Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

2008-02-29 Thread Kurt Kroon
On 2008/02/28 11:34 PM, Anh Hai Trinh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok I was being lazy. The Harvard dict 4th ed. defines Polymeter. The simultaneous use of two or more meters. and there you have it. The term sequential polymeter is a contradiction. The *New* Harvard Dictionary of Music, 2nd

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

2008-02-29 Thread Kurt Kroon
On 2008/02/28 11:54 PM, Anh Hai Trinh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * compound time sig -- this is a well established term refering to meter such as 6/8, 9/8, 6/4, etc. in contrast to simple meters such as 3/8, 3/4, etc. I just wanted to point out here that coumpond time signature is also

Re: pedal bracket too short

2008-02-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Please always tell what LilyPond version you use. A possibly related bug was fixed in version 2.11.40 or 2.11.41. /Mats Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Lilypond-users, I don't know why, but in the below quoted example is the pedal bracket shorter than expected. I find it strange, that it works

Re: pedal bracket too short

2008-02-29 Thread Stefan Thomas
I use version 2.11.38 Is the problem with the vertical position of the pedal-bracket also solved in the newest version? 2008/2/29, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please always tell what LilyPond version you use. A possibly related bug was fixed in version 2.11.40 or 2.11.41. /Mats

Re: Problems defining a BraceStaff

2008-02-29 Thread John Zaitseff
Dear LilyPonders, Mats wrote: The question is: how do I define a BraceStaff that is exactly like a ChoirStaff, except that braces are used instead of brackets at the start of systems? In particular, I tried to define the following in my stylesheet (which gets included into all my

Re: Problems defining a BraceStaff

2008-02-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
It seems that you forgot to include your new context into the context hieararchy, see section Defining new contexts in the manual for instructions on how to do that using the \accepts keyword. /Mats John Zaitseff wrote: Dear LilyPond users, I have searched the LilyPond documentation,

Re: Problems defining a BraceStaff

2008-02-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Do you want both the default ChoirStaff and the BraceStaff in the same score (or in the same .ly file)? Otherwise, the easiest solution is just to redefine the ChoirStaff context in the files where you want the brace instead of the bracket: \layout{ \context{ \ChoirStaff

Re: pedal bracket too short

2008-02-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I have just tried your example with the latest version of the source code and it seems that the problem remains. It seems related to http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2008-02/msg00172.html but the problem remains even though that patch has been applied in the version I tried.

Re: GDP: What term do you use?

2008-02-29 Thread till Rettig
Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:46:42 +0200 Von: Risto Vääräniemi [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: till [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org Betreff: Re: GDP: What term do you use? On 28/02/2008, till wrote: I just checked Felix Krohn again (well it is a bit

Re: Problems defining a BraceStaff

2008-02-29 Thread John Zaitseff
Dear Mats / other LilyPonders, Mats wrote: Do you want both the default ChoirStaff and the BraceStaff in the same score (or in the same .ly file)? Yes, I do. The solution you had suggested (redefining the ChoirStaff context) had already occurred to me... Otherwise, I think you only

text spanner for pedal

2008-02-29 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Lilypond-users, I want to create a text-spanner for the pedal sign. I hope that I can avoid problems with vertical collisions between pedal-signs and dynamic. Unfortunately the below quoted file doesn't work as expected. I can't see the Ped and the line goes down, although it should go up,

Re: Comments in GDP, Was: comments

2008-02-29 Thread Nicholas WASTELL
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:34:51 -0800 Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're not using the term user manual, but obviously I didn't change it somewhere. It says 'User manual' in the page title of all the html pages and on the title page of the .pdf (v.2.11.41). It shoudl be Notation

Different time signature for different parts

2008-02-29 Thread Tim Yang
Hi, I have a score here that the solo instrument and accompaniment have different time signatures. The piece is from a Divertimento of Giovanni Battista Bononcini. The solo instrument has time signature 12/8, and the accompaniment part is written as 4/4. So the solo part can be seen as all

RE: Comments in GDP, Was: comments

2008-02-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Nicholas WASTELL wrote on 29 February 2008 08:14 Only after spending some time in lilypond-world. 'Getting Started' and 'User Manual' are pretty well de facto standards, but I like a bit of individualism! ;-) Of course, the Learning Manual is much more than Getting Started and

Re: pedal bracket too short

2008-02-29 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Reinhold, You wrote: the bracket always ends at the staff change or at the last note (i.e. it does not end at a rest!) But in the below quoted example it does! re = \change Staff = rechts li = \change Staff = links pedrunter = {\once \override Staff.SustainPedal #'outside-staff-priority =

Re: pedal bracket too short

2008-02-29 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Freitag, 29. Februar 2008 schrieben Sie: I have just tried your example with the latest version of the source code and it seems that the problem remains. It seems related to http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2008-02/msg00172.html but the problem remains even though that

