Re: Documentation Review

2008-09-24 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
On di, 2008-09-23 at 23:16 +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: 2008/9/23 Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We have one on the main page of lilypond.org, but unfortunately it often finds hits in old versions of the documentation first. Hadn't we solved this problem by adding an appropriate

Re: Documentation Review

2008-09-24 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:14:00 +0200 schrieb Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On di, 2008-09-23 at 23:16 +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: 2008/9/23 Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We have one on the main page of lilypond.org, but unfortunately it often finds hits in old versions

Re: increase space between multiple songs

2008-09-24 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:56:17 +0200 schrieb Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is this the right way to do it? There's no single right or wrong solution, but if you go to LSR Thanks, then i'm ok with my approach ... But how about the vertical spacing: See here how ugly my music looks with

choral sample

2008-09-24 Thread Laura Harvey
Hi - I just downloaded lilypond recently, and am interested in trying out a choral piece. I'm confused about the set-up, though, and none of the samples that you have on your documentation are specifically for choral works. Do you have one handy with one or 2 choral parts (separate staves) AND

Re: increase space between multiple songs

2008-09-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/9/24 Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: TIA for any hints how to improve that. A solution would be to tweak your title markup to give it some padding; have a look at the padding commands described on http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Graphic-notation-inside-markup

Re: choral sample

2008-09-24 Thread Graham Percival
Yes; try looking at the Vocal enembles in the Templates (LM appendix A.4). I suggest you also look at the 2.11 docs, which are much better than the 2.10 docs. Cheers, - Graham On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:01:10 + (UTC) Laura Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi - I just downloaded lilypond

Searching the docs (was: Re: Documentation Review)

2008-09-24 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:05:59 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=site%3Alilypond.org+inurl%3Av2.11+blah Another refinement: Add intitle:Manual or intitle:Reference to search only the manual or the reference. More here:

Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Johan Vromans
I noticed that Evince (I have Fedora 8 with Evince 2.20.2) does a lousy job on printing LilyPond scores. It may do a bad job on other prints as well, but the effect on LilyPond scores is dramatic. See for yourself: http://www.squirrel.nl/pub/xfer/lpev.png . Image left is scanned from a print by

Re: indent in latex

2008-09-24 Thread Alan Fabian
Roman, perfect, that's it! Thank you, Alan Am 24.09.2008 um 04:23 schrieb Roman Stawski: Hi, I integrated a lilypond-file then processed by lilypond-book in latex and I got an indent as you can see in the attached pdf. The code for that fragment in latex looks like that: ... Bestandteil

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/9/24 Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I noticed that Evince (I have Fedora 8 with Evince 2.20.2) does a lousy job on printing LilyPond scores. It may do a bad job on other prints as well, but the effect on LilyPond scores is dramatic. See for yourself:

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/9/24 Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I reported the same problem with very similar pictures. This seems to be a fault of the bad rendering Evince does from the thin rounded rectangles that LilyPond makes for barlines. Use kpdf. :-( I also posted a bug report for this in the appropiate

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Jonathan Kulp
I have only a couple of non-free apps on my Ubuntu machines, and Acrobat Reader is one of them because of this problem. :( Jon p.s. BTW, Apple's Preview also seems to render lilypond-generated .pdf files badly compared to Acrobat Reader. At least when I print them they look terrible from

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Francisco Vila
see http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg37172.html and others. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Johan Vromans
Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2008/9/24 Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I also posted a bug report for this in the appropiate component, but nobody in the devel team for Evince seems to be willing to investigate it. Do you have an URL so I can add some incentive? -- Johan

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Alexander Kobel
Jonathan Kulp wrote: I have only a couple of non-free apps on my Ubuntu machines, and Acrobat Reader is one of them because of this problem. :( Jon p.s. BTW, Apple's Preview also seems to render lilypond-generated .pdf files badly compared to Acrobat Reader. At least when I print them

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Johan Vromans
Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: see http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg37172.html AFAICS (and you can see it on my example pics too) this has nothing to do with the form that evince renders the rounded rectangles that barlines are made from. It looks as if it renders

Removing bundled LilyPond

2008-09-24 Thread notesetter
I'd like to remove LilyPond 2.10.33, which came bundled with Ubuntu Studio 8.04 and then install 2.11.59. I ran the install shell script and 2.11.59 installed in my home directory fine. However, when I go to use it, the 'lilypond' command still invokes version 2.10.33. I started to remove the old

