makes no attempt to be either rigorous or comprehensive, neither should it. The NR's role, in contrast, is to present complete and accurate facts, sweetened with a smattering of

Re: post-GDP doc team

2008-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
] To: Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lily-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 12:15 AM Subject: Re: post-GDP doc team Right, I've just tested your file using various \repeat unfold settings, and each pdf has barlines under the stave at various points; it seems you can't

Re: post-GDP doc team

2008-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
. The IR says the value should be between 0 and 2, but values outside this range seem to work fine, even -ve values. Trevor - Original Message - From: Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Neil Puttock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lily-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10

Re: lyrics following split voices

2008-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats, you wrote, Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:26 PM Trevor Daniels wrote: So, for the example in question, the NR should certainly state categorically what the voice names are in the various constructs, and examples showing the differences would be fine. But I don't think there is any

Re: post-GDP doc team

2008-08-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil, you wrote Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:45 PM 2008/8/6 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Neil Further to this, I've just realised that 'layer takes a number, not an integer, so the variable overprinting of grobs in the same layer could be due to rounding. In effect we have an infinite

Re: Better Midi!

2008-08-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Peter Just tried your articulate.ly. Looks really promising! A couple of early comments. It may be obvious, but \articulate should only be used in a \score block with just \midi {} - it mucks up the printed output if used with \layout { }. And dynamics in the midi score block must be

Re: Help with debugging apparent error in parser

2008-08-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl This isn't a problem specific to chordmode. If you use an identifier c you get a similar error about unexpected notename_pitch whatever the input mode. The problem is the identifier m. Because m is a valid chord modifier and the parser/lexer is scanning for chordmodifiers or pitchnames

Re: [PATCHES] Connected again but without Git pushing

2008-08-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
OK John - five patches pushed. Trevor - Original Message - From: John Mandereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lily-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:23 PM Subject: [PATCHES] Connected again but without Git pushing Hi all, Sorry for having disappeared for a

Re: Help with debugging apparent error in parser

2008-08-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl You may be right, but the details of the parser/lexer logic have so far defeated me. As it's late and as I'm away most of Saturday I shall withdraw, beaten, from this discussion :( Trevor - Original Message - From: Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Trevor Daniels [EMAIL

Re: [PATCHES] Connected again but without Git pushing

2008-08-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
John, you wrote Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:44 PM 2008/8/8 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK John - five patches pushed. Thank you Trevor! For next time you apply Git patches, you may want to try 'git am 000x-zzz', which preserves authoring info and create a commit automatically. Ah

Re: post-GDP doc team

2008-08-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:11 PM Am Montag, 28. Juli 2008 schrieb Graham Percival: On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:56:30 -0600 Once I push changes to chords.itely, what triggers a new GDP build? Me logging into kainhofer.com and running: updatedocs.sh doclog.txt I

Re: Using backslashed in node names causes problems with pdf andtexi2html (The \override command)

2008-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Monday, August 11, 2008 9:43 PM As a solution I propose to remove the backslash from the node names and the xrefs, so links will work. They can/should stay in the section titles, which are not used for the links anyway. There they don't cause any errors anyway.

Re: GDP -- Revised second draft of Fretted strings

2008-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi again Carl Another major addition! The new fretboard additions are very impressive! All very clearly and concisely written except for one paragraph, which just confused me: 2.4.1.4 Custom tablatures I found the first paragraph less than clear, maybe because I'm not familiar with tablature.

Re: Using backslashed in node names causes problems with pdf andtexi2html (The \override command)

2008-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
John, you wrote, Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:21 PM 2008/8/12 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: John, there are lots of refs to this section. I can find and change all the ones in the English docs, but I'm not sure what to do about the translations. Advice please. You can do exactly the same

Re: Docs: Using backslashed in node names causes problems with pdfand texi2html (The \override command)

2008-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Unfortunately, with our current way of using @rlearning etc, I don't know any way to get the links to show backslashes... The @ref command has a third argument, which controls the displayed text, but our definitions in macros.texi don't use this third argument.

Re: Questions about NR 1.6

2008-08-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick McCarty wrote Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:21 AM I have a couple of questions regarding my section (NR 1.6): *NR 1.6.2.1 Staff symbol This section is describing every single way to modify the properties of StaffSymbol. The only content that doesn't involve \override commands is the

Re: Docs: Using backslashed in node names causes problems with pdfand texi2html (The \override command)

2008-08-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:47 AM Am Mittwoch, 13. August 2008 schrieb Trevor Daniels: Reinhold Kainhofer wrote The only solution I see is to also define two-argument macros similar to @rlearning and the like, where the second argument gives the displayed text

robust_scm2int, was Re: post-GDP doc team

2008-08-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil, you wrote Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:58 PM 2008/8/7 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You're right. The value of 'layer is held as a real, but converted to an integer before use. It seems all +ve and -ve integers are effective, though, so we still have quite a few discrete layers

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Rather than mel could you please use melody? This make it easier for the translators. Trevor - Original Message - From: Carl Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:22 PM Subject: Re: finished second draft? Francisco Vila paconet.org

Re: finished second draft?

