Re: Aligning relative to page - Use OOoLilyPond

2007-07-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
But it really bothers me when programmers get condescending with users, implying that we are stupid if we can't understand the documentation, or if we don't have all hundreds of pages of snippets using complex overrides and Scheme tweaks memorized. Well, we *need* to know what you don't

Re: Aligning relative to page - Use OOoLilyPond

2007-07-12 Thread Graham Percival
Paul Harouff wrote: The problem with the LilyPond documentation is that users ... don't contribute as much as they should. http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/documentation-adding If I could wave a magic wand to get perfect documentation, I would. If I could turn into a magical

Re: Aligning relative to page - Use OOoLilyPond

2007-07-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/7/12, Paul Harouff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Valentin, I'm not trying to start an email flame war. But it really bothers me when programmers get condescending with users, implying that we are stupid if we can't understand the documentation, or if we don't have all hundreds of pages of snippets

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \line

2007-07-12 Thread sdfgsdhdshd
Valentin Villenave wrote: Actually, this is precisely what lilypond-book is all about: it allows the tex processor to invoke lilypond, and this way can integrate music fragments in a text document. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Integrating-LaTeX-and-music In

Lily becoming more user-friendly

2007-07-12 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op donderdag 12 juli 2007, schreef Valentin Villenave: -yes, LilyPond could be (and will hopefully become in a few years) more user-friendly; How will that be done? Are there big architecture changes planned? I fully understand Paul's frustrations regarding the intermingled syntax of lily

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \line

2007-07-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/7/12, sdfgsdhdshd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In this link, i read how many systems you want before each fragment. What does system mean? This word is present several times in the main lilypond doc, but i can't figure its meaning related to lilypond. I found this definition on Google (it explains

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \line

2007-07-12 Thread Rune Zedeler
sdfgsdhdshd skrev: In this link, i read how many systems you want before each fragment. What does system mean? This word is present several times in the main lilypond doc, but i can't figure its meaning related to lilypond. Read the glossary, that can be found from the main documentation page

Re: Aligning relative to page - Use OOoLilyPond

2007-07-12 Thread Laura Conrad
Werner == Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I gave up trying to understand the \markup documentation when I discovered I could use OOoLilyPond to create png score snippets for each hymn that I could paste into MS Word documents containing the text of the church

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \line

2007-07-12 Thread Romel Anthony S. Bismonte
A system is a single line of a set of staves that are grouped together. OK, maybe that isn't the best explanation, but maybe an illustration is better: Grand Piano |||||| Guitar |||||| Flute |||||| GPno

Re: Aligning relative to page - Use OOoLilyPond

2007-07-12 Thread sdfgsdhdshd
Laura Conrad wrote: if there's ever a system for aligning text on the page that's anything like as sophisticated as a good publishing program has, it will take the amount of person-years of work that the good publishing programs spent on it. Which I'm sure is 10's of years if not

Re: Aligning relative to page

2007-07-12 Thread Romel Anthony S. Bismonte
Thanks for all the suggestions. Everything that I read on the mailing list sends me back to the LilyPond user manual, and every time that happens, I understand it a little bit more. The document is pretty cryptic in places, but then again, so are most important documents. I mean, I think

midi repair [was:] mid and midi

2007-07-12 Thread Francois Planiol-Auger
Hi Thanks to all who tried to help till now. I tried also with a lute prelude (the first one on this lute page @tobis). The problem remains. But now, I know why. All these Midi-files where certainly done using quantization. During playing the player played everything staccato, what is normal

Re: Aligning relative to page - Use OOoLilyPond

2007-07-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
If you have the technical capability to complain about the docs, you have the technical ability to improve those docs. Hear, hear! This is a good saying, worth to remember. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

How do I: print a staff, end it, and then print some others?

2007-07-12 Thread sqrt
Hi! I would like to first make a staff with the notes called melody. Then, when the notes stop, I'd like to start a new set of staves, namely the choir. I thought, the following code would be the answer, but instead of stopping when there are no more notes, the melody staff is printed, on top

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \line

2007-07-12 Thread sdfgsdhdshd
Valentin Villenave wrote: 2007/7/12, sdfgsdhdshd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In this link, i read how many systems you want before each fragment. What does system mean? This word is present several times in the main lilypond doc, but i can't figure its meaning related to lilypond. I found this

Trying to create a custom markup command

2007-07-12 Thread Romel Anthony S. Bismonte
I liked the idea of a segue so much, that I decided that I should write a custom markup command for it: #(define-markup-command (segue layout props tosong) (string?) (interpret-markup layout props (markup #:small #:column segue to #:italic tosong) ) ) The usage (as I

Re: Trying to create a custom markup command

2007-07-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
c1_\segue #Something Else Only `c1-\segue' works, IIRC. Writing something which works with `_' and `^' is a bit more difficult; however, I've added an example some time ago to the docs. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Trying to create a custom markup command

2007-07-12 Thread Romel Anthony S. Bismonte
c1_\segue #Something Else Only `c1-\segue' works, IIRC. Writing something which works with `_' and `^' is a bit more difficult; however, I've added an example some time ago to the docs. Werner I tried `c1-\segue #Something Else'. This didn't work, either. The log file says that

Re: using jEdit 4.3pre9 on WinXP + LylipondTool / no midi output / solved!!

