Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/29 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: So seriously: this needs to move to a different computer if LilyPond development is of concern to you all. My work on Patchy (to make it more foolproof and more operator-friendly, i.e. 'run-a-script-and-everything-gets-done-automatically') will

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2012/1/29 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: So seriously: this needs to move to a different computer if LilyPond development is of concern to you all. My work on Patchy (to make it more foolproof and more operator-friendly, i.e.

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:37:58PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2012/1/29 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: So seriously: this needs to move to a different computer if LilyPond development is of concern to you all. My work on Patchy (to make it more foolproof and more operator-friendly, i.e.

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:47:11PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: The test-patches.py script can likely make use of the techniques in lilypond-patchy-staging.ly with regard to doing an offside build with a defined starting point not relying on whatever happens to be checked out in the main

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:47:11PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: The test-patches.py script can likely make use of the techniques in lilypond-patchy-staging.ly with regard to doing an offside build with a defined starting point not relying on

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:59:57PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: Don't get confused here. Don't scare people away from doing the staging-merge by talking about test-patches.py. I am not sure what the problem is with anybody else running it.

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca To: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:59:57PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread David Kastrup
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: I assume it uses the normal git cache on my computer Nope. It uses whatever repository you specify in the LILYPOND_GIT environment variable. - is there any danger if this is also my dev machine with other changed files in the git filesystem (e.g. the

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
On 2012-01-30 12:59, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:47:11PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: The test-patches.py script can likely make use of the techniques in lilypond-patchy-staging.ly with regard to doing an offside build with a

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Phil Holmes
Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:07 PM Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: I assume it uses the normal git cache on my computer Nope. It uses

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 02:07:44PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: smtp_command: msmtp -C ~/.msmtp-patchy -t means nothing to me. That is command for mailing the completion message somewhere. I have no idea what msmtp is supposed to be, ah yes, I

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 01:35:24PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:07 PM Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan Nope. It uses whatever repository you specify

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread David Kastrup
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:07 PM Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: I assume it uses the normal

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[Applying rietveld 5595043 to git afb4c5fb] It means running your own files that use this feature, and reading the docs to see whether the docs as well as the new incarnation of the feature make sense to you. It was really good that you have been a pain in the neck, since your patch

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: [Applying rietveld 5595043 to git afb4c5fb] It means running your own files that use this feature, and reading the docs to see whether the docs as well as the new incarnation of the feature make sense to you. It was really good that you have been a

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org; David Kastrup d...@gnu.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:40 PM Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 01:35

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread David Kastrup
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: My other current concern is to wonder whether lots of people trying to get patchy running might not collide with each other. As I understand it, the key patchy function is to pull patches from staging, The current state of staging. It does not test

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 04:39:31PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: My other current concern is to wonder whether lots of people trying to get patchy running might not collide with each other. I don't think so; once the first set of commits were pushed to

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Let me just quote one item by screenshot [...] This looks excellent. However, I don't understand the last sentence. What do you mean with `not transferred'? Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: Let me just quote one item by screenshot [...] This looks excellent. However, I don't understand the last sentence. What do you mean with `not transferred'? I reworded the text and changed the example. It should now be clearer from both text and picture.

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/30 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:37:58PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2012/1/29 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: So seriously: this needs to move to a different computer if LilyPond development is of concern to you all. My work on Patchy (to make it

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com To: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Cc: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org; lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 5:56 PM Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan 2012/1/30 Graham

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I reworded the text and changed the example. It should now be clearer from both text and picture. Yes, thanks. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 06:56:08PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2012/1/30 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: that's ALREADY how it works for the staging-merge. I guess i mean something different than you do when i say everything gets done automatically. I think there's confusion

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/30 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: I think there's confusion between Patchy staging-merge and Patchy test-patches. I don't feel confused at all, don't worry about it. i decided to pause my other Lily work and focus on improving Patchy and our development workflow.  I took

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
James pkx1...@gmail.com writes: --snip-- james@jameslilydev2:~/Desktop/patchy$ ./run-lilypond-staging.sh remote: Counting objects: 83, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (57/57), done. remote: Total 57 (delta 45), reused 0 (delta 0) Unpacking objects: 100% (57/57), done. From

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread James
David, On 29 January 2012 08:48, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: James pkx1...@gmail.com writes: --snip-- james@jameslilydev2:~/Desktop/patchy$ ./run-lilypond-staging.sh remote: Counting objects: 83, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (57/57), done. remote: Total 57 (delta 45),

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
James pkx1...@gmail.com writes: Hello, On 24 January 2012 22:20, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:   Keeping the staging-merge going would be about five people committing to 50€ a month.  That is, of course, not enough for me to live on.  It

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:34 PM Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan James pkx1...@gmail.com writes: Hello, On 24 January 2012 22:20, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Janek

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:34 PM Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan James pkx1...@gmail.com writes: Hello, On 24

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 03:34:45PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Patchy has been running for about 6 hours on my laptop trying to get the current staging (which is one trivial commit ahead of master) checked. And is still on it. ??? if you look in the build dir, what logs does it have? I mean,

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 03:34:45PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Patchy has been running for about 6 hours on my laptop trying to get the current staging (which is one trivial commit ahead of master) checked. And is still on it. ??? if you

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I am not sure whether the q stuff should be slated for 2.16. It greatly simplifies things and decreases potential for problems, but I don't see people reporting any test results, and it certainly has seen less user contact than my totally new code. As soon it is in master, I'll check it.