Re: lilypond and mac under leopard

2008-02-29 Thread Simon Bailey
hi, On Feb 29, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Claude Hervieu wrote: I have just bought a mac with OS leopard. I have download Lilypond for this machine. Lilypond does not run : when I run program a text file is opened but I cannot save it because in the menu just the word Lilypond appear. this has been

Re: text spanner for pedal

2008-02-29 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear lilypond-users, I think I found a solution that works now. The new \pedal-command is, at least in the below quoted example, below the piano-sign, and a collision with the music in the staff below is avoided. As You can see, it can be terminated after a rest as well as an short-rest. The only

lilypond and mac under leopard

2008-02-29 Thread Claude Hervieu
hello I have just bought a mac with OS leopard. I have download Lilypond for this machine. Lilypond does not run : when I run program a text file is opened but I cannot save it because in the menu just the word Lilypond appear. I thank you by advance. claude

Re: pedal bracket too short

2008-02-29 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Freitag, 29. Februar 2008 schrieben Sie: Dear Reinhold, You wrote: the bracket always ends at the staff change or at the last note (i.e. it does not end at a rest!) But in the below quoted example it does! Okay, I just noticed that this only applies to whole-measure rests. If you change

Re: lilypond and mac under leopard

2008-02-29 Thread Hans Aberg
On 29 Feb 2008, at 12:26, Simon Bailey wrote: this has been covered numerous times in the mailinglists. Probably because there are no instructions at the downloads page :-). please search the archives. trick is: download non-intel version and use TeXShop. One variation, I surmise, but I

Re: lilypond and mac under leopard

2008-02-29 Thread Hans Aberg
On 29 Feb 2008, at 13:36, Simon Bailey wrote: One variation, I surmise, but I gather one will have to figure out how to set up TeXShop. for these reasons, here's a (very) quick runthrough: http://simon.bailey.at/blog/lilyleopard/ I wonder, doesn't TeXShop have everything the old LilyPond

Re: Additive time signatures

2008-02-29 Thread Rune Zedeler
I have added a snippet that sets the beam grouping automatically. Needs loads of cleanup, but works. http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1id=395 -Rune ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Additive time signatures

2008-02-29 Thread Hans Aberg
On 29 Feb 2008, at 14:53, Rune Zedeler wrote: I have added a snippet that sets the beam grouping automatically. Needs loads of cleanup, but works. http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1id=395 Two possible extensions: One might want (if called for) to have subbeaming, as in the what gets

Re: lilypond and mac under leopard -- the simple solution!

2008-02-29 Thread Ivo Bouwmans
Hallo all, Claude Hervieu wrote: I have just bought a mac with OS leopard. I have download Lilypond for this machine. Lilypond does not run... There is a very simple solution, which can be found on: http://ivo.bouwmans.name/lilypondleopard/ By the way: Simon Bailey answered: this has

Re: lilypond and mac under leopard -- the simple solution!

2008-02-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Ivo Bouwmans wrote: I asked for a link on the Lilypond download page, just to avoid problems like Claude is experiencing, and I don't know why no link has been made yet... Does the development team have any objections to my LilypondScript? Please let me know! The problem is rather that

Re: GDP: \articulation and -\articulation

2008-02-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: 2008/2/26, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: These are both valid: { c'2-\accent c'2\accent } Should we keep the - version in the docs at all? Does it really add anything (especially since most people use the plain \ version) ? It's necessary for

Re: lilypond and mac under leopard -- the simple solution!

2008-02-29 Thread Ivo Bouwmans
Hallo Simon, i know this isn't very nice of me, :-) but i'm going to disagree with simple here. here are the reasons: step 2: forcing me to use ~/Documents/LilypondFiles for ALL my lilypond files is a no-go. LilypondScript is meant for those who do not normally use the command line or

Re: lilypond and mac under leopard -- the simple solution!

2008-02-29 Thread Ivo Bouwmans
Hallo Mats, I asked for a link on the Lilypond download page, [...] The problem is rather that nobody feels really responsible for that part of the web pages. Which is a pity, really, for that is where new users get their first impression of Lilypond. The way it is now, Leopard users may

Re: Different time signature for different parts

2008-02-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Tim, Is is possible to express this score in Lilypond? Search for things like polymetric and multiple meters in the documentation (including list archives) -- there are lots of examples of how to do this. Good luck, Kieren. ___

Re: lilypond and mac under leopard -- the simple solution!

2008-02-29 Thread Simon Bailey
hi ivo, On Feb 29, 2008, at 3:45 PM, Ivo Bouwmans wrote: There is a very simple solution, which can be found on: http://ivo.bouwmans.name/lilypondleopard/ ...SNIP... I asked for a link on the Lilypond download page, just to avoid problems like Claude is experiencing, and I don't know why

Re: GDP: \articulation and -\articulation

2008-02-29 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008/2/26, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: These are both valid: { c'2-\accent c'2\accent } Should we keep the - version in the docs at all? Does it really add anything (especially since most people use the plain \ version) ? It's necessary for some constructions, with music

Re: lilypond and mac under leopard -- the simple solution!

