Different bar lines, musica ficta lyrics font style

2007-02-07 Thread Marcel Korpel
Dear all, When using Lilypond to typeset a transcription of a Palestrina Mass the past couple of days, I stumbled upon several things which bother me more or less: 1. Is it possible to change the bar line depending on whether the note values exceed the measure or not? For instance, when typing

Re: Different bar lines, musica ficta lyrics font style

2007-02-07 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Marcel Korpel wrote: Dear all, When using Lilypond to typeset a transcription of a Palestrina Mass the past couple of days, I stumbled upon several things which bother me more or less: 1. Is it possible to change the bar line depending on whether the note values exceed the measure or not?

Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Trevor Bača
Hi, Hopefully this won't be rocking the boat too much, but I'd like to open a small discussion about reorganizing the contents of the \paper block. Section 11.1.2 Page formatting lists 27 \paper settings: first-page-number print-first-page-number print-page-number paper-width paper-height

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Trevor Bača escreveu: I wouldn't ask except for the fact that I've now been laying out score very successfully with lily for going on two years and I still have to stop and ask myself Hmm ... I'm wanting to pad systems on the page so that they lay out more loosely. So that concerns layout

lilypond-book --pdf doesn't work for me (was Re: Failed to extract font)

2007-02-07 Thread Laura Conrad
Mats == Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mats I recommend to use the pdflatex mode of lilypond-book: Mats lilypond-book --pdf --output=out 1-test1.lytex Mats cd out Mats pdflatex 1-test1 I'm having trouble making this work. I'm on an Ubuntu edgy system running lilypond

Lyric Ties

2007-02-07 Thread Aaron Dalton
I'm setting a Renaissance madrigal and am getting a series of compilation errors with regards to lyric ties. programming error: Glyph has no name, but font supports glyph naming. Skipping glyph U+1000203F, file /home/aaron/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf//CenturySchL-Roma.otf

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Trevor Bača
On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trevor Bača escreveu: I wouldn't ask except for the fact that I've now been laying out score very successfully with lily for going on two years and I still have to stop and ask myself Hmm ... I'm wanting to pad systems on the page so

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Trevor Bača escreveu: On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trevor Bača escreveu: I wouldn't ask except for the fact that I've now been laying out score very successfully with lily for going on two years and I still have to stop and ask myself Hmm ... I'm wanting to pad

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Trevor Bača
On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trevor Bača escreveu: On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trevor Bača escreveu: I wouldn't ask except for the fact that I've now been laying out score very successfully with lily for going on two years and I still

RE: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Kress, Stephen
I think Han-Wen said it himself (though he didn't realize it). I like the idea if \paper being as you described (with just the six properties). Put all the other stuff (the outside-the-score layout stuff) in a new block called \page-layout Maybe, if folks get too confused between \page-layout

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Trevor Bača
On 2/7/07, Kress, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Han-Wen said it himself (though he didn't realize it). I like the idea if \paper being as you described (with just the six properties). Me too. I think that greatly clears up what belongs in the \paper block -- just stuff that

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread David Rogers
I propose: \papersize (for only the actual paper-related items) \systemlayout (for Trevor's list 1) \headerlayout (for Trevor's list 2) Not perfect but maybe clear enough. David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Trevor Bača
On 2/7/07, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trevor Bača escreveu: On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trevor Bača escreveu: I wouldn't ask except for the fact that I've now been laying out score very

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Trevor Bača
On 2/7/07, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question for anyone who can answer: are there *any* settings that *can* go in a score-level \layout block but *can not* go in the top-level \paper block? Second question: why do the top-level \layout { ragged-right = ##t } and \paper {

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Trevor Bača escreveu: Right now both list 1 and list 2 will just be put together into the outside-of-score (\paper) bucket. But it seems that may list 1 is really concerned with the *the layout of music on the page* whereas list 2 is concerned with *adding headers and footers outside the