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: I am not sure whether the q stuff should be slated for 2.16. It greatly simplifies things and decreases potential for problems, but I don't see people reporting any test results, and it certainly has seen less user contact than my totally new code. As

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
So check it out at least once it is in Patch-review orderly. That means that it is regtest-clean, but that does not mean that a feature change will make its main users happy. OK. BTW, I've meant staging, not master. Sorry for the thinko. And I might point out that it was you who

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: So check it out at least once it is in Patch-review orderly. That means that it is regtest-clean, but that does not mean that a feature change will make its main users happy. OK. BTW, I've meant staging, not master. Sorry for the thinko. Same thing.

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
OK. BTW, I've meant staging, not master. Sorry for the thinko. Same thing. Once it is in staging, it will move forward _automatically_ to master potentially within hours unless there is a compilation/testing error. Humpf. I wasn't fully aware of this automatism. OK, will apply manually

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: OK. BTW, I've meant staging, not master. Sorry for the thinko. Same thing. Once it is in staging, it will move forward _automatically_ to master potentially within hours unless there is a compilation/testing error. Humpf. I wasn't fully aware of this

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[Applying rietveld 5595043 to git afb4c5fb] It means running your own files that use this feature, and reading the docs to see whether the docs as well as the new incarnation of the feature make sense to you. It was really good that you have been a pain in the neck, since your patch causes

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: [Applying rietveld 5595043 to git afb4c5fb] It means running your own files that use this feature, and reading the docs to see whether the docs as well as the new incarnation of the feature make sense to you. It was really good that you have been a pain

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread Colin Campbell
On 12-01-29 11:04 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Werner LEMBERGw...@gnu.org writes: OK. BTW, I've meant staging, not master. Sorry for the thinko. Same thing. Once it is in staging, it will move forward _automatically_ to master potentially within hours unless there is a compilation/testing

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Colin Campbell c...@shaw.ca writes: On 12-01-29 11:04 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Thanks. Note that this does _not_ mean regtests and doc builds: we have automatisms for that. It means running your own files that use this feature, and reading the docs to see whether the docs as well as the

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-25 Thread James
Hello, On 24 January 2012 22:20, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:   Keeping the staging-merge going would be about five people committing to 50€ a month.  That is, of course, not enough for me to live on.  It merely means that taking on this

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 09:10:16AM +, James wrote: Initialized empty Git repository in /home/james/Desktop/patchy/lilypond-autobuild/.git/ fatal: attempt to fetch/clone from a shallow repository fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly It wants to have a full git clone

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-25 Thread David Kastrup
James pkx1...@gmail.com writes: However when I run patchy I am getting --snip-- james@jameslilydev2:~/Desktop/patchy$ ./run-lilypond-staging.sh remote: Counting objects: 83, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (57/57), done. remote: Total 57 (delta 45), reused 0 (delta 0) Unpacking

somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
In order to reduce our bus factor[1] -- especially considering the distinctly non-zero possibility that I'll be gone at the end of March -- somebody else needs to run the Patchy staging-merge script. To make this more presssing, I am refusing to run this script myself after 29 Jan 2012. [1]

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread mike
1. more people need to know how to run the script. (it's not hard; far easier than setting up apache) I can do this if... 2. it would be good to have something in the CG about Patchy. ...you can do this. I also think that Patchy needs to be part of the LilyPond source. Cheers, MS

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 01:08:21PM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: 2. it would be good to have something in the CG about Patchy. ...you can do this. I have 3.5 hours remaining until Jan 29. Given how often we have emergencies come up, I think I need to reserve my time for those. If

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/24 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: 1. more people need to know how to run the script. (it's not hard; far easier than setting up apache) I'm working on Patchy with Julien. Please be patient - i have a few exams on university (last one on February 2nd). On Tue, Jan 24, 2012

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: In order to reduce our bus factor[1] -- especially considering the distinctly non-zero possibility that I'll be gone at the end of March -- somebody else needs to run the Patchy staging-merge script. To make this more presssing, I am refusing

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/1/24 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: In order to reduce our bus factor[1] -- especially considering the distinctly non-zero possibility that I'll be gone at the end of March -- somebody else needs to run the Patchy staging-merge script.  To make this more presssing, I am

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/24 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: I'll hopefully will have received a new laptop by then, but it needs more setup work than the last one (I can't just take over the hard disk like previously, as it is ATA-SATA). It will be a Core duo, but still not really fast.  Obviously putting myself

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:  Keeping the staging-merge going would be about five people committing to 50€ a month.  That is, of course, not enough for me to live on.  It merely means that taking on this duty will not further reduce the amount of time I can spend on