Re: Removing bundled LilyPond

2008-09-24 Thread Jonathan Kulp
This came up in a thread a little while back. Read here: http://www.archivum.info/lilypond-user@gnu.org/2008-08/msg00725.html Hope it helps... Jon notesetter wrote: I'd like to remove LilyPond 2.10.33, which came bundled with Ubuntu Studio 8.04 and then install 2.11.59. I ran the install

Re: Removing bundled LilyPond

2008-09-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:09:25 -0700 (PDT) notesetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Install 2.11.59 via shell script and alter my system so that the command 'lilypond' points to the new installation in my home directory. Do this. It's as simply as putting $HOME/bin/ in front of /usr/bin/ in your

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Alexander Kobel
Jonathan Kulp wrote: I haven't looked very far into it. I use Preview for previewing things, because as you say it's very fast, but if I have to print it and make it look good, I use Adobe Reader. It's probably the print driver, because when I zoom in on-screen everything looks great on

Re: Removing bundled LilyPond

2008-09-24 Thread Alexander Kobel
notesetter wrote: [...] 1) Install 2.11.59 via shell script and alter my system so that the command 'lilypond' points to the new installation in my home directory. Usually it is sufficient to rename the old executable and point a symbolic link to the new one; say you installed the recent

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Francisco Vila
Please note that this has nothing to do with actual printing, Evince shows this problem in preview too. I'll pass you an URL of the bug. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Removing bundled LilyPond

2008-09-24 Thread David Stocker
Thanks, Jonathan First, type the command for uninstall. It'll ask you to press enter to proceed. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo /usr/local//bin/uninstall-lilypond When I do this, I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo /usr/local//bin/uninstall-lilypond sudo: /usr/local//bin/uninstall-lilypond:

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Hmm. I changed the print driver to a ps one. That driver wasn't available when I was using the cups interface to hook up to the printer--very limited options for drivers on Mac's cups system--but once the printer was installed that way I was able to reconfigure using the regular OSX

Re: Removing bundled LilyPond

2008-09-24 Thread David Stocker
Thanks, Graham Graham Percival wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:09:25 -0700 (PDT) notesetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Install 2.11.59 via shell script and alter my system so that the command 'lilypond' points to the new installation in my home directory. Do this. It's as simply as

Re: Removing bundled LilyPond

2008-09-24 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hello. Usually it is sufficient to rename the old executable and point a symbolic link to the new one; say you installed the recent version in /home/johndoe/bin/lilypond/, and the default choice is in /usr/bin/, then you have do mv /usr/bin/lilypond /usr/bin/lilypond-2.10.33 ln

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Alexander Kobel
Jonathan Kulp wrote: Hmm. I changed the print driver to a ps one. That driver wasn't available when I was using the cups interface to hook up to the printer--very limited options for drivers on Mac's cups system--but once the printer was installed that way I was able to reconfigure using the

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Well, I've figured out my problem on Mac, anyway. I had the same printer installed twice but with different drivers (one bad) and I had chosen the wrong instance from the dropdown menu. I've deleted the bad one and now printouts look lovely from either Preview or Acrobat. :) Jon Francisco

Re: Removing bundled LilyPond

2008-09-24 Thread Joseph Wakeling
David Stocker wrote: I think the Ubuntu Studio team left out the uninstall script, probably for some good reason or another. Yes, because if something was installed by the package manager, it has to be uninstalled via the same means -- otherwise your package manager's dependency resolution

Re: Removing bundled LilyPond

2008-09-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:51:58 -0400 David Stocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By '$HOME', I assume you mean the path of my local home directory. By the way, what is my $PATH? Where do I find it and how may I alter it? (I'm still new, but learning every day) Google is your friend. This is basic

Re: Removing bundled LilyPond

2008-09-24 Thread Gilles Sadowski
By '$HOME', I assume you mean the path of my local home directory. By the way, what is my $PATH? Where do I find it and how may I alter it? HOME and PATH are so-called environment variables. You can change them in the initialization files of your shell (command-line interpreter). Which file

notehead offsets in single-staff polyphony

2008-09-24 Thread Mike Blackstock
Guitar music has a lot of this stuff: \relative c' { {g'16 d' b d} \\ {g,4} } where the G in the top part lines up with the G in the bottom and they share the same notehead; exactly as expected and wanted. However in this: \relative c' { \time 3/8 {g'8 b d} \\

Re: notehead offsets in single-staff polyphony

2008-09-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Mike, Is there something in the manual I've missed? merge-differently-dotted merge-differently-headed HTH! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: notehead offsets in single-staff polyphony