2008-08-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco wrote Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:05 AM @lilypond [guote, verbatim, relative =1] \new Staff { \context Voice = mel { c4 { \voiceOne g' g } \new Voice { \voiceTwo e e } \oneVoice g } } \new Lyrics

Re: Broken Forbid_line_break_engraver with Completion_heads

2008-08-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Why do you want a tied note to forbid a line break? It is preferable that it permits it, surely? Trevor - Original Message - From: Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LilyPond Development lilypond-devel@gnu.org Cc: Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15,

Re: doc work

2008-08-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
ownership of the templates to Kieren so he can edit them directly, or will he have to submit complete new ones via you? Trevor - Original Message - From: Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LilyPond Mailing

Re: Patch to autobeaming code.

2008-08-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl I think you're right. Looking at Beaming_pattern::find_rhythmic_importance in beaming-pattern.cc, it seems that both beatLength and beatGrouping are used together to determine the importance of stems. beatLength sets the length of beats to be used in a beatGroup. I don't have time

Re: Clean history

2008-08-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
As an alternative, I do all my local (doc) changes in separate branches. When one is ready to push I fetch and merge origin/master into my local branch master, cherrypick the commits I want to submit and push. It's slightly more work, but means I can work on several updates at the same time in

Re: percussion

2008-08-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
OK. I'll look at it. Trevor - Original Message - From: Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lily-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 1:09 AM Subject: percussion Trevor, I dumped a bit of info about percussion into MIDI. It'll need to

Re: percussion

2008-08-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham I've redrafted this to make it presentable but just left a TODO to expand it, as I know nothing of percussion. I'll ask Stefan to check it out and suggest any additions and/or examples. I'll push it as soon as I can compile the NR to check my edits. The fretboard stuff is still

Re: Separate git branch for documentation

2008-08-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick McCarty wrote Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:58 AM On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we start adding a lot of (occasional) contributors, I propose we use the git.or.cz fork mechanism. People can then publish their changes, and it's easy for

Re: indexing

2008-08-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Ralph, you wrote Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:57 PM Nice explanation, Trevor. It looks adequate to me, and certainly much better than what's there now. Can you suggest someone to whom I could make a formal request for a change in the description of the indices? I have neither the authority to

Re: Patch to autobeaming code.

2008-08-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl D. Sorensen wrote Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:42 PM What did you intend to have happen when beatLength is changed? AFAICS, \time 12/16 sets measureLength to (ly:make-moment 12 16) and beatLength to (ly:make-moment 1 16). When a user sets beatLength to (ly:make-moment 1 8) it says to me

Re: Autobeaming patch rev 2

2008-08-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl I'm not competent to judge your patch but this sounds excellent! When this arrived I was part-way through replying to your previous email, which was to make the point that not all combinations of the several parameters which control beaming were necessarily compatible. There are many

Unbound variable: parse-terse-string

2008-08-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl I'm having difficulty running the NR through lilypond-book. It fails in rhythms.itely on the first fretboard example. It's been failing in the same way for a couple of earlier releases and I was hoping a later release would fix it, but it still fails with 2.11.56 binary, so I've

Re: Unbound variable: parse-terse-string

2008-08-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
know if none of this helps. Very helpful - thanks. Carl Trevor On 8/22/08 2:56 PM, Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl I'm having difficulty running the NR through lilypond-book. It fails in rhythms.itely on the first fretboard example. It's been failing in the same way

Re: Unbound variable: parse-terse-string

2008-08-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
- From: Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lily-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Unbound variable: parse-terse-string On 8/23/08 2:45 AM, Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl, you wrote

Re: Unbound variable: parse-terse-string

2008-08-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:16 PM OK I think I understand what is happening here. It's all to do with Vista's paranoia over security and my attempts to compile the docs between GUB releases. It's a long story ... and good fodder for the anti-Vista brigade. The Program

Version level of snippets causes difficulty

2008-08-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil I have a problem checking my doc edits, which I like to do before pushing them. I use the latest GUB binary, currently 2.11.56, to compile the docs, but it conks on the snippets, which have already been up rated to require 2.11.57. Any suggestions? Could I perhaps change something in

Re: Version level of snippets causes difficulty

2008-08-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats Bengtsson wrote Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:53 PM Neil Puttock wrote: 2008/8/24 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Any suggestions? Could I perhaps change something in Lily to make her think she is already at the 2.11.57 level? I don't think so; whenever the version changes

Re: Version level of snippets causes difficulty

2008-08-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, August 25, 2008 10:45 AM On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a problem checking my doc edits, which I like to do before pushing them. I use the latest GUB binary, currently 2.11.56, to compile the docs, but it conks

Re: Sad news

2008-08-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Ivo Bouwmans wrote Monday, August 25, 2008 1:54 PM Graham wrote: Excellent idea, Reinhold! I had planned on calling 2.12 Mao, but naming it after Rune Zedeler is much better. (or should the release name be Rune, dedicated to the memory of Rune Zedeler?) Rune would be very appropriate.