2007-07-12 Thread Ledocq-Boccart
Hi Tao and all Lilyponders! In fact I got no sound on my speakers using the midi player of Lilytool. Nevertheless the same file.midi gave sounds on the speakers when opened with the default player (i.e.Windows Media Player ). Looking at audio presets in menu startup/parameters/audio

Empty lines showing

2007-07-12 Thread Daniel Boronka
I'm writing multiple lines of music and some parts come in later by a few lines (or sometimes a page or 2). Does anyone know how to make to empty bars and empty lines not show up until needed? See example below: Daniel Boronka Example \version 2.6.4 \header { title = Chi mi

RE: Trying to create a custom markup command

2007-07-12 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
Romel wrote: I liked the idea of a segue so much, that I decided that I should write a custom markup command for it: #(define-markup-command (segue layout props tosong) (string?) (interpret-markup layout props (markup #:small #:column segue to #:italic tosong) ) )

Re: Trying to create a custom markup command

2007-07-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/7/12, Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I hope this has been helpful. I was about to add it to the LSR when I realized it only works when your score contains only *one* note... Try adding a few more notes before the c'1, and you'll see it doesn't work any longer. What has to be done?

Re: Ugly volta brackets

2007-07-12 Thread Dominic Neumann
Hi again, I´m still searching for a way to solve this problem. Is there anyone who has an idea how to tweak lilypond? Dominic 2007/3/15, Dominic Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: okay, sorry for not posting an example. It´s not that easy to find a simple one, because in the simple situations there´s

Re: Empty lines showing

2007-07-12 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 12.07.2007, Daniel Boronka disait : I'm writing multiple lines of music and some parts come in later by a few lines (or sometimes a page or 2). Does anyone know how to make to empty bars and empty lines not show up until needed? See example below: Have a look at section 8.3.2 Hiding

Re: Ugly volta brackets

2007-07-12 Thread Stan Sanderson
Dominic- My apologies for not having seen the previous thread, but the following changes to your code appear (to me) to resolve the clash... Stan On Jul 12, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Dominic Neumann wrote: Hi again, I´m still searching for a way to solve this problem. Is there anyone who has an

Re: Ugly volta brackets

2007-07-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/7/12, Dominic Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi again, Hi Dominic, I´m still searching for a way to solve this problem. Is there anyone who has an idea how to tweak lilypond? I tried the snippet you posted, and as you can see the result doesn't look ugly at all. Have you tried with the

Re: Ugly volta brackets

2007-07-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/7/12, Stan Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Valentin, I get the output from Dominic's code which he complains about: (LP 2.10.25) Yes, I can see that, but it doesn't collide here on 2.11.27 (linux32). This might have been fixed with the new spacing code or something, which is why I asked

Re: Ugly volta brackets

2007-07-12 Thread Daniel Tonda
This is how it looks in LP 2.11.27. No collisions! :) 2007/7/12, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/7/12, Stan Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Valentin, I get the output from Dominic's code which he complains about: (LP 2.10.25) Yes, I can see that, but it doesn't collide here on

Re: Trying to create a custom markup command

2007-07-12 Thread Graham Percival
Romel Anthony S. Bismonte wrote: By the way, I am interested in contributing to the documentation. The main instructions are here: http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/documentation-adding If you don't have any ideas for specific improvements, I have a list of improvements waiting for

LilyPond Odd Jobs (mostly docs)

2007-07-12 Thread Graham Percival
(this list will be posted to lilypond-user from time to time; it will not be posted on a wiki or anything like that, since I'm the only person who should be modifying the list) Lilypond Odd Jobs - ONE-SHOT JOBS (estimated time: between 1/2 and 2 hours) - create example for

RE: Trying to create a custom markup command

2007-07-12 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
Valentin wrote: -Original Message- From: Valentin Villenave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:51 PM I was about to add it to the LSR when I realized it only works when your score contains only *one* note... Try adding a few more notes before the c'1,

Re: LilyPond Odd Jobs (mostly docs)

2007-07-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/7/13, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lilypond Odd Jobs - Thank you Graham. - create example for automatic accidental examples that demonstrates everything OK, I'll take this one. - special markup command examples (note head styles, rotation, etc: complicated

RE: Trying to create a custom markup command

2007-07-12 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
Valentin wrote: What has to be done? How do you define the (string?) start? Oops -- my bad. I misread the error messages. All that needs to happen is to enclose the multiple notes in braces, to make a single music expression. Multiple notes outside of braces make multiple music expressions

Re: TesxtSpanner

2007-07-12 Thread Graham Percival
Peter Terpstra wrote: I got this from the lilypond.pdf documentation from the lilypond site, but is not okay?? I have lilypondversion 2.8.7. The LilyPond syntax changes, and the manual changes with it. Please upgrade to the latest stable version, and see the documentation for that version.

TesxtSpanner

2007-07-12 Thread Peter Terpstra
Dear readers, How does this work? I use this: \textSpannerUp \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'text = II \startTextSpan fis''-1 d-2 b,-1 2\stopTextSpan Ant I get this error: error: syntax error, unexpected SCM_T, expecting '=' \override

Re: Trying to create a custom markup command

2007-07-12 Thread Romel Anthony S. Bismonte
Ah, all right! Now I'm pointed in the right direction. Thanks, again, guys. Maybe I shouldn't code or read the manual when my mind is telling me that I should sleep. It sure is clear what I did wrong now that I see my code in the light of day! But hey, a bug, right? That's pretty exciting;

Re: Trying to create a custom markup command

2007-07-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/7/13, Romel Anthony S. Bismonte [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'll bother some other list about how to make it work in IE. ^_^ Yep; I bet MS guys will be thankful if you send them a patch :) Greetings, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: LilyPond Odd Jobs (mostly docs)

2007-07-12 Thread Graham Percival
Valentin Villenave wrote: 2007/7/13, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lilypond Odd Jobs - I forgot to mention that anybody interested in the docs should look at the unstable 2.11 docs. There are a number of doc improvements that haven't been merged with the 2.10 docs