grace notes grumble

2005-08-18 Thread Aaron Mehl
Hi all, I am having some challenges getting grace notes to do what I intended, with lyrics and also in combination. The first case is as follows: g'2\grace a'8( g'2 ) | g'2 ya-leh with the slur the lyrics syllable is pushed to the next beat

Re: Percent repeat sign

2005-08-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Do you want the percent signs already from the firs measure of the piece? Otherwise, just do \repeat percent 5 { previous measure } Isn't this what you actually want to describe anyway? I don't understand what you intend to use it for otherwise. Example, a C major scaled followed by 4 bars of

Re: grace notes grumble

2005-08-18 Thread Graham Percival
On 17-Aug-05, at 10:57 PM, Aaron Mehl wrote: The first case is as follows: g'2\grace a'8( g'2 ) | g'2 ya-leh with the slur the lyrics syllable is pushed to the next beat This has nothing to do with grace notes; this is the default behavior of lyrics. To

cvs key-change end of line bug

2005-08-18 Thread Graham Percival
You'll probably notice this before 2.7.6 is released, but just in case, current cvs has a problem with a key-change occuring at the end of the line: it leaves space for the key change before the final bar line, then prints the key change after the final bar line (but still on the staff). Erik

Re: grace notes grumble

2005-08-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Graham Percival wrote: On 17-Aug-05, at 10:57 PM, Aaron Mehl wrote: The first case is as follows: g'2\grace a'8( g'2 ) | g'2 ya-leh with the slur the lyrics syllable is pushed to the next beat This has nothing to do with grace notes; this is the default

Re: grace notes grumble

2005-08-18 Thread Aaron Mehl
indeed, but it's actually wrong, since grace notes are too short to sing a syllable on. I was hoping that was the answer I would get. I am notating folk songs where there is indeed such behaviour, i.e. the singer sings a syllable on a grace note. Since they aren't trained musicians, I can't

Re: Percent repeat sign

2005-08-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Claus Wilke wrote: [percent repeats without body] as Mats pointed, it is of course possible to get this, just by putting the last measure of the previous material in the \repeat. Of course, then you can't do \fragment \repeat percent 4 { \skip 1 } \otherFragment \repeat percent

Re: grace notes grumble

2005-08-18 Thread Aaron Mehl
Hi again hmn... g'2\grace a'8( g'2 ) | g'2 ya-leh What exactly is the slur here telling lilypond? slur+lyric=? It is obvious now that indeed the grace note is not the issue, but the slur certainly is. The proof is once I remove the slur all is well. Maybe

Re: Multiple Rehearsal Marks

2005-08-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Will Oram wrote: Ooooh, how aggrevating! Between what I originally had and the reduced score presented here, I must've run lily on two or three intermediate steps to make sure the bug was still appearing. Yet, the version I submitted works for me too. Sounds like a heisenbug. OK, let me

Re: grace notes grumble

2005-08-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Aaron Mehl wrote: indeed, but it's actually wrong, since grace notes are too short to sing a syllable on. I was hoping that was the answer I would get. I am notating folk songs where there is indeed such behaviour, i.e. the singer sings a syllable on a grace You can switch off the slur

ec-fonts-mftraced mess

2005-08-18 Thread Allar Õunapuu
Hello I have found, that under Debian testing there is problem with package clled ec-fonts-mftraced. I have version 1.0.10a-1 installed. This is the part of official apt-repository. There is a bug - output of Lilypond files ahve very ugly fonts for Titles or markup-texts. I tried to install other

Re: grace notes grumble

2005-08-18 Thread Graham Percival
On 18-Aug-05, at 3:00 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Aaron Mehl wrote: indeed, but it's actually wrong, since grace notes are too short to sing a syllable on. I was hoping that was the answer I would get. I am notating folk songs where there is indeed such behaviour, i.e. the singer sings a

Re: grace notes grumble

2005-08-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Graham Percival wrote: You can switch off the slur melismata. Check the manual for details. OF course, that doesn't help if the rest of the piece does have slurs. Well, you can just switch it on again, right? Isn't that what \set ignoreMelismata = ##t \unset ignoreMelismata is for?

Re: grace notes grumble

2005-08-18 Thread Aaron Mehl
Yes indeed, what would be nice would be another type of slur for melismata. or maybe have a slur in the lyrics block, that would make it an explicit slur for lyrics. Aaron indeed, but it defeats the purpose of the automatic melismata, which is that you don't have to worry about this kind of

Re: default font

2005-08-18 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Am 2005-08-17 um 18:03 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: actually the links helped me a lot. navigating around the .pdf was quite a pain in the a**, so i overlooked quite a lot of the crucial infos. But did you manage to set any font? How? I found the hint that fontconfig sees from OSX's fonts

compare lily was Re: unsolicited praise =)

2005-08-18 Thread Aaron Mehl
Well, I looked at the comparison and my first reaction is that this is not a fair deal. They compare gui notation packages with lily? What about a mup/abcm2ps/guido/musictex/philipswriter etc comparison to lilypond. Then we are comparing apples to apples. BTW some of the outputs in the pdf

Broken MIDIs with 2.7.5 on MacOSX

2005-08-18 Thread fiëé visuëlle
lomir.mid Description: Binary data Hi there! Is it a known bug that 2.7.5 creates broken MIDIs, at least on OSX? (I used 2.6.3 before, there it works.) I attached a sample. Greetlings from Lake Constance --- fiëé visuëlle Henning Hraban Ramm http://www.fiee.net