2008-02-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:44:01 +0100 Ivo Bouwmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo Mats, I asked for a link on the Lilypond download page, [...] The problem is rather that nobody feels really responsible for that part of the web pages. Which is a pity, really, for that is where new users

Re: Comments in GDP, Was: comments

2008-02-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:14:19 +0100 Nicholas WASTELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:34:51 -0800 Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're not using the term user manual, but obviously I didn't change it somewhere. It says 'User manual' in the page title of all the

Re: lilypond and mac under leopard -- the simple solution!

2008-02-29 Thread Ivo Bouwmans
Hallo Graham, I asked for a link on the Lilypond download page, [...] The problem is rather that nobody feels really responsible for that part of the web pages. Which is a pity, really, for that is where new users get their first impression of Lilypond. The way it is now, Leopard users may

decrease distance between beams in tremolo?

2008-02-29 Thread Peter Van Kranenburg
hello list, Is it possible to decrease the distance between the beams of a tremolo? I'm asking because I'm typsetting 17th century organ music which has an ornament of two slashed through the stem all the time. If I decrease the thickness of a tremolo, it looks almost right, except for the

lilypond-book with multi-dir projects

2008-02-29 Thread Graham Percival
I wish we'd finished NR 1 ages ago, so that the AU would be in better shape... oh well. Has anybody used lilypond-book for large (100+ pages) documents? In particular, I'm having trouble with .lytex files in subdirectories. thesis.tex exercises/exercises.lytex = exercises/exercises.tex The

strange error

2008-02-29 Thread hhpmusic
Hi, I'm coping the opening of my violin concerto (just an experiment to try braille music software in 2006). The log file gives an error of init.ly, which I can't deal with. I checked my input file, and can't make sure everything is right. Could you please tell me what the error means? Haipeng

Re: strange error

2008-02-29 Thread Graham Percival
I'm 95% certain that you missed a } or somewhere, but I don't have the time to analyze your file to see where it is. HTH, - Graham On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:39:43 +0800 (CST) hhpmusic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm coping the opening of my violin concerto (just an experiment to try braille

Re: strange error

2008-02-29 Thread Ledocq-Boccart
Hi, Just a suggestion... If not yet the case, using jedit as code editor could maybe make it easier for checking missing { or } (pairs of linked brackets are highlighted when mouse cursor is positionned just after the character). http://www.jedit.org Also check separately each instrument

cross-staff synchronized grace-note figure

2008-02-29 Thread Eric Flesher
This may have been addressed before, but my search of the archives hasn't returned anything: Is it possible in a piano (grand-staff) score to create a grace-note figures such that: 1. the figure consists of 4 notes in the bass staff (beamed as small 8th notes) 2. the second note of the figure

Three questions about good German usage?

2008-02-29 Thread Trevor Bača
Hi, I have three questions about good German usage: 1. Are natürlichen Flageolettönen and künstlichen Flageolettönen the correct terms for natural and artificial harmonics? 2. Is there a German term to describe the stopped note in an artificial harmonic? (In Italian we would say capotasto ...

Re: lilypond-book with multi-dir projects

2008-02-29 Thread Daniel Tonda
2008/2/29, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wish we'd finished NR 1 ages ago, so that the AU would be in better shape... oh well. Has anybody used lilypond-book for large (100+ pages) documents? In particular, I'm having trouble with .lytex files in subdirectories. thesis.tex

Re: cross-staff synchronized grace-note figure

2008-02-29 Thread David Fedoruk
Is it possible in a piano (grand-staff) score to create a grace-note figures such that: 1. the figure consists of 4 notes in the bass staff (beamed as small 8th notes) 2. the second note of the figure synchronizes with the same pitch on beat 1 of the treble staff. 3. this second

Re: lilypond-book with multi-dir projects

2008-02-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 00:23:37 -0600 Daniel Tonda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/2/29, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wish we'd finished NR 1 ages ago, so that the AU would be in better shape... oh well. Has anybody used lilypond-book for large (100+ pages) documents? In

RE: strange error

2008-02-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Haipeng Line 20 - missing before Andante. Should be: toptextA = \markup { \bold \italic Andante } This is the mistake which causes the error in init.ly. There are a couple of other minor errors: Line 39 - incorrect string ae\!. Maybe should be: \repeat tremolo 16 { f\ ees } \repeat

Re: Three questions about good German usage?

2008-02-29 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Am 29. Februar 2008, 23:56 Uhr (-0600) schrieb Trevor Bača: Hi, I have three questions about good German usage: 1. Are natürlichen Flageolettönen and künstlichen Flageolettönen the correct terms for natural and artificial harmonics? It is probably not wrong to use the term Flageoletton,

Re: Three questions about good German usage?

2008-02-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
1. Are natürlichen Flageolettönen and künstlichen Flageolettönen the correct terms for natural and artificial harmonics? Plural with article: 1. Fall: die natürlichen/künstlichen Flageolettöne 2. Fall: der natürlichen/künstlichen Flageolettöne 3. Fall: den natürlichen/künstlichen