2008-09-24 Thread Mike Blackstock
Ah, I see... so it's the dotted note that makes the difference in the 2 examples. Makes sense. I guess i didn't think of looking under 'Collision Resolution'. Thanks! Incidentally Kieren are you related to Keith and/or Edward? Keith was the Chairman of the music dept. at Ottawa U when I was

Re: notehead offsets in single-staff polyphony

2008-09-24 Thread Mike Blackstock
Mike Blackstock wrote: Incidentally Kieren are you related to Keith and/or Edward? Keith was the Chairman of the music dept. at Ottawa U when I was there. Well if you are my apologies - it's 'Ernest' not 'Edward' of course. M. ___

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Daniel Hulme
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 07:48:32AM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: I have only a couple of non-free apps on my Ubuntu machines, and Acrobat Reader is one of them because of this problem. :( As someone else suggested, try kpdf, or use xpdf, which is what I use. xpdf is not really a modern GUI

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/9/24 Daniel Hulme [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Usually for printing I just give the PDF to lp, which is the command-line client for CUPS. (Ubuntu uses CUPS by default, I believe.) I've never had any problems. Good idea, one always trends to print from the same app he is viewing the document on, but

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Johan Vromans
Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please note that this has nothing to do with actual printing, Evince shows this problem in preview too. Yes, indeed. I'll pass you an URL of the bug. Thanks! -- Johan Chord is alive! http://chordii.sourceforge.net

Re: choral sample

2008-09-24 Thread Patrick Horgan
Laura Harvey wrote: Hi - I just downloaded lilypond recently, and am interested in trying out a choral piece. I'm confused about the set-up, though, and none of the samples that you have on your documentation are specifically for choral works. Do you have one handy with one or 2 choral parts

Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Johan Vromans
Daniel Hulme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As someone else suggested, try kpdf, or use xpdf, which is what I use. xpdf is not really a modern GUI application, but I always use it from the command-line anyway. I use gv, which is ancient but bloody fast. And yes, printing from the command line

Re: style sheet: dynamic {espr, dolce, legato}

2008-09-24 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 23. September 2008 schrieb Mark Polesky: - Original Message From: Graham Percival address.hidden Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:12:56 AM I did my horizontal placement can be done with #:translate. What snippet are

Re: Removing bundled LilyPond

2008-09-24 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2008 schrieb Alexander Kobel: On the other hand, I'm not absolutely sure whether lilypond requires additional paths for, say, scheme scripts or other input files to be set; No, the --relocate command-line option passed

Re: Removing bundled LilyPond

2008-09-24 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2008 schrieb David Stocker: I think the Ubuntu Studio team left out the uninstall script, probably for some good reason or another. Yes, since you are using a packaged version, uninstallation should also not be done

Re: style sheet: dynamic {espr, dolce, legato}

2008-09-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, The one tricky thing is the horizontal placement: for things like mf dolce, I wanted the mf aligned with the notehead. For something like sub p, should the p be aligned with the notehead, or should the sub be aligned? The above-mentioned snippet argues that the dynamic should be

Re: notehead offsets in single-staff polyphony

2008-09-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Mike, Incidentally Kieren are you related to Keith and/or Edward? Keith was the Chairman of the music dept. at Ottawa U when I was there. Well if you are my apologies - it's 'Ernest' not 'Edward' of course. I believe I saw both of them in a genealogy report years ago… but it's a

Re: Removing bundled LilyPond

2008-09-24 Thread David Stocker
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2008 schrieb notesetter: I'd like to remove LilyPond 2.10.33, which came bundled with Ubuntu Studio 8.04 and then install 2.11.59. I ran the install shell script and 2.11.59 installed in my

Re: -dpreview without headers

2008-09-24 Thread Roman Stawski
When running lilypond with the switches -dpreview -dno-print-pages is there any way to stop the page headers printing from the command line, so that I just get the first line of music? OK, -dhelp lists the solution. -dpreview -dno-print-pages -dno-include-book-title-preview

Ubuntu install of Lilypond

2008-09-24 Thread George_
Hi guys (again...) I tried to fix the augmentation-dots-on-lines problem by upgrading lilypond, a la http://www.archivum.info/lilypond-user@gnu.org/2008-08/msg00725.html. I uninstalled Lilypond ok, but when I go to execute the .sh script and type in sudo sh lilypond-2.11.59-1.linux-x86.sh, the