Re: Sad news

2008-08-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Mandereau wrote Monday, August 25, 2008 5:53 PM On 2008/08/25 16:48 +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Indeed so; dedicating Release 2.12 to Rune would be an excellent way of showing our respect. Where would the name be displayed? On the web site? I like the title page of the docs

Re: [PATCHES] Re: Harp Pedals?

2008-08-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Why not use an ellipse that just fits _inside_ the rectangle? Then a^2/xrad^2 = 1; so xrad = a and b^2/yrad^2 = 1; so yrad = b The values of x-extent and y-extent of the grob are also given immediately. Trevor, puzzled ||%-/ - Original Message - From: Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL

Re: [PATCHES] Re: Harp Pedals?

2008-08-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl D. Sorensen Friday, August 29, 2008 3:25 PM On 8/29/08 2:03 AM, Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl Why not use an ellipse that just fits _inside_ the rectangle? Because the object of the ellipse is to circle a rectangle. The rectangle is a filled box, and the ellipse

Re: \lyricsmode

2008-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Would you also propose the same for \notemode, \chordmode, \drummode and \figuremode? The present names are consistent. Trevor - Original Message - From: Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: \lyricsmode

Re: \lyricsmode

2008-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner, you wrote September 02, 2008 9:31 AM Would you also propose the same for \notemode, \chordmode, \drummode and \figuremode? The present names are consistent. `lyrics' is a plural word! Yes, but lyric is a perfectly good word, both as a noun and as an adjective. A lyric is a verse

Re: git uncleaned history

2008-09-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Just to add a couple of points to this which may be helpful to some. Creating new branches is easy and does not have a high overhead. I usually have several on the go, one for each self-contained change or set of changes currently under development. This permits several commits to be under

2.11.57 fails from Vista command line

2008-09-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
The GUB release 2.11.57 for Windows seems to have a problem on Vista SP1. When started from the command line it returns immediately, even when given no arguments - 2.11.56 is fine - it gives brief help information when given no arguments. When started from another application like

Re: 2.11.57 fails from Vista command line

2008-09-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
- Original Message - From: Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lilypond-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org; Bug-Lilypond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:40 PM Subject: Re: 2.11.57 fails from Vista command line 2008/9/5 Trevor

Re: documentation addition (tremolo beams)

2008-09-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Many thanks for the suggestion, and I agree it would be a useful addition to the docs. However, the way we add examples which use overrides is via snippets. If your suggestion is added to the LSR and tagged with 'repeats,docs' it will appear automatically in the Repeats snippet list

Re: NR 4

2008-09-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
No one is working on NR 4 at the moment and, as it is not an area I'm familiar with, I'd be very grateful if you could work on it. Thanks for the offer :) I'll copy to -dev to let others know. Trevor - Original Message - From: Patrick McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Trevor Daniels

Status of manuals

2008-09-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Doc Team I'd like to establish the present status of the 2.11 docs. Could you all please confirm, update or extend the information below, which covers the sections which I believe are currently under active(?) editing. I'll then summarise the status of each of the sections so we can see what

Re: Status of manuals

2008-09-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
OK thanks, Andrew. I'll pass that on to Ralph for indexing. Are you up for more doc work? Trevor - Original Message - From: Andrew Hawryluk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lily-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org; Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jonathan Kulp

Re: Status of manuals

2008-09-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Doc Team I've been fiddling with the Documentation Coordination page that John set up at http://lilypondwiki.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Documentation_coordination It looks like it will be useful, but there is more to do yet. Unfortunately I shall be away for a week from tomorrow, almost

Re: Status of manuals

2008-09-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Andrew Hawryluk Friday, September 12, 2008 8:27 PM Are you up for more doc work? Trevor Yes, I'm up for more. I'm a slow doc writer, but I'm willing. :) Great! What sort of work would you like? There are a few sections that still need fairly major revision and editing; there are some

Re: Status of manuals

2008-09-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Andrew Hawryluk Friday, September 12, 2008 9:02 PM I'd be up for some reviewing. I'm still new enough at LilyPond that I'd learn a lot from some 'assigned readings' and I could probably tell if they make sense to someone that doesn't compile their own LilyPond binaries over breakfast. OK,

Re: Status of manuals

2008-09-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl D. Sorensen Friday, September 12, 2008 9:13 PM On 9/12/08 2:10 PM, Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Hawryluk Friday, September 12, 2008 9:02 PM I'd be up for some reviewing. I'm still new enough at LilyPond that I'd learn a lot from some 'assigned readings' and I could

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