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Trevor Bača escreveu: I'm used to thinking of ragged-right as a layout setting. But, apparently, ragged-right can go in either the (top-level) \paper or (top-level) \layout block equally. Why is this allowed? Is there some benefit? As I said, the scoping is nested at runtime: if a lookup in

midi to ly

2007-02-07 Thread Marc
Hello! First, I want to thank Mats B., Valentin V. and Graham P. for their useful comments on the reference manual. I also have a question about midi to ly. I am using Lilypond version 2.10.14 on a Windows XP SP2. When I open Lilypond I get a DOS command window and a lilypond text editor. I

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Graham Percival
David Rogers wrote: I propose: \papersize (for only the actual paper-related items) \systemlayout (for Trevor's list 1) \headerlayout (for Trevor's list 2) I second this proposal, although they should probably be \paperSize \systemLayout \headerLayout or \paper-size \system-layout

Two staves one stops with repeat the other continues

2007-02-07 Thread Jay Hamilton
I wrote a little chaconne duet violin/cello The cello part has the ostinato of 4 bars and repeats 3 times the violin part has 7 bars a repeat then a 2nd ending. I wanted to print it out that way but the repeat sign always extends to the other staff. version 2.8.4 XP Thanks if you can just

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Trevor Bača
On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trevor Bača escreveu: Right now both list 1 and list 2 will just be put together into the outside-of-score (\paper) bucket. But it seems that may list 1 is really concerned with the *the layout of music on the page* whereas list 2 is

RE: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Kress, Stephen
I like this suggestion also, though I prefer Graham's second set of names. Stephen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Graham Percival Sent: Wed 2/7/2007 4:17 PM To: David Rogers Cc: lilypond-devel; lilypond-user Subject: Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Trevor Bača
On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trevor Bača escreveu: Right now both list 1 and list 2 will just be put together into the outside-of-score (\paper) bucket. But it seems that may list 1 is really concerned with the *the layout of music on the page* whereas list 2 is

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread David Rogers
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:17:36 -0800, Graham Percival wrote: David Rogers wrote: I propose: \papersize (for only the actual paper-related items) \systemlayout (for Trevor's list 1) \headerlayout (for Trevor's list 2) I second this proposal, although they should probably be \paperSize

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread David Rogers
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 16:45:26 -0600, Trevor Bača wrote: And now I see why Han-Wen keeps inviting a name change of the \paper and \layout buckets (while implicitly discouraging the moving around of settings between those two buckets): the buckets show the *scope* of the different settings, which

Occasional lyrics attached to another voice

2007-02-07 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert
Hey, list, I have a question about fitting lyrics. In the file I've pasted below this message is the hymn I am arranging for Barbershop chorus. The final stanza has all the four parts singing separately, as you can see. But there are occasional spots, as in stanza 1 where some parts will

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Bryan Stanbridge
David Rogers wrote: The correct answer is (I believe) exactly as you proposed earlier. Talking about Lilypond's internal logic is IMHO counterproductive. In fact, internally, I suspect Lilypond should stay the same - it just needs to allow the user to use it effectively by making (or even

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Trevor Bača
On 2/7/07, David Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 16:45:26 -0600, Trevor Bača wrote: And now I see why Han-Wen keeps inviting a name change of the \paper and \layout buckets (while implicitly discouraging the moving around of settings between those two buckets): the buckets

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Trevor Bača
On 2/7/07, Bryan Stanbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Rogers wrote: The correct answer is (I believe) exactly as you proposed earlier. Talking about Lilypond's internal logic is IMHO counterproductive. In fact, internally, I suspect Lilypond should stay the same - it just needs to allow

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread David Rogers
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:52:54 -0600, Trevor Bača wrote: ... But maybe this logical, user-centric division can be handled perfectly cleanly just in the docs? The docs for settings can then look something like this (and this is obviously just a sketch, some pseudocode for the actual docs that

Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

2007-02-07 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
[Sidenote: if this proposal to collapse \paper and \alyout does make sense, then we'll have to decide what to do with the fact that there's a second, equally important use for \layout blocks, which is the overriding of context attributes ... which is a wholly separate thing from making the