Re: grace notes grumble

2005-08-18 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Thursday 18 August 2005 11.36, Aaron Mehl wrote: I forgot to mention the version I am using if it matters:GNU LilyPond 2.7.3 Also I didn't post the source since the lyrics are in hebrew, if it is relevent I can output a png. It's enough for us to see _an_ example that demonstrates it, it

Suddenly no \break (lilypond-book)

2005-08-18 Thread Wolfgang Mechsner
Hi, suddenly, the \break doesn't work with lilypond-book (version 2.6.3): Any idea? Wolfgang # \begin[staffsize=26]{lilypond} emptymusic = { \repeat unfold 2 % Change this for more lines. { s1 \break } \bar |. } \new Score \with {

Re: compare lily was Re: unsolicited praise =)

2005-08-18 Thread Laura Conrad
AM == Aaron Mehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AM They compare gui notation packages with lily? AM What about a mup/abcm2ps/guido/musictex/philipswriter AM etc comparison to lilypond. I'd be interested in that, too. But so far not interested enough to actually type in the abc or

Re: grace notes grumble

2005-08-18 Thread Aaron Mehl
Note that the current default behaviour in LilyPond corresponds to the typesetting practice used in most printed music. Yeah I know I will play with phrsing slurs, which I didn't see in the doc for the latest development version, I hope they still exist. Aaron /Mats

Re: grace notes grumble

2005-08-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Aaron Mehl wrote: Yes indeed, what would be nice would be another type of slur for melismata. or maybe have a slur in the lyrics block, that would make it an explicit slur for lyrics. One option is to use phrasing slurs, \(...\), for slurs that shouldn't indicate a melisma and ordinary

Re: compare lily was Re: unsolicited praise =)

2005-08-18 Thread Aaron Mehl
I was thinking, why don't we just send the challenge to the maintainers of each of those packages. Is there a way to do it as a group. I mean not Laura Conrad, Hans, Aaron etc but the lilypond users or maybe send it back to the original person who did the first 6? Aaron --- Laura Conrad [EMAIL

Semi-newbie question about lyrics

2005-08-18 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hi, I've been searching the docs, but can't figure out why this won't work... Here's a faily minimal sample of what I'm trying to do. \version 2.6.3 chordsOne = { \chords { c2 c/e f g4:sus4 g c1 es:dim

portato

2005-08-18 Thread Mehmet Okonsar
I couldn't figure this out.. Ver.2.7.4 The manual gives: -\_.. it doesn't work.. Best Regards, Mehmet Okonsar, pianist-composer www.okonsar.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: LilyPond - Midi? [and: Python scripts in Windows native 2.6 version]

2005-08-18 Thread John Mandereau
Aaron Morse wrote: On 8/17/05, John Mandereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please always tell which platform and which LilyPond version you use! Sorry, I completely forgot. I believe I have LilyPond 2.6.3 for Windows on a system running Windows XP Home (Dell Dimension 2400, 256 MB RAM, etc.)

Re: Semi-newbie question about lyrics

2005-08-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Christ van Willegen wrote: Hi, I've been searching the docs, but can't figure out why this won't work... Here's a faily minimal sample of what I'm trying to do. I would actually recommend you to explicitly write out the \score{...}. Also, you are exploiting some more features of LilyPond

Re: portato

2005-08-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson
It seems that a few LaTeX command has survived in the manual by mistake. The proper syntax is c-_ /Mats Mehmet Okonsar wrote: I couldn't figure this out.. Ver.2.7.4 The manual gives: -\_.. it doesn't work.. Best Regards, Mehmet Okonsar, pianist-composer www.okonsar.com

Re: Suddenly no \break (lilypond-book)

2005-08-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I cannot repeat your problem here, but that's probably since you didn't include the header of your LaTeX file. My guess is that you have been hit by the problem discussed in http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2005-08/msg00017.html and some other emails to be found in the list

Re: grace notes grumble

2005-08-18 Thread Graham Percival
On 18-Aug-05, at 6:25 AM, Aaron Mehl wrote: will play with phrsing slurs, which I didn't see in the doc for the latest development version, I hope they still exist. Umm... 6.4.3? It's the section right after slurs. - Graham ___ lilypond-user

Re: Suddenly no \break (lilypond-book)

2005-08-18 Thread Wolfgang Mechsner
Thank you very much, it works! Wolfgang On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 16:50 +0200, Mats Bengtsson wrote: I cannot repeat your problem here, but that's probably since you didn't include the header of your LaTeX file. My guess is that you have been hit by the problem discussed in

\relative

2005-08-18 Thread Stephan Moss
Do folks ever use a mix of \relative and absolute when entering music? If you have: \relative c { block of music } { 2nd block of music } Is 2nd block still in relative mode? How would you cancel relative mode? Thanks Steve Dr. Stephan L. Moss Sr.

Re: grace notes grumble

2005-08-18 Thread Aaron Mehl
Yeah I just looked at slurs and didn't see a link at the bottom of the page to phrasing slurs but now I see it. thanks :{) Aaron --- Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18-Aug-05, at 6:25 AM, Aaron Mehl wrote: will play with phrsing slurs, which I didn't see in the doc for

Re: \relative

2005-08-18 Thread Graham Percival
On 18-Aug-05, at 10:59 AM, Stephan Moss wrote: \relative c { block of music } { 2nd block of music } Is 2nd block still in relative mode? No. The relative mode ends with the }. Cheers, - Graham ___